HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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The last time I saw him was playing Cardinal Wolsey in Wolf Hall so it was a very small leap for my mind to make.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link

I like him in Glengarry Glenross.

Been meaning to go see him in Merchant Of Venice at The Globe too.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link

xps
Important to remember who she was threatening there and what she was trying to achieve.

I don't doubt that if she truly believed starving the city would secure the release of her grandkids she'd do it but sparrow dude correctly points out why that would probably backfire.

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

re: Pryce, clearly y'all need to see Listen Up Philip pronto

fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

my fave jonathan pryce performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010jO4_Bs9k

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

Tommen should just bring in the Mountain to crush everyone's heads

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

he dead

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

I was hoping Cersei was going to get thrown into the same cell as Margaery. Obviously not. It'll be interesting to see if one tries to join forces with the other at some point.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

A moribund Gregor Clegane is being experimented on by Qyburn at his laboratory in the dungeons below the Red Keep.[23] Queen Cersei visits Qyburn and asks him about the state of his work, while glancing at Gregor's covered body, and Qyburn assures her it is going very well, though there is still a way to go. Then, Gregor suddenly spasms, and Qyburn gently shushes him and tells him to go easy.
xp

mizzell, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link

same difference

tsrobodo, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:15 (eight years ago) link

looking forward to lady gregor clegane

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

Going to be a bit of a u-turn given she was previously talking about starving everyone in King's Landing

She was really pissed off when she said that, don't think she ever meant to go through with it.

― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:03 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree she was pissed off, which to me means she REALLY meant to go through with it.

― DJP, Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was the second time she's talked about it in two episodes, I'm pretty sure she'd go ahead with it, given she, y'know, KILLED THE KING.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Her real enemy is Cersei. With her gone, she really has no reason to let the city starve, considering the fact that it's probably simpler to take control of Tommen and use whatever power he has left to try to get her grand kids freed. I don't really know how she's going to convince the sparrows to free Margery and her brother, but getting the king on her side seems like an obvious first step.

silverfish, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

think littlefinger will have the witness held captive - as per others upthread

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

I didn't make the connection it was Jonathan Pryce playing the high sparrow(sp?) - haven't seen him in anything since Brazil.

Surely you've seen Pirates of the Caribbean? Or, um, Jumpin' Jack Flash.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

Gilliam's used him a bunch he's great

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link

Did anyone say Ronin yet

polyphonic, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6gtDqjz0GE

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

He was the main bad guy in Tomorrow Never Dies!

Hydroelectric New Deal Demiurge (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

Most of that scene makes sense eventually if you give it enough thought but then you ask yourself why you're working so hard to justify tits on HBO.

― tsrobodo, Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:57 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I actually didn't get what was happening - the poison kicking in seemed to correspond to her flashing her downstairs to Bronn (or at least the camera was heading that way, and cut to Bronn checking it out).

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Thursday, 28 May 2015 11:51 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I think we were supposed to infer that he was intoxicated by her boobies at first, before the poison reveal.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 28 May 2015 11:55 (eight years ago) link

i felt this show hasn't been objectifying enough so far so it was good that we had a shot from the actual perspective of the guy checking out boobies for some reason

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 May 2015 12:42 (eight years ago) link

when Bronn started swooning, the first thing that popped into my head was "she must have thighs like what, what, what"

DJP, Thursday, 28 May 2015 13:09 (eight years ago) link

I assumed / hoped that it was some kind of poison that only kicked in when men became aroused. That would be awesome fun.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 28 May 2015 13:11 (eight years ago) link

i didn't understand that they were all in prison together, but in separate cells. but then i am thick.

p:s nerds know (dog latin), Thursday, 28 May 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link

do people generally stick prisoners who've tried to kill each other together in the same cell?

DJP, Thursday, 28 May 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link

no, they generally stick them in two contiguous cells, 10 feet away from each other

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 May 2015 13:44 (eight years ago) link

I thought it was pretty obvious that she was purposely getting the poison to take effect quicker by increasing his blood flow. That didn't occur to anyone else here? Or am I wrong in the "that's not how bodies work, dude" category?

Evan, Thursday, 28 May 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link

thinking about it cersei's plan was really staggeringly dumb, take our your enemies by encouraging a moral crusade when one of the moral crusaders knows a bunch of your terrible secrets?

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 28 May 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

It would have been really clever for them to have revealed that Lancel was part of the faith militant/sparrow in that scene to both Cercei and the audience. It would have been a more shocking scene and have made more sense for Cersei to have gone through with it, since she wouldn't have prepared for someone she knew intimately to be a part of it.

Evan, Thursday, 28 May 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

yeah but lancel looks so different now, 90% of watchers would be all WTF?

is it the same actor, even?

p:s nerds know (dog latin), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

cersei figured she could influence him with wealth and power like everyone else she interacts with.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

him being the high pigeon

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

It would have been really clever for them to have revealed that Lancel was part of the faith militant/sparrow in that scene to both Cercei and the audience. It would have been a more shocking scene and have made more sense for Cersei to have gone through with it, since she wouldn't have prepared for someone she knew intimately to be a part of it.

― Evan, Thursday, May 28, 2015 9:54 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

have him reintroduced as a fanatic, in a scene where he says some really off-putting philosophical stuff that makes cercei question herself. basically the scene he was in earlier this season, but without the sparrow reveal.

then BOOM haha backstabbing cousin got you thrown in jail who would've guessed

nose, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

no the way it was done is better it demonstrates that cercei is bad at scheming and what happens to ppl who are bad at scheming

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

Yeah but it makes her seem a little TOO bad at scheming. Like, it has basically established her as a complete idiot thanks to the way it was handled.

Evan, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

She kind of is.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I think now that she's left without family to support her, her schemes are faltering and guard is falling.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

her problem is more that shes immature vindictive and and impulsive than stupid imo

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

i mean all of those may add up to a functional stupidity when it comes to governance but she has shown insight in other areas

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link

she is pretty good at tactics and vv bad at strategy

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

also having cancel show up all dun dun DUH would have been terrible. much better to set it up early, then let us forget, then mind us what was in front of our noses all along.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

goddamn autocorrect LANCEL

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

her alcoholism has m/l eroded the cunning she once possessed in spades, idk its not that shocking

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

xps

Yeah I was thinking along the same lines as Evan especially given how she kept asking how his arm was. He wouldn't have believed her and taken the antidote if he wasn't already feeling the symptoms.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

(xps evan)

rogermex and lagoon otm

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

what is up with the new Thronecast (UK) inside-baseball discussion thing? It used to be okay and now it's massively embarrassing.

p:s nerds know (dog latin), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

All I'm saying is that it would be plenty foolish of her to give power to the faith militant given her history alone, but to have her do that when she knows Lancel is a key guy there and they have a direct history of incest themselves is maybe just a tad too idiotic for her? Plus revealing Lancel is a sparrow in that scene would have been an exhilarating development and the entire "will this plan backfire for her?" question would have been more up in the air than completely obvious for viewers.

Evan, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

yes definitely it was obvious the plan wld backfire the whole time which was the point, it may have not come with as stunning of a reveal but it was a better story

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link

it would be some tv 101 scandal shit imo to do it like that

the point is not that its obvious to us, because yeah it more or less is - the point is how not obvious it is to her. because she's built up so much arrogance out of anger and a legacy of familial strife, she can never imagine these things affecting her until they do even with the writing on the wall

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

as for completely obvious tho u cn read the thread and see if ppl thought so lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link


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