lol if espn thinks that bill simmons out of all their personalities is the fuckin wicked witch there's...quite a lot wrong with that network
― slothroprhymes, Friday, May 8, 2015 1:29 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya it is clearly a post apocalyptic hellscape
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
was gonna say genius seems a good fit, let's see
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 May 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
man i blinked and missed rap genius exploding, i knew they broadened to like lyrics in general or w/e but i had no idea they were doing sports and shit thats kinda scary
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
trying to reach escape velocity from the seo wasteland
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
Christopher Hayes @chrislhayes 20s20 seconds ago Manhattan, NYESPN brass showing a surprising degree of confidence that @BillSimmons isn't going to proceed to tell the world every one of their secrets.
best possible outcome is a 50k word multipart tell all hit piece
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
spread over 500 genius annotations of course
this is almost certainly going to happen
― frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link
can't wait
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
i'd say deadspin would kill to host that but it won't matter b/c they'll just cut up various simmdog revelations into multiple kinja posts and shit them out at staggered intervals throughout the day for optimum #views
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
hes got to have signed a non disclosure but maybe doesnt gaf
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
will prob just talk abt it on the pod then i will have to beg ilh posters to tell me what he said
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link
burns me up how pods r where all the good gossip is
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
he doesn't have dgaf money as much as i would love for him to just destroy espn
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link
kimmel could prob float him some safety net cash on the d/l if he wants to go on an anti-ESPN blitzkrieg
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
wld be a reasonable enough calculation that its not worth it for espn to sue him, tho obvs itd hurt his future employment prospects
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
how much is dgaf money he def has way more than it wld take for me to not gaf lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
rather than a huge hit piece hell prob just be taking weird passive agressive shots at them til the end of time
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
idk $3m/year for the past five years doesn't seem like "i could definitely survive getting sued by the walt disney corp" money
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
pass/agg shots much more his style
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
the no way sna of sports personalities
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link
i have a theory that grantland will be much better now simmons has gone, sorta like when the knicks lost patrick ewing
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
http://www.si.com/more-sports/2015/05/08/bill-simmons-espn-part-ways
― balls, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
noiiiiice
― frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
the majority of the Grantland staff swear by Simmons and hold him responsible for the creative freedom and large salaries that have.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link
well yea, i mean something tells me disney/espn suits were not the impetus behind wesley morris earning 6 figures to write about movies
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:25 (eight years ago) link
(which, knowing a handful of paid movie critics, i can say is pretty high for someone w/o ebertesque syndication!)
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
yeah if i had to guess grantland is prob fd
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
then again, the SI piece makes a good point saying that they'll prob run it as long as absolutely possible just to prove that they don't need simmons's #name and #brand
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link
or close it/ruin it out of spite/disinterest
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link
feel like if its true they want a more buzzfeedy site than thats prob what theyll do
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
countdown to zach lowe getting rolled into insider
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link
yeah the speculation i've seen (and the skipper quote seems to confirm) is that in the short term at least they'll continue it out of spite to 'prove' that bill simmons had nothing to do w/ grantland's success
― balls, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link
is grantland successful tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
i mean its successful enough, it prob gets slightly more/about the same viewers as deadspin
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
if i had to guess id say deadspin is much bigger
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
and they dont have espn.com feeding them traffic either
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link
blatant kinja partisanship, smh
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:55 (eight years ago) link
I will weep for lambert and netw3rk and that's about it
― Clay, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link
lowe tho? morris?
i like andy greenwald's tv reviewing, when he gets into This Is What TV Means In Culture stuff that gets annoying though
rembert is a clown who while not an /entirely/ untalented writer steers into literally every cliche about people my age who write for the internet and seems to really enjoy doing so
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
i think most if not all of the grantland writers will bolt over the course of the next few months unless they are under contract
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 May 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link
I've complained abt Lowe a lot actually. I like him as a talker much more than I do a writer. He's just not graceful as a stylist.
― Clay, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:16 (eight years ago) link
i respect that zach will debate himself and conclude with "i'm not sure what i think" but sometimes he hems and haws a bit much
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 May 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
can't believe i got a nytimes notification on my phone about bill simmons this morning btw like since when is this boston basketball blogger that big a deal, congrats to thebostonsportsguy on his impeccable brand
― Clay, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link
i mean of boston sports people better it happen to him than shaughnessy or literally anyone from fucking WEEI
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:33 (eight years ago) link
hes the biggest sportswriter in the country, also espn gave nytimes the exclusive xp
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link
apparently they docked his pay for getting suspended last year, but they waited until 6 days before christmas to do it. classy!
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link
i dont think lowe is a good writer or anything but i have learned a lot having him explain basketball plays to me
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link
shdve done it on christmas imo
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:50 (eight years ago) link
lag∞nPosted: May 8, 2015 at 1:48:45 PMhes the biggest sportswriter in the country, also espn gave nytimes the exclusive xp
didn't know abt the latter. But idk Simmons is such a goof and to me he's eternally the gasbag making up insane trades next to Loaded Weapon metaphors on Page 2. Seems weird for him to occupy notification space usually reserved for election results or terrorism updates.
― Clay, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
i mostly skim lowe these days, i hate the structure of his columns
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link