bill simmons IS bill simmons IN the book of BASKETBALL

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the cost are like way more than his $3m a/year tho, also no one knows how many impressions/views/etc hes producing across all the platforms

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link

the cost are like way more than his $3m a/year tho

Sure. However, the costs are insignificant. Moreover, they are spread across groups.

also no one knows how many impressions/views/etc hes producing across all the platforms

They (Grantland, podcasts, and television) are very estimable.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

idk man i dont think its a coincidence that most ppl dont get simmons type money or their own fiefdoms and espn were fine with letting him walk, i mean how many of those views were simmons views and how many were espn views

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

Andrew Golis ‏@agolis 5m5 minutes ago
I'm calling it now: Bill Simmons, first Editor In Chief of Snapchat.

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link

anon espn insider reactions http://deadspin.com/espners-bill-simmons-found-out-he-was-fired-on-twitter-1703112625

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

i dont think its a coincidence that most ppl dont get simmons type money or their own fiefdoms and espn were fine with letting him walk

Sure. A lot of people are underpaid. ESPN ad revenues were $3.9 billion in 2014. Money wasn’t the issue.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link

i agree that ultimately its small change to them but there does seem to be some dynamic of them rolling out the red carpet for him and he still wldnt be a team player, and obvs from a marxist perspective everyone at espn is prob underpaid

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

but from a capitalist perspective i kinda doubt he was

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link

i agree that ultimately its small change to them but there does seem to be some dynamic of them rolling out the red carpet for him and he still wldnt be a team player, and obvs from a marxist perspective everyone at espn is prob underpaid

Fair. (And everyone is underpaid except John Skipper. He makes $5 million per year and an addition $10-15 million in stock!)

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link

but from a capitalist perspective i kinda doubt he was

Really? You think he’ll make less than $3 million in his next position?

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link

naw hell prob make the same or more from some thirsty startfucking company, still doesnt make it good business, like has katie courics contract paid off for yahoo prob not

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

(And everyone is underpaid except John Skipper. He makes $5 million per year and an addition $10-15 million in stock!)

― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, May 8, 2015 1:25 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw i am willing to do that job for only $4m a year +stock espn call me

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link

—“Ding Dong the witch is dead.” (That’s how one ESPN staffer describes the vibe in Bristol.)

lol if espn thinks that bill simmons out of all their personalities is the fuckin wicked witch there's...quite a lot wrong with that network

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link

naw hell prob make the same or more from some thirsty startfucking company, still doesnt make it good business, like has katie courics contract paid off for yahoo prob not

http://sports.genius.com/

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link

LOL @ http://sports.genius.com/ is actually a thing on the internet.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link

lmao wld be interested in rubbernecking that marriage tbh

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

lol if espn thinks that bill simmons out of all their personalities is the fuckin wicked witch there's...quite a lot wrong with that network

― slothroprhymes, Friday, May 8, 2015 1:29 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya it is clearly a post apocalyptic hellscape

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

was gonna say genius seems a good fit, let's see

man i blinked and missed rap genius exploding, i knew they broadened to like lyrics in general or w/e but i had no idea they were doing sports and shit thats kinda scary

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

trying to reach escape velocity from the seo wasteland

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 20s20 seconds ago Manhattan, NY
ESPN brass showing a surprising degree of confidence that @BillSimmons isn't going to proceed to tell the world every one of their secrets.

best possible outcome is a 50k word multipart tell all hit piece

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

spread over 500 genius annotations of course

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

this is almost certainly going to happen

frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link

can't wait

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link

i'd say deadspin would kill to host that but it won't matter b/c they'll just cut up various simmdog revelations into multiple kinja posts and shit them out at staggered intervals throughout the day for optimum #views

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link

hes got to have signed a non disclosure but maybe doesnt gaf

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link

will prob just talk abt it on the pod then i will have to beg ilh posters to tell me what he said

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link

burns me up how pods r where all the good gossip is

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link

he doesn't have dgaf money as much as i would love for him to just destroy espn

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link

kimmel could prob float him some safety net cash on the d/l if he wants to go on an anti-ESPN blitzkrieg

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

wld be a reasonable enough calculation that its not worth it for espn to sue him, tho obvs itd hurt his future employment prospects

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link

how much is dgaf money he def has way more than it wld take for me to not gaf lol

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

rather than a huge hit piece hell prob just be taking weird passive agressive shots at them til the end of time

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

idk $3m/year for the past five years doesn't seem like "i could definitely survive getting sued by the walt disney corp" money

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link

pass/agg shots much more his style

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link

the no way sna of sports personalities

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link

i have a theory that grantland will be much better now simmons has gone, sorta like when the knicks lost patrick ewing

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

i have a theory that grantland will be much better now simmons has gone, sorta like when the knicks lost patrick ewing

noiiiiice

frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link

the majority of the Grantland staff swear by Simmons and hold him responsible for the creative freedom and large salaries that have.

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link

well yea, i mean something tells me disney/espn suits were not the impetus behind wesley morris earning 6 figures to write about movies

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

(which, knowing a handful of paid movie critics, i can say is pretty high for someone w/o ebertesque syndication!)

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link

yeah if i had to guess grantland is prob fd

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link

then again, the SI piece makes a good point saying that they'll prob run it as long as absolutely possible just to prove that they don't need simmons's #name and #brand

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

or close it/ruin it out of spite/disinterest

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link

feel like if its true they want a more buzzfeedy site than thats prob what theyll do

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link

countdown to zach lowe getting rolled into insider

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

yeah the speculation i've seen (and the skipper quote seems to confirm) is that in the short term at least they'll continue it out of spite to 'prove' that bill simmons had nothing to do w/ grantland's success

balls, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

is grantland successful tho

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link

i mean its successful enough, it prob gets slightly more/about the same viewers as deadspin

slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link


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