HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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i think re: littlefinger producers may have initially asked him to do a more posh english accent and were eventually like "oh fuck it" and he's stuck with the thick brogue ever since

alternate theory that may be jumping through hoops to explain something: littlefinger is from a very poor shitty provincial area called the fingers. i imagine their accents are thick (ppl will note that the northerners have thicker irish, scottish or northern english accents whereas king's landing folk don't aside from the poor people in flea bottom). when he's in king's landing he has to fake being an aristocrat, as indeed he's done his whole life. since he doesnt really have to do that anymore perhaps he is talking in his natural accent

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

The accents don't really bother me either -- they just code as some variant of BBC costume drama

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

Us 'mericans aren't as sensitive to such things.

Don't think that's the case -- I think if Westeros was supposed to be like "early America" and characters talked like they were from Texas in one episode and then like they were from Philly in another, it would be jarring to us

― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Tuesday, May 5, 2015 3:50 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I meant we aren't as sensitive to these particular accents. Not that we aren't sensitive to accent fluctuations in general.

Evan, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

gawker dudes, wtf is wrong with you?!!

Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link

classic gawkdudes

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

article is p entertaining for what it is, however it ends with something that drives me utterly batshit:

Well, first of all, I care. Second of all, the cornerstone of science fiction and fantasy fandom is nitpicking.

the first of all part is fine. thats subjective. but i've often wondered why exactly this is always the case, and it's what keeps me away from a fair amount of hard genre stuff

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:17 (eight years ago) link

onion knight accent has started to infiltrate my inner monologue

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

xp to self - why the 2nd part is the case, that is

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

liam cunningham is a great actor (hunger!) with a world champion voice

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

This episode kinda went overboard on scenes when one character asks another a question, and they answer "hmm, let me tell you an anecdote that reveals an essential piece of history in two minutes flat", but otherwise I enjoyed it. Some excellent thinning out of fiftieth-wheel characters at the end.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

forced exposition is the worst

Evan, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link

This season is starting to feel like that new Blur album tbh.

p:s nerds know (dog latin), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

at what point does the Blur album expose itself to you as part of a plot to get you to follow a gruff king

DJP, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link

Don't think that's the case -- I think if Westeros was supposed to be like "early America" and characters talked like they were from Texas in one episode and then like they were from Philly in another, it would be jarring to us

― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Tuesday, May 5, 2015 3:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a good idea

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link

http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/ask-the-maester-the-tale-of-brave-ser-barristan-the-faith-militant-and-the-fighting-harpies/
reasonable explanations for some of the things that have inspired the most dedicated nitpicking. not that i expect it to slow anyone down.

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link

when anyone nickpicks at this show im just like "wut i dont even remember the thing youre talking about i watched all four leaked episodes in one sitting a month ago"

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link

haha, pretty reasonable approach

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

the good thing abt binge watching is u dont remember anything/have to argue online

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

just let the content wash over u like a wave and emerge purified

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link

do u remember boobs tho

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link

the show is mostly a montage of boobs iirc

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link

the good thing abt binge watching is u dont remember anything/have to argue online

Esp. useful for arguing about The Wire.

Madison Dumbbarfer (Leee), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 21:40 (eight years ago) link

yeah by the fourth episode in a row i can't separate the characters from various faces on tinder

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link

I just watched ep4 then switched over and Gogglebox was watching it
'take your minge and MOVE!'
better than this thread tbh no offence

kinder, Friday, 8 May 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

I've stopped being able to pay attention to the dialogue on this show?

, Saturday, 9 May 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

It's a tragedy

, Saturday, 9 May 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

Sons of the Harpy appear to have one weird trick that lets them slide behind anyone and slit their throat. Why don't all the fighters in this show use that one weird trick

, Saturday, 9 May 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

westerosi conquerors hate this one weird trick

SCHLITZ MIXED BAG (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 9 May 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

Those unsullied were quite disappointing and made them look good imo. Apart from grey worm of course, they were a shower of shite that capitulated way too easily.

xelab, Saturday, 9 May 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

unsullied aren't exactly trained for urban alley knife fights. they're siege-oriented spear dudes. harpy dudes are just expertly exploiting an obvious weakness.

Clay, Saturday, 9 May 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

i disagree with that, the unsullied are basically the most elite and exclusive mercenary fighting force across all of the several continents that have been introduced so far in this show, they have been trained since they were toddlers to be the most badass of all badass mercenary fighters and the idea that they might be bamboozled by fighting masked vigilantes in slightly closer quarters than they are used to is akin to suggesting that the world champions of any given sport could be beaten by a pub team provided the chosen field of combat/competition was suitable and lol wgaf clearly i am a total nerd for even remotely caring about this shit given that we now live in a world where tv spoils things for books jesus christ

Windsor Davies, Saturday, 9 May 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link

idk the world's most mighty military forces irl have failed to control plenty of incredibly underarmed and untrained regional armies in situations like afghanistan & vietnam et al., and grrm is certainly using dany's storyline to speak to the problems with outside forces ruling & the insurgency against the leaders inherent in that situation so it's easy for me to gloss over thematically

Clay, Saturday, 9 May 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link

sons of the harpy have had time to develop some solid metalworking skills for those masks so it seems fair that they'd have time to get decent at killing too, at least decent enough for five-on-one close quarters encounters

cis-het shitlord (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 9 May 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link

I think people who complain about the unsullied rolling over have seen too many movies/TV shows where a few of the good guys outshoot/outfight dozens of baddies.

nickn, Sunday, 10 May 2015 00:45 (eight years ago) link

strength in numbers is actually kind of a running thing in the novels fwiw

Clay, Sunday, 10 May 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link

i've wondered if they could track down the harpies by just grilling anyone capable of making those masks in the area. and by grilling, i mean torture.

And by grilling, I mean grilling.

nickn, Sunday, 10 May 2015 01:18 (eight years ago) link

I think the problem with the unsullied & harpies fight was the set. It was supposed to be a narrow alley but the set was obviously not that narrow.

poxy fülvous (abanana), Sunday, 10 May 2015 11:32 (eight years ago) link

the hypothesis of some (incl. jason concepcion/netw3rk in a recent article) is that a fair amount of the unsullied are fighting pit dudes who are out of work. bc I higly doubt they're just masked rich people

slothroprhymes, Sunday, 10 May 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link

like the unsullied, fighting pit slaves are trained all their lives to be what they are. and not to fight in an orderly elite fashion but to be vicious/relentless

slothroprhymes, Sunday, 10 May 2015 12:53 (eight years ago) link

We're all overthinking it a bit. In my opinion it is poor editing and/or choreography.

Goals:
-Portray the unsullied being overwhelmed and defeated: check.
-Show Grey Worm fighting competently as he is a main character: check.

They likely weren't thinking of any character dynamics beyond that. They achieved what they thought the scene was meant to convey.

Evan, Sunday, 10 May 2015 13:27 (eight years ago) link

Kind of like how "plot armor" protects characters in unlikely situations, this is the opposite. They overemphasized the fact that the unsullied get killed in the scene for the purpose of the plot and failed to better represent their character attributes as bad ass fighters.

Evan, Sunday, 10 May 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link

it wldve been cooler if when she ran into the kennel masters daughter sansa was just all "oh hey miranda"

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 05:54 (eight years ago) link

Pretty good episode. No idea where these threads are going now.

Did the message to Sansa to light a candle come from Brienne, or from other Stark supporters? Or was it another boring Ramsay trick?

poxy fülvous (abanana), Monday, 11 May 2015 06:23 (eight years ago) link

Other Stark supporters or boring Ramsay trick ~we don't know~

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 11 May 2015 06:54 (eight years ago) link

the sequence of the episode implied it was the message from brienne.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 11 May 2015 11:55 (eight years ago) link

it was probably Bran remote warging some peasants

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Monday, 11 May 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link

Makes sense- old people are more likely to fall for those scams. Bran calls and gets them to download TeamViewer and that's that.

Evan, Monday, 11 May 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

this ep - aside from its lack of cersei - was as good as last week, arguably better in some respects imo

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link


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