2008 Primaries Thread

both have claimed the mantle of edwards!

This is good for everyone.

man they both sound great

like a couple of intelligent, non-crazy, level-headed people

obviously trying to sway the ex-edwarders. edwardians?

xp

man they both sound great

like a couple of intelligent, non-crazy, level-headed people.

Yeah, I was going to say. . .

It's too bad that "crazy" wins General Elections.

lol obama straight talk express zing

i am loving this talk about coming together as democrats vs republicans

I love them both. I want a group hug.

They do both sound rational and smart. But in the General Election, you'll hear the GOP counter-argument. It will be all, "YOU ARE A TAX AND SPEND LIBERAL" this, and "YOU WANT TO WAIVE THE WHITE FLAG, MY FRIEND, AND LET THE TERRORISTS, WIN" that, and "YOU ARE A SISSY."

Interestingly, Obama is making an overt effort to position himself as the better candidate to beat McCain. Early in the primary cycle, it was the GOP candidates who were vying to be the "anti-HRC."

oh shit obama sticks it to the kodak theatre celebrities! hahahaha

The differences between them are, from what I've heard so far, razor-thin. It sounds more like they're debating Wolf Blitzer than each other.

Bravo, Sen. Obama.

great obama response on immigration

i havent seen this much consecutive sense-making on cnn like, ever

Yeah, def. a good response to a jerky question.

labor rights for immigrant workers YEAH obama!!

thank god we get these windows of sanity inbetween the fucking godawful "reporting" on these people

why is hillary throwing immigrants under the train now???

Obama is debating better than he has been. It isn't that he's miraculously changed. It must be a combination of (a) the candidates effort to cool-down the hostility, (b) the loss of Edwards, who Obama relied on to attack HRC from the left, and (c) the narrowing of the field to two, so he can squarely focus on HRC. Maybe there's more, too.

"wolf you keep up tryin to..."

^^^ yes

obama otm

this is a good debate - right before super tuesday they couldve done a lot of stupid shit but instead its policy wonk stuff

"people dont come here to drive, they come here to work"

right wing talk radio is going to be allll over this tomorrow

Obama's tone is much better tonight: Mostly referring to HRC as "Sen. Clinton," no jokey-ness, no smirks. This is his best face.

HRC is good, too.

Yes, this crop of Democratic candidates are wonky, esp. these two.

plz no more "bring _____ together" tonight.

all the lefty stuff!! its like everything good about edwards got reconstituted into non-useless candidates

3than my little sensors stood on end when she started with that answer too but she kept with it and it was a good move, saying she understood people's anger and confusion and tying it into the real problem which is exploitation

speaking of wonky, mike gravel is currently debating against no one in particular

http://ustream.tv/channel/alternative-debate

hahaha, "you kept changing your position, but that's ok, cause it's a tough issue."

what the fuck is this interstitial music

just play some dimmu borgir

oh god help us a question on "character" after the break!

xpost HA

This music! OMG! Speaking of KMFDM!

lol gravel

<3

hillary... likeable?

Am I wrong or is Obama more "on-his-game" than usual in tonight's debate?

No, he's so fucking money tonight

of what the hell, I'll switch to the "people-meter" stream just for fun

link pls

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream1

if not that then the image on the right with the red line in the middle

whoa this meter is way hillary-tilted - it goes up to 70 before she even says anything!

nice CDF shout-out from hilz

lol "tilted"

The nice thing here, I think, is that whichever candidate is selected, we'll be well-represented in the General Election. Just after Kerry won the nomination in 2004, I began thinking "Oh, no. We nominated this guy?" Not that he wasn't qualified (certainly more qualified than the incumbent), but he was just a horrible candidate.

That won't be a problem this year. Even HRC -- who I sadly think will get slaughtered unless something dramatic happens -- will make me proud.

HRC with the sly smile: "Who is it brave enough to say that Mitt Romney will be the GOP nominee?"

ROMNEY ZING LOL

ZING!

oh that's a good one oh lord

ok time to turn off the damn meter

fuck that meter

hillary had bobby kennedy's children??

so who are the people all this corny 'this is about your lives' stuff works on