bill simmons IS bill simmons IN the book of BASKETBALL

i remember reading him being frustrated w/ espn's inability to monetize podcasts, that the internet was something they just paid very little attention to in general (and he understood why) but that he had seen you could make more money than what espn was doing w/ it so short of an espn competitor making a godfather offer i would not be surprised at all if w/ podcasts at least he went some route w/ carolla and kimmel. he's definitely seemed much more interested in doing video/tv type stuff though so nbc or fox could be possible, that would be much more difficult/risky to pull off independently. i wonder if espn will do any kind of blackout w/ him down the stretch the way they did w/ dan patrick.

i don't think simmons is gonna go to another media org. i bet he either takes vc money and builds out his own thing or does something with, like, hbo.

"media org" i mean news media org, esp website

i don't think he cares that much about writing anymore

ya sounds about right one of those weekly hbo civilized sports talk shows that no one watches, produce an occasional documentary, prob get bored and start blogging

yeah his writing has been pretty much about maintaining his brand for awhile. big lead speculates it pretty much came down to money and espn thinking if they devote this much money to keeping simmons then what are they gonna have to do to keep real revenue generators like (wait for it) skip bayless and colin cowherd?

it also seems like they just hate him and felt like showing him that he actually matters not at all to what they do which is true

like if hes gonna obnoxiously insult their corporate partners and them then whats the point espn is for showing the nfl not for bill simmons

i mean i doubt skip bayless or colin cowherd matter to them either

he shd go to the nytimes.com lol

cowherd generates serious revenue though, i'm not sure if he's dumb enough to think it's because he's great and he could just pick up and do that elsewhere. dan patrick had that remark about 'espn muscles' when cowherd attacked him.

espn makes its money from broadcasting sports fullstop

the personalities are replaceable

i mean im sure the ppl who run the divisions in which the personalities work wldnt look at it that way but ultimately the reason they can charge cable companies as much in carriage fees as all the the other networks combined is because they have live sports

It’s rumored that Simmons made $3 million per year. If that’s true, he was severely underpaid per his return on investment.

(However, I was just reminded that he earns royalties from 30 for 30.)

curious how ur calculating the simmons roi

curious how ur calculating the simmons roi

ad rates

the cost are like way more than his $3m a/year tho, also no one knows how many impressions/views/etc hes producing across all the platforms

the cost are like way more than his $3m a/year tho

Sure. However, the costs are insignificant. Moreover, they are spread across groups.

also no one knows how many impressions/views/etc hes producing across all the platforms

They (Grantland, podcasts, and television) are very estimable.

idk man i dont think its a coincidence that most ppl dont get simmons type money or their own fiefdoms and espn were fine with letting him walk, i mean how many of those views were simmons views and how many were espn views

Andrew Golis ‏@agolis 5m5 minutes ago
I'm calling it now: Bill Simmons, first Editor In Chief of Snapchat.

anon espn insider reactions http://deadspin.com/espners-bill-simmons-found-out-he-was-fired-on-twitter-1703112625

i dont think its a coincidence that most ppl dont get simmons type money or their own fiefdoms and espn were fine with letting him walk

Sure. A lot of people are underpaid. ESPN ad revenues were $3.9 billion in 2014. Money wasn’t the issue.

i agree that ultimately its small change to them but there does seem to be some dynamic of them rolling out the red carpet for him and he still wldnt be a team player, and obvs from a marxist perspective everyone at espn is prob underpaid

but from a capitalist perspective i kinda doubt he was

i agree that ultimately its small change to them but there does seem to be some dynamic of them rolling out the red carpet for him and he still wldnt be a team player, and obvs from a marxist perspective everyone at espn is prob underpaid

Fair. (And everyone is underpaid except John Skipper. He makes $5 million per year and an addition $10-15 million in stock!)

but from a capitalist perspective i kinda doubt he was

Really? You think he’ll make less than $3 million in his next position?

naw hell prob make the same or more from some thirsty startfucking company, still doesnt make it good business, like has katie courics contract paid off for yahoo prob not

(And everyone is underpaid except John Skipper. He makes $5 million per year and an addition $10-15 million in stock!)

― Allen (etaeoe), Friday, May 8, 2015 1:25 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw i am willing to do that job for only $4m a year +stock espn call me

—“Ding Dong the witch is dead.” (That’s how one ESPN staffer describes the vibe in Bristol.)

lol if espn thinks that bill simmons out of all their personalities is the fuckin wicked witch there's...quite a lot wrong with that network

naw hell prob make the same or more from some thirsty startfucking company, still doesnt make it good business, like has katie courics contract paid off for yahoo prob not

http://sports.genius.com/

LOL @ http://sports.genius.com/ is actually a thing on the internet.

lmao wld be interested in rubbernecking that marriage tbh

lol if espn thinks that bill simmons out of all their personalities is the fuckin wicked witch there's...quite a lot wrong with that network

― slothroprhymes, Friday, May 8, 2015 1:29 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya it is clearly a post apocalyptic hellscape

was gonna say genius seems a good fit, let's see

man i blinked and missed rap genius exploding, i knew they broadened to like lyrics in general or w/e but i had no idea they were doing sports and shit thats kinda scary

trying to reach escape velocity from the seo wasteland

Christopher Hayes ‏@chrislhayes 20s20 seconds ago Manhattan, NY
ESPN brass showing a surprising degree of confidence that @BillSimmons isn't going to proceed to tell the world every one of their secrets.

best possible outcome is a 50k word multipart tell all hit piece

spread over 500 genius annotations of course

this is almost certainly going to happen

can't wait

i'd say deadspin would kill to host that but it won't matter b/c they'll just cut up various simmdog revelations into multiple kinja posts and shit them out at staggered intervals throughout the day for optimum #views

hes got to have signed a non disclosure but maybe doesnt gaf

will prob just talk abt it on the pod then i will have to beg ilh posters to tell me what he said

burns me up how pods r where all the good gossip is

he doesn't have dgaf money as much as i would love for him to just destroy espn

kimmel could prob float him some safety net cash on the d/l if he wants to go on an anti-ESPN blitzkrieg

wld be a reasonable enough calculation that its not worth it for espn to sue him, tho obvs itd hurt his future employment prospects

how much is dgaf money he def has way more than it wld take for me to not gaf lol

rather than a huge hit piece hell prob just be taking weird passive agressive shots at them til the end of time