pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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it's a bit breathless, but i give it an A for effort. i mean, it took some thought to come up with. which i appeciate. i am all for thought. i kinda want to know what this is though: "in its "South Park"-ish warehouse artlessness."

just trying to picture what that would be...

scott seward, Monday, 4 May 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link

yeah what was ridiculous about it, seemed pretty well written to me

some dude, Monday, 4 May 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

it's like aliens sinking a jukebox in acid mannn

i thought that was a great review, number was much higher than i would have gone with but the review felt like you could have shifted the number any direction & it would be pretty well unchanged

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

one criticism i might have about PC music after reading it, for example, is: Like all of these networks and products, PC Music answers our desire to escape the burden of physical presence —this feels like a very old experience of the internet—like, now its my non-physical presence which feels like more of a burden. PC Music kinda run on pre-Facebook ideas.

but anyway

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

anti-physical music for an anti-physical time

Not sure I understand what this means

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

"PC Music kinda run on pre-Facebook ideas."

i've come to like them more than ever in the past few months, but this is so otm

soyrev, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link

"anti-physical music for an anti-physical time"

everyone sits around all day playing shooter games. i think that's what that means.

scott seward, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link

So is PC Music good for Call of Duty?

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

Remember when we had "pre-Facebook ideas" and pro-physical music in a pro-physical time...

curmudgeon, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

i think all of these things you guys are pretending to be confused by are pretty comprehensible w/in context

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

Remember when we had "pre-Facebook ideas" and pro-physical music in a pro-physical time...

do I ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWz9VN40nCA

Οὖτις, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

we laughed, we cried...

http://healthblog.yinteing.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/img_4909.jpg

scott seward, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:27 (eight years ago) link

i was honestly confused by the south park line i quoted. it wasn't faux-confusion, i swear.

scott seward, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

but i'll read it again in context.

scott seward, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

I feel like the Guardian story about PC Music captured it much better than the Pitchfork review. Certainly made it seem much more interesting to me.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

i haven't read the review yet but will tomorrow and am excited. without knowing anything, i'm surprised to see pc music getting a 7.3

soyrev, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

I really enjoyed it as a review - it's obviously a bit intense and OTT but I think if you're listening to the compilation in question you're going to be approaching it knowing the baggage and connotations it brings. When PC Music is at its best it's challenging music, I think a challenging read is called for when reviewing such an album.

boxedjoy, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link

more early eighties workout photos please

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

if you're listening to the compilation in question you're going to be approaching it knowing the baggage and connotations it brings

I kinda feel like this is too bad; like it would be more interesting, and more in the spirit of the project, for people to come at it cold, without the baggage of their (the listeners') theoretical presuppositions. How does this stuff work as pop music? If it doesn't, if it only works as a knowing art project, then isn't that a failure?

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 4 May 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

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campreverb, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

That's probably my biggest complaint about PC Music and the way we approach PC Music as ~critical thinkers - for all "Hey QT" may or may not be an ironic satire on brand infiltration in pop music and how we enjoy it, I can't help but feel it would work better (or, inspire a stronger reaction, at least) if it was a better song. I like the compilation the more it resembles great pop music and the less it seems like conceptualist experiments.

boxedjoy, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

As someone who kept hearing the name PC Music but wasn't much aware of any of the convo happening around them, I encountered the songs and the Hey QT video and mostly came away thinking "oh, so this is like the high-pitched voiced glitchy dance-pop that Kylie, Britney, and the like have been doing for years but with added ironic distance."

Greer, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link

"more early eighties workout photos please"

man, when i found that victoria principal picture there was a photo of a t.v. guide spread online of her doing exercises you could do while watching t.v. so that you never missed your favorite shows, but now i can't find it. that makes her some sort of post-physical pioneer.

scott seward, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

but yeah i also agree that clowning on young writers for not having a fuller sense of history is nagl.

i'm not really in favor of anyone getting "clowned," but it's not wrong to demand that writers — even young ones — be willing to broaden their knowledge of history, especially when they seek to explain things in a historical context. i'm not a real music critic like some of y'all, but i love to learn things & i can't see why someone who is interested in writing about music & its place in culture wouldn't be delighted to learn more. although the '90s sucked entirely from start to finish so i can understand why people wouldn't want to delve deeper.

example (crüt), Monday, 4 May 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link

thank you. posting lolz is apparently too much for my feeble brain today.

campreverb, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link

can someone point me to some britney, kylie, jpop or kpop that resembles the lipgloss twins?

diamonddave85​ (diamonddave85), Monday, 4 May 2015 19:22 (eight years ago) link

I don't know about the lipgloss twins specifically, but most of the rest of the stuff on Vol. 1 and especially everything by Hannah Diamond and A.G. Cook sounds like Britney or Kylie with the vocals slightly sped up and pitch-shifted to chipmunk levels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNTztyRDl70

See also: Kylie's Carried Away and Too Much, pretty much anything else from Britney's Femme Fatale. Don't know enough jpop/kpop to speak on that.

Greer, Monday, 4 May 2015 19:59 (eight years ago) link

No it doesn't sound like that at all. For a start, Hannah Diamond doesn't use sped up vocals.

everything, Monday, 4 May 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Hannah Diamond sped up is QT.

everything, Monday, 4 May 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link

There's a long line of hyper-precious pop that PC Music falls into, from Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep to Hey QT. While AG Cook may not have heard of Joey Levine, the blurring of lines between product and song for each of them is delightfully subversive.

campreverb, Monday, 4 May 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

No it doesn't sound like that at all. For a start, Hannah Diamond doesn't use sped up vocals.

― everything, Monday, May 4, 2015 4:32 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A lot of this stuff feels like bright euro dance-pop, the sorta thing you could find on Aphrodite or any of the last 3 or 4 Britney albums, just with one or two elements rendered "off" to produce this deliberate alienating effect, like how the stilted singing on Everything is the only thing that stands between it being a typical pop track you might have heard on the radio in say 2012. Keri Baby specifically reminds me of like a mid-2000s girl group song.

But I mean, if you don't hear it, that's cool too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Greer, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link

count me in the crowd who fucking hates PC Music but thought the review was excellent (even if I disagree with it all)

katherine, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

I have no idea if the review is accurate at all in regards to the cultural context of this music but I will say a) it describes a kind of music I would never want to listen to and b) the clips accompanying the review are godawful

Οὖτις, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link

I guess I can't escape the conclusion that a hatred of biology (being "anti-physical") is ultimately futile and pointless, biology rules us

Οὖτις, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link

I haven't read the review or any other 'thoughtful' pitchfork crap lately but Greer's blurb (xpp) seems like the kind of review that I could stand by. I haven't heard PC Music either but I know a good review when I see one

and pitchfork is stupid

I hope there are more pitchfork writers on ILX than Ned Ragget (or whatever his name is (and I don't know if he's still posting)) because I would love to see that smug tear in their eye when they find out they are writing for something that is stupid

The Once-ler, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link

:'O

tylerw, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link

has pitchfork ever published a parenthetical within another parenthetical?

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

maybe in that guillemots review?

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

still easier to read than pitchfork

The Once-ler, Monday, 4 May 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link

you tell 'em onceler

Οὖτις, Monday, 4 May 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link

soon their media empire will be in ruins

Οὖτις, Monday, 4 May 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

feels like writers dust off variations of this ""anti-physical music for an anti-physical time" type trope whenever they're trying to make ____ happen

Darin, Monday, 4 May 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

film at 11

example (crüt), Monday, 4 May 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link

think u mean a once

italosVEVO (wins), Monday, 4 May 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

derr

italosVEVO (wins), Monday, 4 May 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

las

italosVEVO (wins), Monday, 4 May 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link


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