Louie (Louis C.K.'s show on FX)

Are you making fun of Kirkman for your own inability to follow one tweet to another?

― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Saturday, May 30, 2015 11:17 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol follow one tweet to another ok bud

when you drip I drip we drip

fwiw concerned ppl of this thread i understand what shes saying, the question is does what shes saying make any sense, it does not

What the fuck are you talking about lagoon

is english your first language

i mean i sympathize with her shes in exactly the uncomfortable spot she spoke about wanting to avoid, is lashing out incoherantly at people who speculated on what she was saying a good or appropriate responce, no

Are you making fun of Kirkman for your own inability to follow one tweet to another?

― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Saturday, May 30, 2015 11:17 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol follow one tweet to another ok bud

she wrote: "it only brought negativity to my podcast and anonymity is a thing I do on purpose."

so your "that wld bring negativity to anonymity" joke is an inability to follow one tweet to the next

i understood what u were saying i just thought yr phrasing was funny in the context of someone not being able to read and so forth

you are weird

ur weird

let's say it is ck she's talking about and she's nervous about making it public bc it might damage her career. would that explain why she has pro-ck comments retweeted + posted all over her twitter feed?

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2a5c6ki.jpg

its prob just not him

well she's tweeted plenty of praise for Chris Rock too so

maybe its neither of them

is there a third once-married on-his-grind new-material-every-time french filmmaker wannabe at the cosby level? unless she's talking opening for woody allen jazz dates i can't think of one

maybe the french film part is a red herring

yall i'm the comedian who masturbates in front of people

to be clear, i sympathize with her - she's trying to describe a shit situation no one should have to deal with and at worst she's bad at blind iteming

yeah this is all p weird but y'know people are complicated (also fwiw her new special is really funny)

Is Louis CK really as powerful as all that? Serious question here.

i'm sure he's powerful enough that publicly accusing him would be uncomfortable. he has friends, some connections, etc. otoh he seems like the kind of guy that if an accusation ever came out he might just admit & apologize. i def don't think he's as powerful as these stories are making him out to be - most powerful man in comedy? maybe standup comedy? how about like adam sandler or seth rogan or kevin james who have huge hollywood careers? or jeff dunham, russell peters, kevin hart, or terry fator? idk.

I would say powerful mostly in the sense that his fanbase could make life a real pain in the ass for quite a while

But yeah if he ever tries to go negative on accusers about it that's the end of his rep forever

dude is such a heroic figure to his scene and considering the crap that comes with making rape accusations about celebrity, making "he's creepy and showed me his dick" accusations would seem to ask for even more hemming, hawing and scrutiny from shitbirds (not to mention everything the fedora squad would get up to). and if he did say "yeah, i was a REAL CREEP around the time of my divorce, sorry i freaked anybody out and here's an hour about it" it would be In Character and quickly forgiven as clueless game-lacking, while the accusers would be known as The Women Who Couldn't Just Let Louie's Slip-Up Slide which would probably be toxic for a comedy career. It's just a shitty situation and there's likely no world where CK would be the one getting most of the shit, even though he'd be the one at fault.

to me, louis' power is more indirect than anything. i don't think there's anything unique about louis or his power -- it's more that he happens to stand at the precipice of an industry that is tightly knit and funnels talent upward in a pretty straightforward and traditional manner. it's true that someone like sandler or rogen or rock might be more famous, but i don't think those guys are as connected to the comedy scene as louis, and "comedy" and "stand up comedy" are not really all that separate. (i.e. as recently as 2014 louis headlined a funny or die stand up tour that he was probably way too famous to be a part of http://www.oddballfest.com/talent/). practically all talent in the "comedy" world comes from the stand up comedy scene (or the improv scene, which bleed together). even someone like seth rogen, who bypassed that route in his path to megastardom, is going to inevitably end up working with plenty of writers or whatever who make names for themselves thru stand up.

so anyway, i think the reticence of people in the comedy scene to explicitly talk about louis is less about something special to louis, and more about becoming known as the type of person who will break a circle of trust. being a whistleblower is a very hard thing and it takes a brave person who is willing to put their career at risk. it's not precisely about what louis ck could personally do to a whistleblower, but what being a whistleblower might say about you to the people who control your livelihood: talent agents, casting agents, booking agents, fellow comedians, fellow writers, people who scout for comedy central shows, people who scout for snl etc etc. hollywood does not care for the moral. plenty of industries -- white collar business, government, police forces etc -- will outright shun you if you reveal yourself as someone who will not keep certain secrets, and i think people feel like comedy -- and hollywood -- is like that too. and if someone is willing to stand up and say things about someone as important and beloved as louis ck, who won't they talk about?

idk someone who didnt masturbate in front of ppl I spose

yeah i think you're underrating the love for louis ck here, j0rdan, i don't think the industry is worried he'll reveal what carcosa means, people just don't wanna hear bad stuff about people they've ass-kissed

hierarchies are indeed self-protective but you don't have to be a jenga piece in something far more sinister to be protected

Isn't Jordan saying some exec will be like "if she'll say this about Louis what might she say about me"

tbose tweets /are/ incoherent. "bring negativity to my podcast"? sounds like she basically passive-aggressively outed the man who all but sexually assaulted her, but is upset that someone took the bait. mixed in there is her genuine surprise that something she might have thought was not "public" in the same way as say twitter has been harvested for a very public purpose. everything you do on the internet, esp. under your own name, is public! in any event i sympathize with her. if she didn't want to name him (even though she all but did) i'm not sure it's really all that necessary or responsible for either jordan to do so. w/o a victim willing to go on the record i'm not sure what purpose their posts serve. but this is not my "world" so i dunno.

I like Jen Kirkman but she sometimes seems to think what she says in her podcast is magically limited to being heard just by her fans.

Isn't Jordan saying some exec will be like "if she'll say this about Louis what might she say about me"

yes, and admittedly i kind of overstated it. my point is that creepy uncles don't get away with shit because the rest of the family hates snitches or is necessarily made of creepers too. often they just don't want to look horrible by association and find it easier to pretend nothing creepy is happening. if dane cook or carrot top wiggled his dick at a hip female comedy duo, i think they'd be far more likely to publicly call him out, as fewer people of note like them anyway.

this is the dark side of being 'cool', no? Ppl are afraid to say bad stuff about you even when it's the truth?

Good to know high school rules apply to the world of comedy

Good to know h

Good to know high school rules apply to the world of comedy

CK and Maron both seem like guys who are figuring out their dark shit as a way of figuring out the dark shit of most of the white American dudes of their age. They're a bit too old to have gotten Free to Be...You and Me and Sesame Street in their early education. They both have pre-breakout standup representing the mindset of generally decent guys whose imagination has been a bit too shaped by porn. They've tried not to be shitty while letting their appetite run their actions, and they've seen a lot of comedian peers self-destruct in a dozen ways, and all of that awareness is front and center in their acts, their interviews, and their TV work.

I'm not saying it's right, just that this is what's going on. Lotsa ppl's moral compass seems permanently set at high school so it's not that surprising?

Garfunkel and Oates are like "hey we never signed up to help Louis CK figure out his dark shit all over us, do that in the privacy of your own home, Louis CK"

Oh yeah, if there's bad actions to come to the surface it's fair that they do - just saying that I imagine these guys know it could happen. Unlike Cosby, it probably keeps them up at night.

Also, unlike Cosby, Louis CK didn't drug them

How many people has Louis watched die in the show now? Double figures?

People he's watched die vs. women he's fucked

Upper Decker
Is this a thing?

'tis.

On indefinite hiatus, Curb-style. good move imo (on a few levels)

he's helping produce a series for Pamela Adlon for FX, I like the sound of that

Yeah that's got potential.

how did i not know about this

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/louis-ck-direct-star-indie-793211

Was surprised how little chatter this season generated