Louie (Louis C.K.'s show on FX)

j0rdan, if it turned out that this definitely was not true, how would you feel about having published the article? does the name "defamer" tell me all i need to know or is that just cheeky and ironic?

he did a long bit about child molestation on SNL and then did a skit about sexually domination
--J0rdan S.

he's also done bits about giving his dead body up not for science but to be beaten or molested by people in order to vent preexisting trauma, so I guess that's evidence too if this is

...that said, I have a bad feeling that this latest allegation is true

i wasn't saying that those snl bits are supporting evidence that he's a creep -- he has plenty of other material that would let you draw that conclusion if you wanted to (i.e. he tried to rape a woman on his tv show)

i was just noting that it was funny

Jordan knows it's real bc of his psychic mutant powers but he can't tell us that or he'll fuck up his secret identity and put all of Gawker at risk. That's the only reason he needs another human to confirm it guys. Jeez.

j0rdan, if it turned out that this definitely was not true, how would you feel about having published the article? does the name "defamer" tell me all i need to know or is that just cheeky and ironic?

― Treeship, Sunday, May 17, 2015 10:12 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

i mean, if i wrote a story saying a person talked to someone and they didn't then that's a huge problem. but i trust my source on this or else we wouldn't have run it. and louis' rep had an opportunity to flat deny the story before we published it and declined to do that (and i haven't heard from them since).

as for whether it's "true" that he has a reputation for being a creep at best and a serial sexual harasser at worst, i've received dozens of emails this weekend that make me feel confident that i did not mischaracterize him/his reputation

Jordan knows it's real bc of his psychic mutant powers but he can't tell us that or he'll fuck up his secret identity and put all of Gawker at risk. That's the only reason he needs another human to confirm it guys. Jeez.

― Mordy, Sunday, May 17, 2015 10:30 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

knows what is "real"? -- we were very upfront in the story about what we do and don't know

No don't worry I totally get it now and I'm on board. It's not journalism precisely, it's journalism entertainment and Louie is just taking a bump.

well if you're not on board i dunno what i'll do

Good thing we don't have to find out high5 bro

does anyone remember laughter?

Is this show still any good? I was a flag waving fan early on, but I think I just stopped watching during that Hungarian girl arc a season ago. Show seemed to be getting weaker and weaker as it went on.

Right after the Hungarian girl was the 90-minute movie-story with Jeremy Renner as a drug dealer, and that was a new high for the show.

that episode was awful. like every weak coming of age indie dramedy that makes the festival/cable rounds thrown in a blender.

this season has been much better than last imo

Mordy’s right, if a beloved comedian is suspected of repeatedly sexually assaulting women, the media definitely has an obligation to just let it blow over without looking into it too much. if the controversy is meant to be, it’ll come back around in a decade or so.

why doesn't the NYT attribute more stories to my anonymous cousin's fiancee? it's for the greater good it doesn't matter if it's true.

thankfully no one went around smearing bill cosby's name like this back when the accusers were afraid to come forward

lol you guys. i guess keep your fingers crossed you don't get burnt by a bad source on a big story that just needs to be told even w/out confirmation (cf RS), and that if it does happen, you aren't sued for too much.

Mordy’s right, if a beloved comedian is suspected of repeatedly sexually assaulting women, the media definitely has an obligation to just let it blow over without looking into it too much. if the controversy is meant to be, it’ll come back around in a decade or so.

― some dude, Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kind of weird/shitty how ilx went from being mildly social justicey for like half a year to now full on meninist

treeship and jjjusten full retard atm

singing a hymn to social justice & signing off "full retard": i shake my damn head at you man

lol my bad. not trying to sign the hymn just annoyed that the pendulum has swung so far back in the other direction

I have zero problems at all believing Louis is capable of this and completely understand why the women who've been on the other end of it might not want to put a name to these stories. The Rolling Stone situation poisoned a lot of things, but there's almost always truth behind open secrets like this.

yes, def. still don't know if it's responsible to publish this with only anonymous tips.

*secondhand tips, sorry

Jordan are you seriously citing routines from Louis CK’s standup and plots from his TV show as corroborating evidence? or are you joking?

if the former, it would be very hard to trust your intelligence and judgment about anything, including the credibility (or lack thereof) of the anonymous accusations you’ve now published online.

if may very well be that Louis CK is a lech and a harrasser, but it won’t be because he writes about those things.

good riddance to the whole strain of "journalism" you represent. i hope you are well paid, at least.

I think what everyone's trying to say is that actually, it's abou

loool

When I was a kid, flashing people your dick was called "acing", as in "Paul aced Stacy on the way home from school."

Something so weird about this way of doing a piece
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SDZ
I heard about this from a friend who lives in la, does stand up, and writes for grantland about two years ago. He was explaining why he couldn't watch the show anymore

Jordan Sargent
Wanna email me?

SDZ
I don't really have any information beyond what I shared.

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St. Elsewhere Fan #1
I’m a comedian, and this is a pretty well-known thing.

jordansargent
Wanna email me?

St. Elsewhere Fan #1
Don’t think so, thanks.

hey guys, whoa, watch out. you know that if you oppose gawker it means you are supporting men's rights hate groups?

that's how it works. there are just two positions.

jordansargent
Wanna email me?

St. Elsewhere Fan #1
Don’t think so, thanks.

I'm sure you're just abiding by Gawker's sub-tabloid rules in these instances Jordan, but man is it creepy/disgusting. Either you've got a substantive story or you haven't. This makes it look like you're hell bent on bringing down CK but don't have enough facts at hand to pull it off.

cannot believe Jordan is reaching out to people voluntarily providing free, anonymous tips to the website he works, what a slimeball

hell bent on bringing down CK but don't have enough facts at hand to pull it off.

Wait is Jordan the same writer who wrote the piece a few months ago about how Fred Armisen likes to sleep around and how there were comments on Stereogum that he had herpes or whatever?

if you have information about whether or not a guy was the author of two pieces easily searchable on the internet, wanna email me?

Don’t think so, thanks.

anonymity guaranteed

cannot believe Jordan is reaching out to people voluntarily providing free, anonymous tips to the website he works, what a slimeball

― dadbod moghadam (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, May 18, 2015 11:38 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's reaching out for free, anonymous tips in such a way that it seems to be preventing certain people from coming forward on the issue he's covering though. Surely that's not a good thing if these allegations are true? Anyway Whiney, didn't you work with Jordan at Spin? Seems unlikely you'd remain impartial on this thing.

Jordan jerked off in front of me at SPIN, in the form of a The-Dream feature

just when I thought this thread couldn't get any more unpleasant

You guys do realise you don't know shit about who the sources actually are, right?

(I mean Treesh and crew obviously)

the tipster works a 9-to-5 job but does comedy at night

he looks good in whatever he wears

Phil is so clearly the tipster
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7c5y1v1tz1qd6v30o1_500.jpg

Alan also giving that "I am the tipster" look

Mike may actually be Phil w/ a haircut and no glasses. So I suspect that he may also be our tipster.

I used to know a lot of comics around SF, all of them were creeps, none of this particularly surprises me if it's true, call me back if he actually rapes someone like Cosby though.

Like, I was just thinking yesterday, actually, why is exposing your body to someone such a huge crime? (this was prompted by an NPR story about sex offenders). I get it if it's kids, or something, but is the world so fragile that just the site of a penis enough to destroy your serenity? Indicative of a problem, sure, but criminal? give me a break.

i mean..... the job of a reporter is to collect information. just because someone is posting in the comments section of an article does not mean they do not have worthy information. most of the time they don't, but sometimes they do. this is true even for people who don't post in comment sections. the only way to find out is by hearing what a person has to say. i don't see how it's in the interest of a reporter to turn away or not seek out information about a story they're working on. that's basically antithetical to the job, actually.