London realness

lol obviously a medieval fayre in vauxhall pleasure gardens with fat men in armour hitting each other in front of bored children is the fakest thing ever

'real england/london' (w/e) is a self-appointing realness, absolutely garry bushell, am-dram england flag and harris hawk juxtapositions over pimm's - it is performative realness, an alchemical or accidental realness whose engine is the effort to be real. maybe i'll post some photos

what's not real about twenty people running into your local park at the same time to piss

carried 24 to her 16 m8 #shiningarmour

Celebrating St George's Day at all is an odd one in there's a realness to the sort of people who will absolutely insist on the existence of this complete non-tradition against all evidence to the contrary.

http://news.met.police.uk/news/man-sentenced-for-killing-deer-128247

suppose one should get terribly upset about this but it also seems quite impressive that he managed to find a wild deer in greater london, corner it and kill it with a knife

> also seems quite impressive that he managed to find a wild deer in greater london

richmond park is full of the things. and they are tame enough that you can walkt right up to them.

this would appear to be just a deer found in a field by a roadside, not a tame population in a confined area

On the same day, Shahid posted an update on a Facebook group called 'Deer Stalkers International'.

He boasted how he had killed a deer and "made a good meal for ten". Users of the group forwarded Shahid's post to police.

QED

in terms of harmful and idiotic behaviour it's easier to sympathize when it attracts full spectrum internet opprobrium from the brigitte bardot school of paranoid, vicious xenophobia crossed with dopy animal fetishism

idk if this is the right thread but about 10 SWAT cars just went thru marble arch rammed with special ops types heading for marylebone

http://thump.vice.com/en_uk/article/why-we-have-to-save-peckham-according-to-the-djs-who-play-there?utm_source=thumptwitteruk

The absolute state of this 'campaign'.

First wave gentrifiers outraged by the conclusion of the process they started in the first place.

"What's mad for me is the rate of change. East London had fifteen years of chaos and fun before it got to the way it is today. Peckham hasn't even had a chance to go through any of that"

Complete cultural wasteland beforehand obviously.

It feels so un-London - it's friendly, simple, uncomplicated.

Yeah, fuck London, amirite?

He's on to something with the rate of change bit. It's been amazing to watch how much Peckham has changed and how quickly.

But, yeah, all of that change has been at *someone's* expense. It's been rotten watching the people and businesses who were here when I got here getting pushed out, so feels bullshit of these guys to say "oh no, *that* amount of gentrification was fine, but no further, like!"

It's worth examining why the rate of change is so high in Peckham - you'd think places like Leyton or Stratford would see something similar there's not a single hipster coffee shop within miles of me (sadly; I like hipster coffee shops)

It had been trickling for a while, but I think the real starting gun was the Overground opening with trains direct from Shoreditch to Peckham Rye.

Interesting conversation at the weekend with guy who says the way, almost without exception, to solve poverty black spots is to run another bus line from there to somewhere good. Transport has such a huge effect and is often overlooked area of social policy.

All that said, Stratford is rammed with links now so uh

One thing that irritates me about this latest 'campaign' is that every source I've seen report it has apparently completely failed to review a single planning document associated with the proposed development. They've just heard 'luxury flats next to Bussey' and gone into panic mode.

A look through the design and access statement and acoustics report indicates the architectual/design team has given pretty decent consideration to the noise issues people are complaining about. Bedrooms are located away from areas of highest noise, there's extra glazing, units have 'mechanical ventilation', and proposed 'winter gardens' would give another layer of noise protection. Even ignoring Bussey, this building is located on a busy high street next to train tracks. It's going to be noisy no matter what, and surely anyone concerned about noise wouldn't move here to begin with. Perhaps the developers could look to do a 'deed of easement' whereby residents aren't allowed to complain about Bussey noise - that was one solution implemented when Ministry of Sound went through a similar thing with the Eileen House development a few years ago.

I get that other venues have been and are being lost because of this sort of thing, but it's frustrating that hardly anyone is even trying to look at this critically by engaging with the actual proposals.

I do wonder if the developers and council maybe failed to engage Bussey owners and other affected businesses in the early stages, though. If they'd consulted more thoroughly would any of this be an issue?

And regarding the "independent shops, churches and community spaces that would all be affected by these plans" as noted in the article... the proposal includes community space and provides more commercial/retail units than the current setup. I think the community space is at the basement level though, which may not be ideal.

Tracer I think there is a hipster coffee shop now on Leytonstone High Rd? - or at least a hippy coffee shop. It's called All you R3ad is L0ve.

I saw one on my way to/from the Red Lion recently.

They closed the Streatham Greggs and turned it into a hipster coffee bar.

London realness in a nutshell.

http://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2015/11/26/14/house1.jpg

Barnes yesterday...It's tough in the basement wars...http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/38million-house-duffy-lived-rules-6906251

Also Notting Hill earlier in the year

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2934601/Basement-rage-did-impresario-started-building-mega-den-5m-home-irate-duchess-countess-leading-socialite-feelings-run-deep.html

There's a definite (South) West London realness to that first one. Somewhere out there in Kensington and Chelsea there's a West London Clive Martin who has narrowed his entire output to harrumphing about giant basement extensions.

Interesting conversation at the weekend with guy who says the way, almost without exception, to solve poverty black spots is to run another bus line from there to somewhere good. Transport has such a huge effect and is often overlooked area of social policy.

All that said, Stratford is rammed with links now so uh

i guess peckham or hackney or clapton actually have a lot of nice houses, dunno if this is true for stratford, right?

That's definitely a key factor, it's the main reason Brockley went through the roof after the Overground opened. It had been a bit rough round the edges throughout most of my childhood but a lot of the houses were fantastic.

Stratford had/has a few but it's changed dramatically in 10 years (when I lived there) for obvious reasons - several more high-rises make it feel increasingly like a mini-city. It always felt further out than it really is but everything above and below it would be cheaper and just as close to things.

BFFs grandmother owned freeholds for a lot of places in Hackney, Dalston, Peckham, Camberwell and possibly Brockley - all built up around the same time and intended as middle-class areas, but by the time they were hers, those areas were declining because people were moving further out of London.

I think that standing on Camberwell Green and turning around would probably give you the starkest picture of gentrification anywhere in the capital, face south and it's full on organic bakery territory, look up towards Walworth Road and it's much the same as it's been for 20 years, except with a load more payday loan places. The density of WW2 bombing was a lot higher on the north side and that's still having an effect on the city today.

Camberwell Green has also got the Future Cities Catapult (technology centre) right next to the church, helping to 'transform cities on a global scale'.

As a place, Camberwell Green certainly feels like the centre of the global city zeitgeist.

Hang on - I'm posting crap, as ever - it's in Clerkenwell Green.

Camberwick Green iirc

wat if trumptonshire modarn day? fire brigade get closed down by boris and lord belborough opan cerial cafe

It has a large green space which is the centre of a gyratory. Very close to the combined railway station and Tramlink terminus bearing its name is the old sewage farm. The remains of this industrial site can still be seen. The sewage works is thought to be contaminated with heavy metals and is therefore unfit for building houses. The sewage farm has been converted into a country park (South Norwood Country Park), but many of the locals still know it as the sewage farm. The park falls within the boundaries of the London Borough of Croydon.

The former industrial estate on the south side of the railway track has closed down: it used to house the Muirhead and Twinlock factories, and can be seen from the air here. The companies vacated the sites and it remained derelict until the mid 1990s when Tesco built a new superstore. The former Bolloms paint factory site, on the opposite side of the road has been redeveloped into an industrial estate.

Elmers End station is a terminus for Tramlink services to Croydon as well as being on National Rail between London, Charing Cross and Hayes, Bromley.

The main Beckenham crematorium is situated between South Norwood Country Park and Birkbeck. Also known as Elmers End Cemetery, it contains the final resting places of such notable people as W.G. Grace, Frank Bourne, Thomas Crapper, Jerzy Wołkowicki, William Stanley and George Evans (VC) who won a Victoria Cross in 1916.[1]

^^^ Elmers End

also my grandma, RIP. Didn't know WG was there as well.

While the park is within the borough of Croydon, Da End itself is part of Bromley I think.

Real as opposed to what - virtual?
Or authentic and if so to what? Doesn't that imply an imposed standard which itself may be a little manufactured/fictional?
& if you can't put your hand through it is it therefore real?

Just had my watch ripped off my wrist this evening in Notting Hill, in what may be London's most gentrified street Is this UK's most gentrified street?

Reported it to the police station feeling a little like Mark from PeepShow.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/11/world/europe/uk-london-brexit.html realness talk

xpost to self:

Bacame a crime stat...

Robbery:
Includes offences where a person uses force or threat of force to steal

Current status:
Investigation complete; no suspect identified

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People I’d like to let loose without security in the middle of a London endz battle, because it would ~unite the mandem~ and we’d be well rid: il Douché.

has someone told him that The UK Knife Lobby and in general Knife Politics are not a strong voice over here!

Guns don't kill people, knives do.

you what mate

https://www.msglondonconsultation.com/

That is batshit even without considering the stadium round the corner and the O2 not far away.