Spotify - anyone heard of it?

i think the reason that's available readily in full on youtube is because it has the fig leaf of audiosurf, so that's why i linked
tbf, i think the "procedurally generated" elements of audiosurf were always very iffy; you can always adjust it to make everything easier or harder.

The point of matching your running pace isn't music discovery, it's enjoying your run.

lol good point

i keep forgetting not everyone is a music nerd

Even music nerds are allowed to just enjoy a run without trying to collect anything during it.

That said, I've discovered quite a bit of music while working on this feature. But whereas "discovery" in other contexts often means "Oh, I am now going to go listen to all this artist's other stuff", with running music it can also be "I will put on the 145bpm reggaeton mix for pure listening pleasure after I get done with this 170bpm run".

for me it's more "are there artists who are not demonstrably horrible people [google moby] who can make the track tilt 180 DEGREES, WHAT" more than that, which probably says I need to get out more

I'm a fast walker/"sprinter" anyway so I'm used to whatever I am listening to being quite a bit mistimed

i can't run to anything under 200bpm

there is something about the utilitarian aspect of music that all the music services are trying to latch onto right now which just entirely rubs me the wrong way, i.e. music to cook dinner to, music to change a baby to, music to do burpees to, etc. i probably should relax and not care. that's how most people have treated music ever since the beginnings of radio.

what rubs me the wrong way is the homogeneity of it...music is functional and this should totally be celebrated but there's this almost authoritarian "THIS is running music, THAT is chilling-out music" about it all. dunno how many of you saw that repulsive "life milestones" infographic going round yesterday - the ages at which Everyone Is Meant to have their first kiss, rent with friends, rent with a partner, buy their first house, become a middle manager - total rat race stuff - but the spotify announcement seemed in much the same line. do this designated activity in this designated way to this designated music and then you'll be a decent member of middle-class western society.

(fwiw, several years ago i did a big project on running music, and interviewed several djs and producers for it, and i was really surprised at the range of answers and justifications i got - no, running music doesn't have to be at a particular bpm, everyone does it differently!)

(fwiw, as a music nerd and a runner, i don't listen to music at all when i run, because that's when i clear my head and get away from music that i spent most of my non-running life listening to) (also i get tangled up in my own headphones)

also i am currently using spotify for once and if you're going to match anything up can you at least advertise music that has some vague resemblance to what i'm listening to? this caterwauling rock dude in the middle of my afropop, fuck off :(

please link that infograph I didn't see it

yeah, running is actually my favorite time to listen to classical music! it's one of the few times i'm able to actually listen in detail and thoroughly get into it

also podcasts. maybe spotify could match the pace of my footfalls with appropriate spoken subject material.

There's something very Compilation Zeitgeist about those playlists, like they're designed to appeal to people who are a bit insecure about picking the appropriate social context for music. There's one called 'Hipster House Party' that surely no real hipster would touch with a bargepole.

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i listen to lots of songs while i jog that i would never listen to otherwise but it don't mean my tastes change completely

Right, so the "personal" running mode tries to pick songs that are both good for running to the beat, and either songs you've played a lot, or things we think are in the same vein as things you've played a lot. Nobody is trying to make you run to any particular music you don't like.

But the running app is very definitely for running to a beat. Lots of people run to music or podcasts or whatever, and there doesn't need to be any special mode for that. But if you want to run to the beat, it has been next to impossible historically, because you had no good way to even find a critical mass of songs at a given tempo to begin with, never mind how much you like them or how good they are for running.

Def in a Stereo Mood right now.

Never say that Spotify won't listen to user complaints, the latest mobile update fixed the issue with connecting to BMW ConnectedDrive.

so is the running thing live yet or....? would like to try it.

It's rolling out gradually, but you ought to have it soon.

NYT article yesterday about the Sony leak, no new information that I could see

Evidently the new windows version of spotify has playlist searching back? But not for local files. Mac version doesn't seem to have been updated yet.

Controlling my phone with the PC interface seems to work really well now. Which is great because it saves me from needing to buy a DAC for my laptop.

Not being able to resize columns now is a reeeeeeal bummer

New mac version this morning has playlist filtering. Still totally incapable of handling my local music library though.

i'm trying to find the old spotify version from before the awful March upgrade. anybody have a link?

the thread linked above that had the old version has been deleted.

the new version is still. completely. unusable.

Aw shit, I had the exe saved on my desktop until just a couple days ago. I could've sent it to you.

crut, this still seems to have working dls for PC and Mac
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4430815

wow local file management on spotify is hot garbage- either it doesn't recognize or play tracks at all, or it will produce three entries for a single track. sort of ridiculous

or it will add only some tracks from an album despite all the .wavs/.mp3s whatever being in the same folder... ostensibly they should all appear in the local files list but it just never happens. even when spotify is open I right click on a track and specifically select 'open with spotify' and they still don't play

So spotify will have until September 30th to get their shit together. I've never been so happy to use iTunes again.

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really? hard for me to imagine apple improving on spotify at this point

The fact that Apple Music is going to be nested inside the iTunes Store is almost certainly a dealbreaker for me unless they totally revamp that horribly bulky and slow piece of shit software.

^this.

Not having to use the spotify app is improving on spotify. As long as I can get most of what I listened to on spotify, I can't thing of a reason not to switch.

But I've never had issues with iTunes. In fact, I quite like it.

The fact that Apple Music is going to be nested inside the iTunes Store is almost certainly a dealbreaker for me

Where are you reading that? Everything I'm seeing suggests that this is an entirely new app -- if anything it sounds like it might have a store nested within it, not the other way around?

I'm mostly curious to know if it's going to support Sonos . . . that's my dealbreaker.

Ooops, just saw Sonos announced that Apple Music won't be available. I'm out.

So with Spotify I still can't even filter/search my local files since the desktop downgrade. It's been months and it's absurd.

As I understand it, with Apple Music I'll be able to have all of my local tracks in the cloud along with access to all of Apple Music's catalog. This is the killer aspect for me, to be able to listen to all of my music and all of a streaming catalog on the go - and to be able to properly see them on my laptop.

Is there something I'm missing about the other services that is equivalent?

From http://www.apple.com/music/

http://i.imgur.com/1uKDhew.png

I suspect (it's just a guess) that the iTunes software works loads better on a Mac than on a PC. Or not. I mean, it must work well enough for it to have hung around as long as it has, but I absolutely hate it (on a PC).

Oh, that doesn't look promising. ITunes does in fact work fine on my Mac, but the interface has gotten way too clumsy as the software has taken on new roles.

Ooops, just saw Sonos announced that Apple Music won't be available. I'm out.

“Sonos will not have Apple Music on it at launch but we fully expect to support them when they’re ready to focus on the home listening experience. Right now they’re fully focused on mobile .”

I suspect (it's just a guess) that the iTunes software works loads better on a Mac than on a PC. Or not. I mean, it must work well enough for it to have hung around as long as it has, but I absolutely hate it (on a PC)

Yeah I have a Mac and never quite understood the hatred this program gets (I can understand a lot of complains aimed at Apple's way of doing things in general though) until a friend who's on a PC tried to explain to me how iTunes worked on his computer. It seemed like a totally different program, and one that was very shitty by the sounds of it. That was a few years ago so maybe iTunes PC has gotten better but either way if it really functioned like he told me I understand people hating it. Weird that they would make something that shitty.

iTunes is immensely better on a mac.