Vince Staples thread

yes alfred, just for an hour.

wildheart is def also gunning for the #1 spot tbf

it's been an incredible year

Wow. Miguel and Vince Staples arrive in one day. But yeah, this is great - almost too deep to take in. I like it that he's defined his musical aesthetic so clearly that this isn't a double album grab bag of stuff. It's just one dope track after another where I'm mesmerized by his voice. A little like when I first heard Nas.

so this is a good album

"norf norf" is so fucking great

i'll have to stop listening to this to hear Miguel, not the other way around #priorities

if this season of true detective was in compton, "dopeman" would be a perfect theme song, so quietly menacing. it's sort of an interstitial more than a full fledged song but I love it

this is soooooooooo good

It is but too long imo

I haven't even listened to the second disc yet

This could be forever, baby
This could be forever, baby
This could be forever, baby
This could be forever, maybe
Do you like the sunshine, do you like the snow?
Do you wanna talk about it, or be alone?
I think that you should know that, this could be forever, baby

dragged my sick self out of the house to buy a copy of this & it was sold out, which makes me happy tbh. good for vince.

this album is pretty special huh

I love it now.

this album is pretty special huh

― lex pretend, Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yep

also really amazing sounding - the enormous bass!

was just gonna talk about the bass. I think this album was made just strictly for my taste

also really amazing sounding - the enormous bass!

the "birds & bees" beat sounds like mezzanine-era massive attack

Woah that is spot on

that and all the featuring birds being of the topley variety

ha -- I was going to say Angels with Dirty Faces

i felt like there was a lot of tricky about vince himself, haven't worked out whether it was just the above sonic associations making me think so

too early in the romance to say but this probably an AOTY contender for me.

Tim!

Alfred?

performing on Jimmy Kimmel tonight

ha -- no, just surprised.

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idk I have pretty corny taste in rap and if you plotted a through line of my favourite rap albums of the last ten years or so it would lead straight to this.

really loving this, love all the call and response female vox in this

also FUCK YOU VINCE for this little deep thought in "Surf"

More black kids killed from a pill than the FEDs in the projects
In the planned parenthood playin' God with ya mom's check, you ain't even been to prom yet
Sixteen, heard you wanna be a star girl
What he charge for the dream that you bought girl

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The angle of "Can you believe this 22-year-old doesn't know about NWA or Public Enemy!?!?" in this article was pretty annoying:
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/stapless-center-getting-to-the-heart-of-things-with-the-summertime-06-rapper/

the 50 Cent was third grade thing was more o_O the terror of time & all its sickening crime for me, yikes

i want to believe that vince is more talking about the literal fact that underage pregnancies happen rather than passing judgment on how they're dealt with but at the same time the heavy christian influence among a lot of rappers does lead to some version of prolife opinions in several instances (theres an infamous ghostface lyric to this effect on pretty toney, iirc, for example)

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damn this is kind of astonishing on contact

idk, kinda finding the whole mise en scene a bit prissy and ultimately detrimental for a rap alb tbh (tim trying to head this off at the pass i assume)

i mean if it was like john talabot ft fka twigs & yelawolf i'd probably bust two gunshots but

not remotely in the mood for this atmos right now in fairness tho, maybe when my heart is full of murder like idk ilx eoy time it'll click a treat

idk i've found myself steadily entranced by this record, always starting it like "i mean this is good but idk if i'm into this into this" and by the halfway point i'm like "oh hell yeah"

1-2 of "jump off the roof" and "señorita" helps

"Senorita" is like the worst song on the album imo, the random 2 Future bars looped as a hook sound awkward as hell

is this coming out on vinyl or am i gonnna have to find a Best Buy and buy the CD

yeah "Senorita" is my least favorite thing.

idk it's fun y'all

i mean if it was like john talabot ft fka twigs & yelawolf i'd probably bust two gunshots but

― r|t|c, Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

hahaha

i want to believe that vince is more talking about the literal fact that underage pregnancies happen rather than passing judgment on how they're dealt with but at the same time the heavy christian influence among a lot of rappers does lead to some version of prolife opinions in several instances (theres an infamous ghostface lyric to this effect on pretty toney, iirc, for example)

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― slothroprhymes, Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:13 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that pro-life stance isn't uncommon in hip hop but it bothers the shit out of me

i think your interpretation is um...well let me just caution don't throw your back out doing those gymnastics

overall though this album is great! there's probably at least 1 completely deplorable line on every rap album i've ever loved, or a lot more, i don't mean to characterize vince as particularly bad, i dig his general vibe

that said I'm not sure if I like it more than Warm Brew & I would encourage anyone outside the goon thread to bump that album at least once

Vince is a pissy guy who says incendiary things, so that makes his pro-life lines a little easier to reconcile, since they fit his M.O. of lashing out at everybody. Not excusing them, of course, but it's less jarring to me than when somebody like Common drops judgey lines like that into their songs as if they're intended as gospel

i mean i dunno that's basically just deciding a reason to give him a pass and not commmon

but wrt to common it's not necessarily jarring to me or unexpected because i feel like anti-feminism and pro-life stuff has always been a part of conscious rap because of 5 percenter stuff which is one of the cores of conscious rap wrt like Lord "trill o'reilly" Jamar

Haven't heard this yet, so no judgement (and never expect worthwhile social commentary from anybody in any medium, the more pleasantly to be surprised), but not into anti-contraception as "pro-life," nor "conscious" incl. anti-feminism, tho as former music retailer know how bullshit most tags are as anything more than convenience.

Vince is a pissy guy who says incendiary things, so that makes his pro-life lines a little easier to reconcile, since they fit his M.O. of lashing out at everybody. Not excusing them, of course, but it's less jarring to me than when somebody like Common drops judgey lines like that into their songs as if they're intended as gospel

― Evan R, Thursday, July 2, 2015 3:41 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah god forbid a substantial, provocative and wide ranging album contain a line or two that doesn't perfectly align with our worldviews, let's definitely lose our shit about it

I said I like the album, it's a great album how is that losing my shit

Unless that was meant as a board description

Also Dow he's talking about the morning after pill not birth control, but actually being anti contraception is worse actually

Actually, the 2016 Prima Donna ep is the most concentrated thing he's ever released, and the Andre 3000 appearance is his best in god knows how many years.

why is everyone pretending that big fish theory was bad

I like Big Fish Theory — it’s my son’s favorite Vince Staples album, it has a following. The new one sounded good when he put it on in the car the other day, I haven’t yet given it a full listen. I agree overall that Summertime 06 is his best, I put that on the other week and even the tracks I’d forgotten were good.

the new one is fine and is a fair improvement from the last two which were very slight, but it's not really anything to get excited about like he once was capable of

feels like the tone of each progressive release just gets mellower

new show on netflix & he drew inspiration from roy andersson -

We take a lot of inspiration in Roy Andersson, one of my favorite filmmakers. In his film “A Pigeon Sat on a Branch Reflecting on Existence,” he has this shot in this restaurant or a cafeteria, where a lot of the people are separated by the pillars and just entering and exiting a frame. Things that are happening in the distance and things that are happening closer to camera, everything matters in the shot, especially when you stay within a wide. So I think operating within a wide sometimes allows you to bring subtle details and nuances to the shot, and the disposition of the people within the bank can speak to their relationships, speak to their experience.

Thanks for reminding me - I want to check this out.

(Sadly the most excited I’ve been about Staples in a good long while)

Binged the show this weekend. The easy read is Atlanta-lite. What am I missing? Been into him since Shyne Coldchain but this just didn’t land. I hope there’s another season.