craftsmanship, consumerism, virtue, privilege, and quality

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my fiber journey is currently involves an exploration of an iron age weaving technique, namely tablet weaving (also known as card weaving). from what i understand, most people who tablet weave these days are into creative anachronism and/or reenacting viking battles. i don't do those things but the weaving is fun.

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 17:01 (eight years ago) link

tablet weaving is mainly used for making patterned bands and braids, which can be used as straps, belts, or garment trim. it's an interesting technique to learn because it doesn't require a loom at all (though it can be done on many types of conventional looms). all you need is a set of cards (square, with a hole in each corner) and yarn (threaded through the holes); as you weave, you turn the cards forward or backwards, changing the position of the warp yarns. depending on how the cards are threaded and the sequence of card turns, you can make make extremely elaborate patterns. it's pretty neat.

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

anyway, here's the latest thing i did. about 2 yards in an advancing wave pattern

http://i.imgur.com/ChpnSFA.jpg

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Tuesday, 5 May 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I probably have more to say about my handicrafts and how i think of them in relation to the titular focus of this thread, if anyone cares -- but just for right now I'm thinking about how (typically white) people will describe or market certain handmade goods with fucked up quasi-racist terms. pinterest & etsy are truly minefields of suspect language.

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 29 May 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

"ethnic" "tribal" "gypsy" "primitive"

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 29 May 2015 13:37 (eight years ago) link

okay, maybe those are just straight-out unqualified racist.

whenever someone describes something as "tribal" or "ethnic" it's like -- what tribe? which ethnicity? rhetorical questions, of course, since they all seem to indicate an undifferentiated kind of "exotic" non-whiteness.

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Friday, 29 May 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

a nice little wage

imago, Monday, 7 September 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

I guess this is as good a thread as any for this, but one category I find really head-scratchy is artisanal junk food. E.g. I just tried Doughnut Plant for the first time (and I've had Dough a few times), and honestly, it's really delicious, but it came to almost $9 for an iced coffee and a big donut square. They seem to be doing well - they've expanded, but what is the market for eating stuff like that on a regular basis? It's expensive enough to only be for the affluent, but unhealthy enough to not seem like something most affluent urbanites would eat often.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 11 September 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

whenever someone describes something as "tribal" or "ethnic" it's like -- what tribe? which ethnicity? rhetorical questions, of course, since they all seem to indicate an undifferentiated kind of "exotic" non-whiteness.

otm, and really, hasn't this been par for the course since, like, Marco Polo? How much worse was understanding of Chinese culture to a 13th century European than to a 21st century American? 10%? less?

Dominique, Friday, 11 September 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

I don't want to get too down on these people ^ because they seem like an OK bunch but still

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 October 2015 10:45 (eight years ago) link

Using a typewriter would still be my favoured writing tool, at least for initial composition. In fact, god, I might have to go along there, having lost my olivetti portable a few years ago. Maybe I will set up a hand-typed letter service. Thanks TH!

Fizzles, Thursday, 29 October 2015 11:35 (eight years ago) link

"hand-typed" oh ffs

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 29 October 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

keys lovingly pressed in sequence manually by Mavis Beacon herself

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Thursday, 29 October 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link

So glad I have prehensile toes with which to type at my computer.

Aimless, Thursday, 29 October 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

35 pounds for up to 200 words holy fucking shit

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 29 October 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

Couldn't you buy a typewriter for like two letters at that price?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 29 October 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

BOGUS HIPSTER CHOCOLATE LIARS
BOGUS HIPSTER CHOCOLATE LIARS
BOGUS HIPSTER CHOCOLATE LIARS
BOGUS HIPSTER CHOCOLATE LIARS

goole, Thursday, 17 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

hmm. It sounds like a lot of the supposed "fraud" was early? I've tried a bunch of kinds of mast brothers chocolate and I mostly thought they were delicious, and I didn't find the flavor/texture at all like what they say in the article. $10 is a lot to pay for any kind of chocolate, no matter how good.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

http://dallasfood.org/wp-content/uploads/blame-it-on-the-rain1.jpg

nickn, Thursday, 17 December 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link

Rebuttal:

https://twitter.com/JaredLeto/status/677619136407724032

But this does feel like the Stephen Glass of the artisan movement.

(please no long guns of any kind) (Eazy), Friday, 18 December 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link

lol regular things "made 'the right way' by guys with beards and tatoos"

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link

I think we've found our investor!

nickn, Friday, 18 December 2015 02:08 (eight years ago) link

It's expensive enough to only be for the affluent, but unhealthy enough to not seem like something most affluent urbanites would eat often.

Many young people are under 35 and still eat crappy food.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 December 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link

I mean many rich people.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 18 December 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link

hmm. It sounds like a lot of the supposed "fraud" was early?

uh in reading the whole thing it seems like as of now they're not stating origins and not being transparent in their production processes while saying they are in interviews in stuff.

i don't really care about chocolate or this story but seems pretty obvious what they were planning all along.

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 December 2015 02:39 (eight years ago) link

The only thing shocking there is that they were using the Gallagher brothers as style icons in 2007

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

The idea that someone would play fast and loose with the truth in order to enhance the price of their luxury-market products is far from surprising. It is the American Way. It's fine with me to expose them as frauds. That also is a fine old American tradition.

It's just that outside of the few people who pay super-premium prices for ultra-high-end chocolate bars, nobody else cares.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link

bushybearded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the chocolatey dynamo in the machinery of beans

big WHOIS aka the nameserver (s.clover), Friday, 18 December 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

i had one of their bars once, my wife included it as a stocking stuffer. i enjoyed it but i also don't have a refined chocolate palate.

their brand feels like part of this more recent movement, elevating this kind of food to artisanal status. for example god knows how many overpriced grilled cheese restaurants opened in the past few years around here.

nomar, Friday, 18 December 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

Would rather have $10 worth of dairy milk than one bar of that, however nice the wrapping is.

koogs, Friday, 18 December 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link

I mean the bottom line for me is I think their chocolate is very tasty and different from other chocolate I've had, and I'm also very rarely going to spend $10 or even $5 on a chocolate bar. I rarely even buy a chocolate bar. As far as whether they're lying, I have mixed feelings about that sort of lie, because it's very part-and-parcel of story marketing. I mean the whole bushy beards, we brought cocoa beans on a sailboat stuff, it's the kind of stuff that, if you're the kind of person who wants to buy into it, you might suspend disbelief a little. It's a narrative, it's a fantasy, etc. A lot of luxury products offer that. A lot of "traditional" high-end chocolate makers also offer a semi-bullshit story about craftsmanship etc., it's just usually couched in terms like tradition, family, history, decades/centuries of experience, etc.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

i think the bean-to-bar thing is a lot less of a gray area than you're making it out to be

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 December 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

In truth, despite their claim that they “had come up with how everything is done every step of the way,” the Masts picked up at least some of their knowledge on the thriving online community of chocolate makers that has existed for more than a decade. A public website, Chocolate Alchemy, is a hub of information, where chocolate makers could trade tips and advice for making small-batch chocolate.

Does the "authentic, artisan" thing lose some cachet in this era where you can learn all this stuff on the internet and not have to hunt down rare books or elderly craftspeople? Does it matter to consumers?

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:27 (eight years ago) link

elderly craftspeople = traditional apprentice situation etc

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link

i guess that's separate from the "wide-eyed, lone wolf / mad scientists" thing

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:31 (eight years ago) link

i think the bean-to-bar thing is a lot less of a gray area than you're making it out to be

― call all destroyer, Friday, December 18, 2015 4:14 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes and no. It's still a story about how a thing is made rather than a property of the product.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

linguistic turn gone mad

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Friday, 18 December 2015 21:46 (eight years ago) link

My favorite part of the story is the before photos of them. "BUSTED! Mast Brothers grew their beards and were not born with them."

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 18 December 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

Ppl judging on any aspect of process or back story will continue to be mugs and long may they remain so

darraghmac, Friday, 18 December 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

i remember when i found out my favorite ice cream wasn't actually from sweden. broke my heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJI4Ffr9xk

scott seward, Friday, 18 December 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

and then when i found out that Häagen-Dazs didn't actually mean Joyful Cream Bowl or something and was just a made up thing? i never trusted again.

scott seward, Friday, 18 December 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link

let's not lose sight of the fact that allegations of virtual bean mistreatment have been made in this case

home organ, Friday, 18 December 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link

I lost any sympathy I may've had for the marks brother when I saw that picture of him wearing a T-shirt with his own name on it.

HD has a good story behind the name fwiw -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4agen-Dazs#Origin_of_brand_name

koogs, Friday, 18 December 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

Scott DFW from Dallas Food Blog previously took down NoKa chocolate, for similar reasons of style/packaging over substance, and deception around their chocolate-making process (plus in NoKa's case, an absolutely insane markup in their prices):
http://dallasfood.org/2006/12/noka-chocolate-part-1/

NoKa went out of business in 2011.

Plasmon, Sunday, 20 December 2015 08:58 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBb9O-aW4zI

nomar, Monday, 4 January 2016 04:31 (eight years ago) link


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