RIP David Brooks

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yes came here to post that

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 May 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

he's either a liar or very very stupid

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 May 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

in which albert burnenko proposes that brooks sent his exwife a dick pic and is swimming in existential despair http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/i-dont-think-david-brooks-is-okay-you-guys-1702674607/+AlbertBurneko

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 7 May 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

good overview

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link

that krugman column linked above has its heart in the right place, but sentences like these make me cringe more than a little:

Take, for example, issues of health and mortality. Many people have pointed out that there are a number of black neighborhoods in Baltimore where life expectancy compares unfavorably with impoverished Third World nations. But what’s really striking on a national basis is the way class disparities in death rates have been soaring even among whites.

it's the phrase But what’s really striking that rankles. as if it's a competition between class and race! "yeah, i know racial disparities are profound, but what's really striking..."

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

also:

It has been disheartening to see some commentators still writing as if poverty were simply a matter of values, as if the poor just mysteriously make bad choices and all would be well if they adopted middle-class values. Maybe, just maybe, that was a sustainable argument four decades ago,

no, that was never a "sustainable" argument in re. structural poverty.

i mean krugman wants to make this all about the recent increase in inequality and all that portends, but in doing so he kind of hand-waves away some stuff that he really shouldn't be...

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

no, that was never a "sustainable" argument in re. structural poverty

yeah this bothered me too when I read it. as if there were not huge structural reasons for poverty 4 decades ago - "previous generations of poors were just bad decision makers" is not a historically valid argument imo.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

Krugman doesn't write felicitous prose. He concedes that his wife severely edits him.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

Fortunately to Brooks every generation of poors made bad decisions

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link

at least previous generations of poors had elder sages to let them know what bad decisions they were making

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link

undeserving poors will always be with us

irl sweatpants (Hunt3r), Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link

it's the phrase But what’s really striking that rankles. as if it's a competition between class and race! "yeah, i know racial disparities are profound, but what's really striking..."

It IS a competition between - not class and race - but class and identity politics - in the competition for redress. Lobbing little victories toward the aims of identity politics is easy. Fixing class inequality is hard and is unlikely to make the Wall Street money masters happy.

Racial inequality only exacerbated by class inequality, obviously.

Vic Perry, Thursday, 7 May 2015 23:10 (eight years ago) link

FP

deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 8 May 2015 00:26 (eight years ago) link

flag this, pal

Vic Perry, Friday, 8 May 2015 02:38 (eight years ago) link

discussions are made so much more interesting with amateur football refs running around throwing hankies at minor dissents

Vic Perry, Friday, 8 May 2015 02:43 (eight years ago) link

well there's a whole much more interesting discussion happening on the 'privilege as a meme' thread about this subject

but here's a preview: you're wrong

deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 8 May 2015 04:27 (eight years ago) link

Oh there's always action on the racism, sexism, privilege threads. But look at how quiet the class-related threads are.

Vic Perry, Friday, 8 May 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

Do you actually disagree that racial inequality is exacerbated by class inequality? What exactly is so threatening about this notion?

Can people have more than one political identity at a time?

Because a rise in good ol' cross-the-boundaries class consciousness would be kind of helpful right now --- I believe I heard West and Smiley talking about economic commonalities and shared conditions, for example. It's certainly what I'm talking about.

And it puts the current "left" to sleep.

Vic Perry, Friday, 8 May 2015 13:43 (eight years ago) link

Do you actually disagree that racial inequality is exacerbated by class inequality? What exactly is so threatening about this notion?

It does not seem like that is what you were saying. You seemed to be dismissing concerns about racial inequality. Bad cops are not quizzing African-Americans about their class status

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 May 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

It IS a competition between - not class and race - but class and identity politics - in the competition for redress.

― Vic Perry, Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 8 May 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link

this is a thread for making fun of david brooks btw, he wrote a love letter to the ruling class today http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/08/opinion/mothers-and-presidents.html

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link

eye have already been rolled at Jacobin class articles on the privilege thread so VP's views are clearly in need of flagging

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 8 May 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link

happy Mother's Day!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 May 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

If I like Barbara Bush, do I hate my mother?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 May 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

was kinda shocked at him coming right out and saying society exists at the begining there tbh

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

he doesn't love Thatcher THAT much

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 May 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

its like the core conservative belief, he never wouldve ceded that much ground to left a couple years ago

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

"According to some surveys, 90 percent of businesses around the world are family-operated businesses."

for real?

scott seward, Friday, 8 May 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

eye have already been rolled at Jacobin class articles on the privilege thread so VP's views are clearly in need of flagging

― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 8 May 2015 14:44 (1 hour ago) Permalink

This guys been on a roll lately

deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 8 May 2015 16:32 (eight years ago) link

for real?

yes only 10% of business-owners don't have families

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link

brontes and amises in novel writing

difficult listening hour, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link

Some mothers — and some fathers, husbands and wives — shape their kin with extraordinary power, and in certain directions.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

you know the ones im talking about: east, southeast, south by southeast

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link

well, family-operated business would mean at least two members of a family run the business. so, again, really? 90% of all businesses?

scott seward, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

at least two members of a family run the business

it does?

anyway Brooks is a moron it's safe to say that number is bullshit

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link

I dunno, Wikipedia says

Family business is the oldest and most common model of economic organization. The vast majority of businesses throughout the world—from corner shops to multinational publicly listed organizations with hundreds of thousands of employees—can be considered family businesses.[1]

I wouldn't be that surprised.

jmm, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link

90% seems high to me too, but i mean what is a business and what does it mean to be part of it, i help out my dad w his business occasionally is that family business now idk

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

sure they can be, if you're willing to call franchises operated by families as "family businesses" or huge corporations with majority stockholders from a single family as "family businesses" etc. I mean it's just a dishonest rhetorical device, it doesn't reflect reality.

xxp

Οὖτις, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

every corporation has a right to a family too, just as it has a relationship with God, its creator.

irl sweatpants (Hunt3r), Friday, 8 May 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

corporations are families, hello

lag∞n, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

Business has a right to children

90 percent of businesses around the world are family-operated businesses

this is shocking? pretty much goes from the murdochs and the ny times and the koch bros down to yr corner store and w33d dealer

mookieproof, Saturday, 9 May 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link

to da mob (family)

Mademoiselle Coiffures (mattresslessness), Saturday, 9 May 2015 00:41 (eight years ago) link

99% of business are like little mom and pop businesses, it's just that a small percentage of businesses seem to dominate commerce.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Saturday, 9 May 2015 04:24 (eight years ago) link

Trying to imagine the puffed-up pinkish glow this gave to Mr. Brooks' jowls this morning:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/opinion/robert-redford-on-david-brooks.html?src=recg&_r=0

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 10 May 2015 02:26 (eight years ago) link

redford kind of a dim bulb. part of me kinda doesn't want to live long enough to see brad pitt become redford. both kinda not-great dim bulb pretty boys. like warren basically. for some reason i'll never forget being on nantucket when i was a little kid and a funny cab driver going on an on about how short robert redford was and how terrible his skin was! she was really shocked. he's got a couple of inches on tom anyway.

http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/Movies/PhotoG/robert-redford-tom-cruise-2007-14413.jpg

scott seward, Sunday, 10 May 2015 02:38 (eight years ago) link

would pay to see cruise as a hobbit

Aimless, Sunday, 10 May 2015 03:30 (eight years ago) link

Would pay to see cruise as a hobbit and get murked by one of those stocky beardo dudes with axes

brosario nawson (m bison), Sunday, 10 May 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

even harry pooper is a hobbit next to K-Ho.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/19/article-2344324-0A062415000005DC-666_306x504.jpg

scott seward, Sunday, 10 May 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link


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