bill simmons IS bill simmons IN the book of BASKETBALL

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i did wonder if the overnights for that last gbh played a part, if it was just skipper realising 'this guy is never going to be worth the headache, the internet doesn't translate to bigger mediums, we've maximized what we're getting out of him' but it sounds like it really was just espn still being so damn sore at dan patrick. in lighter news cowherd might jump to do his own political talk radio show.

balls, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

i think they prob fired him cause they were mad abt nfl/patrick/general difficultness but his ingenious ideas falling flat had to have made it easier

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

yea i'm sure it was a conglomeration of all those things

god help us all re: cowherd

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

and for all the speculation w/ goodell i doubt simmons was really on his radar. in terms of journalists he'd like shitcanned i suspect rachel nichols is higher on that list, nevermind don van natta.

balls, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link

seems like its more an affront to the espn brass that simmons isnt being a team player

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

i sometimes wonder if you're gregg easterbrook irl

xp

― balls, Monday, May 11, 2015 12:52 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOW BLOW

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

the calculus isn't hard to figure out, if he were a team player they could ignore the financial return and if grantland were printing money he'd get license to keep being a pain in the ass

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

i admit that i am in fact gregg easterbrook

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

(not totally sure who gregg easterbrook is)

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

a distinctly atrocious espn person

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

he sounds good

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

er, former espn person

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

brookings institute fellow responsible for the most tedious football writing ever published

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:54 (eight years ago) link

and that's when i wrote in my notebook, 'thread over'

mookieproof, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link

close but this is actually me irl

http://i.imgur.com/uxIziBR.jpg

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link

lol ty, i feel like we've accomplished something here

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 May 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link

beautiful and terrible to behold

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

"trap queen" is naturally the beautiful part

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link

There was a gap in the market for middlebrow sports docs and bill was smart enough to realize that and push for the project, to find directors to give it some street cred, and to fight to keep it on the air after the initial run. Now ESPN has a product they can put on Netflix. The rest of their shows are built around the present day and have no shelf life. Plus, 30 for 30 won ESPN a Peabody and a few other awards, which are nice feathers in your cap for when people say you're the devil. So they have an middlebrow prestige show that people actually watch and from which they continue to make money, and Simmons made it happen. And every hour they air is an hour where Rick Bayless's brother isn't saying something racist.

polyphonic, Monday, 11 May 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

Does not compute, where's your bow tie man?

Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Monday, 11 May 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link

Rick Bayless's brother

lol i kiss u poly

Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Monday, 11 May 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

i'd love for simmons to go to deadspin and demand they fire whoever "albert burneko" is

k3vin k., Monday, 11 May 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link

they cant fire albert burneko... he follows me on twitter

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

hating on simmons like that is just like...bless your heart man. gotta churn out those $20 a pop columns somehow i guess

k3vin k., Monday, 11 May 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

if someone did a comprehensive simmons take down i wld be there for it but yeah deadspin been zinging him so long its hard to feel anything abt it

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

who am i joking i am there for the zings too

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

what would a simmons "takedown" even consist of that that article didn't already address? that he leans on his old schtick a little too much? ok. he's enormously successful, produces quality content (in one form or another), and seems to be a decent guy. it's not like he's whitlock. i mean i get that he's the sort of guy a nobody like "albert burneko" has to punch up at, but at least come hard if you're gonna come at him. you think simmons, or anyone who reads him, gives a shit about this dude's "I graduated from a journalism school and THIS i tell you is poor journalism!" really? get a life man. or at least find someone worthy of the takedown

k3vin k., Monday, 11 May 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

dik what a takedown wld look like but i am ready to find out

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

simmons shd open a bar and blog abt the bar imo

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

it's just laughable coming from deadspin given how their (arguably) best-known writer is a fusion of simmons and...idk the worst matt taibbi columns, not to mention if anyone thinks deadspin has a vested interest in the quality of sports writing and /that's/ why they're mocking simmons or pretty much anyone else they mock...chuckle

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

there is nothing remotely edgy or fresh about saying that simmons is repetitive/schticky/etc

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

i guess they could dredge up old casual-sexist sports guy shit that is admittedly a bad look but he hasn't been doing much of that in some time

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

examining what his schtick is what it means from a cultural standpoint how its evolved how that fits in with espn corporate culture etc cld be interesting

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link

simmons shd open a bar and blog abt the bar imo

― lag∞n, Monday, May 11, 2015 3:21 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe he should do what he (allegedly) boasted about the possibility of doing and come back to boston to do that, people would eat that shit up

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

he's enormously successful and seems like kind of a dick; what is deadspin for if not that

welp, rick reilly and his readers don't give a shit that he sucks, no point in even bringing it up

mookieproof, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link

xxp agreed, but that would involve work & thought rather than 900 words that say nothing more substantive "LOL simmdog u homer dummy" and some c&ping as is the (usual) gawkblog takedown standard

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

for me simmons is very much apiece with the common current prosumer approach of like the onion av club ppl who pretend to know things who dont know anything and see the world as primarily existing in the context of craft and narrative, which is interesting as simmons started out as a i dont know anything guy

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

Drew Magary is pretty funny though, I'll admit it

frogbs, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:32 (eight years ago) link

he's enormously successful and seems like kind of a dick; what is deadspin for if not that

i thought it was for sports-tmz shit about athletes at first and that's quite entertaining every once in a while the same way fast food is good in moderation, plus the occasional specialty-item in the form of a feature or something that's actually good, but now they have extremely transparent delusions of righteousness or morality or quality

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

yeah deadspin is for finding out that somehow chris christie spent eighty grand in taxpayer money on stadium nachos

balls, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

xp the why your team sucks series is fun i can't lie but he's just as aggressively schticky as simmons but puts a lot of (literal and figurative) airquotey bullshit around it so readers who are suckers for that shit are like "oh lol it's meta and edgy"

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

(xxp actually my bad)

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

yeah deadspin is for finding out that somehow chris christie spent eighty grand in taxpayer money on stadium nachos

― balls, Monday, May 11, 2015 3:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

intuitively we all knew this tho

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link

omg I thought you guys were making up that Chris Christie thing.

Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Monday, 11 May 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

haha nope

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:48 (eight years ago) link

to be fair, they're very good nachos
actually they are not

for me simmons is very much apiece with the common current prosumer approach of like the onion av club ppl who pretend to know things who dont know anything and see the world as primarily existing in the context of /craft/ and /narrative/, which is interesting as simmons started out as a /i dont know anything/ guy

The whole concept of a sportswriter who claims expertise on every sport is totally ridiculous and needs to be shitcanned

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

Bleacher report/TNT seems like the best fit for Simmons

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:29 (eight years ago) link

Whoa balls used shitcanned too, hive mind ilh shit

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link


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