pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

the resilient, outspoken, and autonomous attitude of rap

full quote is "the resilient, outspoken, and autonomous attitude of rap at this point," which I guess is in sharp contrast to the focus on codependency and meekness that has defined the rap music before this point.

almost startling to read "the 26-year-old poetry MFA holder" as a neutral descriptor

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And though the 26-year-old poetry MFA holder grew up enamored of the songwriting of Elliott Smith and Fiona Apple, her psychic compass can’t help but pull towards the resilient, outspoken, and autonomous attitude of rap at this point.

I think the writer's use of "at this point" here is to compare what Dupuis "grew up" with and what she is listening to now, not rap then and rap now. In a NY Times interview she also talked about listening to rap (as well as Pavement and Aaliyah) but as I recall the interviewer did not add any special descriptive terms to describe her listening-- it was just "hey what are you listening to?". Pretty standard question to ask any musician, even if its generic.

yeah, you're right, classic dangling modifier situation

I've written that phrase many times in student essays.

Does anyone actually listen to Speedy Ortiz or do they only exist in retweet form?

Glass houses, dude

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oh you made a "who cares" dig despite knowing your friends like this band, so i did the usual call out of irony, don't sweat it no harm meant

I think the four or five music media professionals I know that like this band don't count as "anyone" except in the most literal sense of the word

i know maura is a fan; she is a very literal someone by my estimation (and yrs of course)

Damn that's cold

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v much in character whiney

I didn't know indie rock band Speedy Ortiz had such evil power.

when I say "anyone" assume that I mean mean "anyone outside of our small insular circle jerk of music writers, former music writers and aspiring music writers, i.e. the number of people on the planet earth who would read a thinkpiece on "poptimism," i.e., totaling in the four if not three digits, i.e., not a significant part of the music-listening audience by any estimation"

which is why i could have posted "does anyone listen to whiney or does he just exist in RT form," but i felt that sounded less "check yourself" and more "fuck you" than i wanted

i'd think we want more critics would talk about groups they like without a large audience. i don't need everyone's two cents on music everyone's hearing.

We definitely need more and more written through articles on every derivative 90s throwback band from Philadelphia and Boston, good call

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happy 2 contribute

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would you respect them if i said they toured with malkmus?

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4e2yXplc74

see these are people they're cheering

I guess it is possible in this current click-driven media world that Rolling Stone, Pitchfork, the NY Times, and NPR would choose to highlight this indie-rock band even though no "real people" listen to them, or go to their gigs, but who knows. Its fine not to like them, but that's a different thing than pretending that the indie-rock crowd that does like them does not exist

write articles about Thaylobleu instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijf1iqsPlJw

or in addition, if you've got the bandwidth

basically, I want ppl to write about Thaylobleu

i have never made money from writing about music and clearly no one would want to be such a person, you are all disgusting misanthropes

but i listened to speedy ortiz this morning and they rule

they're pretty popular! they play all over the world. they tour like crazy.

it seems a lot of music writers use reddit now http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis/comments/33mijz/ama_were_speedy_ortiz_a_band_from_massachusetts/

MeagerSquib, I love that guy, we're writer bros, KillerVelocity and I had a conversation about poptimsim, oh man, so many familiar faces

Does anyone actually listen to Speedy Ortiz or do they only exist in retweet form?

― clikbait ikatowi (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 April 2015 20:33 (Yesterday) Permalink

Whiney, I do, and I don't have a Twitter account

Each of those 5 music writers who like Speedy Ortiz must have listened to their songs around a hundred thousand times on Spotify

their show at the bowery ballroom saturday is sold out though i know that place only fits like five music writers

"Only five music writers liked Speedy Ortiz, but each one who did went on to stream those songs a hundred thousand times." - Brian Eno

Shitty, gatecrashing "noise band" loves Rihanna now, Pavement-sounding indie rock band cites influence of hip-hop, rockists beware etc.

Shitty, gatecrashing "noise band" loves Rihanna now, Pavement-sounding indie rock band cites influence of hip-hop, rockists beware etc.

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, April 24, 2015 2:33 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

JFK BLOWN AWAY WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE TO SAY

Uh I think you guys misread Whiney a little. He was saying he knows of only 5 music writers that may listen to Speedy Ortiz. Not that their entire audience consists of those 5 writers.

I think he said their entire audience consisted of nobody, since those writers don't count as anybody

Well tbf it was a question not a statement, he wanted to know if anyone listened to this band, you guys checked for him, now he knows, excellent crowdsourcing Whiney

I think he means that if you're a music writer and you decide to listen to Speedy Ortiz your identity dissolves and you technically exist but you become a faceless entity with a lost, senselessly wandering soul that has no purpose yet yearns endlessly. You know because you look others in the eye and there is no recognition or connection. You drift forever and nothing can undo it.

tickets on sale now

"We played to a packed house. It was mostly ghosts."

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/753-drake-kanye-1d-and-the-rise-of-emotional-men/

close thread

that piece really could have used more than one reference point that predates 1999

Are we sure the writer predates 1999?

This thread is basically becoming a bunch of guys pushing/past 40 rolling their eyes at the work of twentysomething women...

*jamie foxx voice* "This is your conscience... Maybe Pitchfork isn't for you anymore?"

the world has turned and left y'all here