bill simmons IS bill simmons IN the book of BASKETBALL

importance of 30 for 30 series is that it's a particular type of content and it's on Netflix

but since u asked fetty wap > bach

now is that based on a similar calculation w/ 30 for 30 and pbs sports docs ie you're not actually familiar w/ either

u cld start yr own thread and just like say what u r pretending im saying then respond with yr very cool not wildly irrelevant strange zings

all in defense of an obviously completely mediocre tv show

i guess in answer to my original question: no one really knows why ppl like it, but they do seem to like it... a lot

yes yr reading comprehension is great

there is no alternative for that kind of sports docu variety

goon what's yr take on dylie dollas vs mahler?

espn had another series before: beyond the glory lol m/l same idea

no one really knows why ppl like it

it is literally because there isn't much of an alternative, for those with any interest in sports docs, and as a result prob better regarded than it deserves as a whole. some are whatever, some have been very good. no more complex than that

i sometimes wonder if you're gregg easterbrook irl

xp

goon what's yr take on dylie dollas vs mahler?

― balls, Monday, May 11, 2015 12:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wow too obscure 4 me sry i mostly listen to buzz ballad compilation cds

xxxp narrated by Jay Mohr

if deadspin or fox sports 1 or whoever made better ones i think people would say they're better.

it is literally because there isn't much of an alternative, for those with any interest in sports docs, and as a result prob better regarded than it deserves as a whole. some are whatever, some have been very good. no more complex than that

― slothroprhymes, Monday, May 11, 2015 12:52 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk i feel like theres something else going on here, there is a simmons halo effect which radiates out from typical hyperbolic social media behavior "OMG THIS THE U SHIT IS FIRE" and then when journalists needed am accomplishment to point to in order to have balance in their simmons/espn breakup pieces it was sitting their conveniently, the only thing is it actually serves to obscure the truth which is that simmons was not that hard to fire for espn cause he was m/l a failure in his non writing roles which is the stuff he wants to do most

in that sense i guess he is valuable to espn cause i dont think anyone wldve been talking abt 30 for 30 w/o him

i did wonder if the overnights for that last gbh played a part, if it was just skipper realising 'this guy is never going to be worth the headache, the internet doesn't translate to bigger mediums, we've maximized what we're getting out of him' but it sounds like it really was just espn still being so damn sore at dan patrick. in lighter news cowherd might jump to do his own political talk radio show.

i think they prob fired him cause they were mad abt nfl/patrick/general difficultness but his ingenious ideas falling flat had to have made it easier

yea i'm sure it was a conglomeration of all those things

god help us all re: cowherd

and for all the speculation w/ goodell i doubt simmons was really on his radar. in terms of journalists he'd like shitcanned i suspect rachel nichols is higher on that list, nevermind don van natta.

seems like its more an affront to the espn brass that simmons isnt being a team player

i sometimes wonder if you're gregg easterbrook irl

xp

― balls, Monday, May 11, 2015 12:52 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOW BLOW

the calculus isn't hard to figure out, if he were a team player they could ignore the financial return and if grantland were printing money he'd get license to keep being a pain in the ass

i admit that i am in fact gregg easterbrook

(not totally sure who gregg easterbrook is)

a distinctly atrocious espn person

he sounds good

er, former espn person

brookings institute fellow responsible for the most tedious football writing ever published

and that's when i wrote in my notebook, 'thread over'

close but this is actually me irl

http://i.imgur.com/uxIziBR.jpg

http://loudgif.com/?g=http://i.imgur.com/uxIziBR.jpg&v=i_kF4zLNKio&s=5

lol ty, i feel like we've accomplished something here

beautiful and terrible to behold

"trap queen" is naturally the beautiful part

There was a gap in the market for middlebrow sports docs and bill was smart enough to realize that and push for the project, to find directors to give it some street cred, and to fight to keep it on the air after the initial run. Now ESPN has a product they can put on Netflix. The rest of their shows are built around the present day and have no shelf life. Plus, 30 for 30 won ESPN a Peabody and a few other awards, which are nice feathers in your cap for when people say you're the devil. So they have an middlebrow prestige show that people actually watch and from which they continue to make money, and Simmons made it happen. And every hour they air is an hour where Rick Bayless's brother isn't saying something racist.

Does not compute, where's your bow tie man?

Rick Bayless's brother

lol i kiss u poly

i'd love for simmons to go to deadspin and demand they fire whoever "albert burneko" is

they cant fire albert burneko... he follows me on twitter

hating on simmons like that is just like...bless your heart man. gotta churn out those $20 a pop columns somehow i guess

if someone did a comprehensive simmons take down i wld be there for it but yeah deadspin been zinging him so long its hard to feel anything abt it

who am i joking i am there for the zings too

what would a simmons "takedown" even consist of that that article didn't already address? that he leans on his old schtick a little too much? ok. he's enormously successful, produces quality content (in one form or another), and seems to be a decent guy. it's not like he's whitlock. i mean i get that he's the sort of guy a nobody like "albert burneko" has to punch up at, but at least come hard if you're gonna come at him. you think simmons, or anyone who reads him, gives a shit about this dude's "I graduated from a journalism school and THIS i tell you is poor journalism!" really? get a life man. or at least find someone worthy of the takedown

dik what a takedown wld look like but i am ready to find out

simmons shd open a bar and blog abt the bar imo

it's just laughable coming from deadspin given how their (arguably) best-known writer is a fusion of simmons and...idk the worst matt taibbi columns, not to mention if anyone thinks deadspin has a vested interest in the quality of sports writing and /that's/ why they're mocking simmons or pretty much anyone else they mock...chuckle

there is nothing remotely edgy or fresh about saying that simmons is repetitive/schticky/etc

i guess they could dredge up old casual-sexist sports guy shit that is admittedly a bad look but he hasn't been doing much of that in some time