yeah his writing has been pretty much about maintaining his brand for awhile. big lead speculates it pretty much came down to money and espn thinking if they devote this much money to keeping simmons then what are they gonna have to do to keep real revenue generators like (wait for it) skip bayless and colin cowherd?
― balls, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link
it also seems like they just hate him and felt like showing him that he actually matters not at all to what they do which is true
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link
like if hes gonna obnoxiously insult their corporate partners and them then whats the point espn is for showing the nfl not for bill simmons
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link
i mean i doubt skip bayless or colin cowherd matter to them either
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link
he shd go to the nytimes.com lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
cowherd generates serious revenue though, i'm not sure if he's dumb enough to think it's because he's great and he could just pick up and do that elsewhere. dan patrick had that remark about 'espn muscles' when cowherd attacked him.
― balls, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link
espn makes its money from broadcasting sports fullstop
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
the personalities are replaceable
i mean im sure the ppl who run the divisions in which the personalities work wldnt look at it that way but ultimately the reason they can charge cable companies as much in carriage fees as all the the other networks combined is because they have live sports
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link
It’s rumored that Simmons made $3 million per year. If that’s true, he was severely underpaid per his return on investment.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
(However, I was just reminded that he earns royalties from 30 for 30.)
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link
curious how ur calculating the simmons roi
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link
ad rates
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link
the cost are like way more than his $3m a/year tho, also no one knows how many impressions/views/etc hes producing across all the platforms
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link
the cost are like way more than his $3m a/year tho
Sure. However, the costs are insignificant. Moreover, they are spread across groups.
also no one knows how many impressions/views/etc hes producing across all the platforms
They (Grantland, podcasts, and television) are very estimable.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link
idk man i dont think its a coincidence that most ppl dont get simmons type money or their own fiefdoms and espn were fine with letting him walk, i mean how many of those views were simmons views and how many were espn views
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
Andrew Golis @agolis 5m5 minutes agoI'm calling it now: Bill Simmons, first Editor In Chief of Snapchat.
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:19 (eight years ago) link
anon espn insider reactions http://deadspin.com/espners-bill-simmons-found-out-he-was-fired-on-twitter-1703112625
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link
i dont think its a coincidence that most ppl dont get simmons type money or their own fiefdoms and espn were fine with letting him walk
Sure. A lot of people are underpaid. ESPN ad revenues were $3.9 billion in 2014. Money wasn’t the issue.
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link
i agree that ultimately its small change to them but there does seem to be some dynamic of them rolling out the red carpet for him and he still wldnt be a team player, and obvs from a marxist perspective everyone at espn is prob underpaid
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link
but from a capitalist perspective i kinda doubt he was
Fair. (And everyone is underpaid except John Skipper. He makes $5 million per year and an addition $10-15 million in stock!)
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link
Really? You think he’ll make less than $3 million in his next position?
naw hell prob make the same or more from some thirsty startfucking company, still doesnt make it good business, like has katie courics contract paid off for yahoo prob not
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link
(And everyone is underpaid except John Skipper. He makes $5 million per year and an addition $10-15 million in stock!)
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, May 8, 2015 1:25 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
btw i am willing to do that job for only $4m a year +stock espn call me
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link
—“Ding Dong the witch is dead.” (That’s how one ESPN staffer describes the vibe in Bristol.)
lol if espn thinks that bill simmons out of all their personalities is the fuckin wicked witch there's...quite a lot wrong with that network
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link
http://sports.genius.com/
― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 8 May 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link
LOL @ http://sports.genius.com/ is actually a thing on the internet.
lmao wld be interested in rubbernecking that marriage tbh
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link
― slothroprhymes, Friday, May 8, 2015 1:29 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya it is clearly a post apocalyptic hellscape
was gonna say genius seems a good fit, let's see
― “audience participation” otherwise known as “touching” (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 May 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
man i blinked and missed rap genius exploding, i knew they broadened to like lyrics in general or w/e but i had no idea they were doing sports and shit thats kinda scary
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link
trying to reach escape velocity from the seo wasteland
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
Christopher Hayes @chrislhayes 20s20 seconds ago Manhattan, NYESPN brass showing a surprising degree of confidence that @BillSimmons isn't going to proceed to tell the world every one of their secrets.
best possible outcome is a 50k word multipart tell all hit piece
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
spread over 500 genius annotations of course
this is almost certainly going to happen
― frogbs, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link
can't wait
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link
i'd say deadspin would kill to host that but it won't matter b/c they'll just cut up various simmdog revelations into multiple kinja posts and shit them out at staggered intervals throughout the day for optimum #views
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
hes got to have signed a non disclosure but maybe doesnt gaf
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
will prob just talk abt it on the pod then i will have to beg ilh posters to tell me what he said
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link
burns me up how pods r where all the good gossip is
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
he doesn't have dgaf money as much as i would love for him to just destroy espn
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link
kimmel could prob float him some safety net cash on the d/l if he wants to go on an anti-ESPN blitzkrieg
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
wld be a reasonable enough calculation that its not worth it for espn to sue him, tho obvs itd hurt his future employment prospects
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link
how much is dgaf money he def has way more than it wld take for me to not gaf lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
rather than a huge hit piece hell prob just be taking weird passive agressive shots at them til the end of time
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 18:59 (eight years ago) link
idk $3m/year for the past five years doesn't seem like "i could definitely survive getting sued by the walt disney corp" money
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
pass/agg shots much more his style
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link
the no way sna of sports personalities
― slothroprhymes, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link
i have a theory that grantland will be much better now simmons has gone, sorta like when the knicks lost patrick ewing
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 May 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link