Spotify - anyone heard of it?

Evidently the new windows version of spotify has playlist searching back? But not for local files. Mac version doesn't seem to have been updated yet.

Controlling my phone with the PC interface seems to work really well now. Which is great because it saves me from needing to buy a DAC for my laptop.

Not being able to resize columns now is a reeeeeeal bummer

New mac version this morning has playlist filtering. Still totally incapable of handling my local music library though.

i'm trying to find the old spotify version from before the awful March upgrade. anybody have a link?

the thread linked above that had the old version has been deleted.

the new version is still. completely. unusable.

Aw shit, I had the exe saved on my desktop until just a couple days ago. I could've sent it to you.

crut, this still seems to have working dls for PC and Mac
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4430815

wow local file management on spotify is hot garbage- either it doesn't recognize or play tracks at all, or it will produce three entries for a single track. sort of ridiculous

or it will add only some tracks from an album despite all the .wavs/.mp3s whatever being in the same folder... ostensibly they should all appear in the local files list but it just never happens. even when spotify is open I right click on a track and specifically select 'open with spotify' and they still don't play

So spotify will have until September 30th to get their shit together. I've never been so happy to use iTunes again.

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really? hard for me to imagine apple improving on spotify at this point

The fact that Apple Music is going to be nested inside the iTunes Store is almost certainly a dealbreaker for me unless they totally revamp that horribly bulky and slow piece of shit software.

^this.

Not having to use the spotify app is improving on spotify. As long as I can get most of what I listened to on spotify, I can't thing of a reason not to switch.

But I've never had issues with iTunes. In fact, I quite like it.

The fact that Apple Music is going to be nested inside the iTunes Store is almost certainly a dealbreaker for me

Where are you reading that? Everything I'm seeing suggests that this is an entirely new app -- if anything it sounds like it might have a store nested within it, not the other way around?

I'm mostly curious to know if it's going to support Sonos . . . that's my dealbreaker.

Ooops, just saw Sonos announced that Apple Music won't be available. I'm out.

So with Spotify I still can't even filter/search my local files since the desktop downgrade. It's been months and it's absurd.

As I understand it, with Apple Music I'll be able to have all of my local tracks in the cloud along with access to all of Apple Music's catalog. This is the killer aspect for me, to be able to listen to all of my music and all of a streaming catalog on the go - and to be able to properly see them on my laptop.

Is there something I'm missing about the other services that is equivalent?

From http://www.apple.com/music/

http://i.imgur.com/1uKDhew.png

I suspect (it's just a guess) that the iTunes software works loads better on a Mac than on a PC. Or not. I mean, it must work well enough for it to have hung around as long as it has, but I absolutely hate it (on a PC).

Oh, that doesn't look promising. ITunes does in fact work fine on my Mac, but the interface has gotten way too clumsy as the software has taken on new roles.

Ooops, just saw Sonos announced that Apple Music won't be available. I'm out.

“Sonos will not have Apple Music on it at launch but we fully expect to support them when they’re ready to focus on the home listening experience. Right now they’re fully focused on mobile .”

I suspect (it's just a guess) that the iTunes software works loads better on a Mac than on a PC. Or not. I mean, it must work well enough for it to have hung around as long as it has, but I absolutely hate it (on a PC)

Yeah I have a Mac and never quite understood the hatred this program gets (I can understand a lot of complains aimed at Apple's way of doing things in general though) until a friend who's on a PC tried to explain to me how iTunes worked on his computer. It seemed like a totally different program, and one that was very shitty by the sounds of it. That was a few years ago so maybe iTunes PC has gotten better but either way if it really functioned like he told me I understand people hating it. Weird that they would make something that shitty.

iTunes is immensely better on a mac.

Why is Apple even bothering to put this on iTunes? Surely there's more value in signing a few exclusive mega-deals, watching as music starts disappearing from Spotify, and using it to drive sales of iPhones?

Hope that doesn't happen

They're saying it won't be available "at launch"

Yeah, but I read the rest of their statement -- "we fully expect to support them when they’re ready to focus on the home listening experience" -- as a diplomatic way of saying don't hold your breath. People have been asking Apple to make iTunes Radio available through Sonos for two years. Since Beats Music was already available through Sonos I thought it was a possibility for the rebranded service, but if they're withdrawing support now I suspect they don't plan to reintroduce it. The thing with Sonos is that you access all of your audio -- on-demand streaming, radio, podcasts, local music, etc. -- through the Sonos app (whether desktop or mobile), and Apple generally seems wary of giving up that control over the user experience.

As I understand it, with Apple Music I'll be able to have all of my local tracks in the cloud along with access to all of Apple Music's catalog. This is the killer aspect for me, to be able to listen to all of my music and all of a streaming catalog on the go - and to be able to properly see them on my laptop.

Is there something I'm missing about the other services that is equivalent?

I've been using Google Play Music to do this for years

iTunes on a PC is bad like spotify on anything. That bad.

xpost, ok. I've been spotify for so long that I haven't really looked at anything else.

iTunes sucks on a mac too. So much.

How?

It cannot recognize compilations correctly (at least sometimes), it seems determined to get rid of list view, it's larded up with videos and movies, the iPhone UI tool is a joke, wireless syncing works only sporadically.

Exactly how is itunes on a PC different from on Mac?

i still hate iTunes on my mac

itunes on a pc sounds like pc music on a mac

It cannot recognize compilations correctly (at least sometimes), it seems determined to get rid of list view, it's larded up with videos and movies, the iPhone UI tool is a joke, wireless syncing works only sporadically.

― schwantz, Tuesday, June 9, 2015 1:55 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If it isn't recognizing compilations, edit the metadata to indicate it is comp. I find that a lot of people's problems with iTunes ultimately boil down to a poorly maintained library.

In regards to list view, yes that is annoying, but if it was spotify, they would remove it completely and never give it back instead of just burying it in the options.

Agree with the wireless syncing though.

It loads slow and sucks up a lot of CPU juice. If you're opening iTunes, it's about the only thing you'd better be doing on your PC until you close it.

x-post

In this case, the metadata says comp, but it stubbornly refuses to group them together in Album view.

TBF, I did the downgrade thing on Spotify, so it's not like I love their latest app. I'm just skeptical when people think Apple's going to jump into a space where it doesn't have a good track record (cloud anything) and somehow fix all of the problems that Spotify has been working on for 5 years.

I'm hopeful that Apple's service will light a fire under Spotify to work on features that I want, though!

I've found that issues with compilation sorting in iTunes is often due to the "album artist" metadata. That needs to be blank for the comp to be sorted with the others at the end of the list, but it often has "various" or the name of the artist who put the comp together in there. Clear out that entry and you should be ok.

Made the Album Artist a space, and that worked! Thanks!

iTunes wins! Death to Spotify!

if you're just getting out of streaming entirely, there are probably several media players that are significantly less shitty than itunes

At this point, iTunes is for mixtapes and my own music only.

Nobody using Plex? Since they updated their music capabilities a couple months ago it's been fantastic for me. It now basically works like Google Music/iTunes without all the cloud nonsense inbetween & no max nr of tracks limit.

They took away the copy and paste feature to create playlists.

That is insane.

Ha, oh wait.

I couldn't get this to work, and it looked like it wasn't working for anyone else either.

But I just pasted in the top part of the window, where the playlist name is, instead of down in the lower part, where the song titles appear (and where I used to always paste).

Anyway. Howya doin'?