ok lets all shit our pants to something new: post 2005 horror film thread

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I just watched it tonight and that was some full-on triggering shit in the second half, I think I was crying for most of it.

i liked it - LOVED the look, lynch/twilight zone.....but i cant objectively talk about whether it was good or bad, it really fucked with me emotionally

Davis went into her Mum character so hard, so much of her anger felt and sounded so real... I am really, really blown away by how they really poked around in some difficult stuff re motherhood/child etc but jesus fuck it was rough going, i feel wrung out

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 April 2015 06:35 (nine years ago) link

'spring' was bad. 'the harvest' is quite good overall, but some of its flaws are quite hard to ignore - especially how pointless the character played by peter fonda is.

rusty_allen, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link

finally saw the Babadook. loved it, genuinely unsettling and with a thematic focus and empathy that feels rare to me in the genre. Also really appreciated that the film supports a psychological reading but not really a literal one - the monster is never "explained" in any realistic way, but is perfectly explicable as a reflection of the underlying psychological conflicts of the characters.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link

probably the best horror movie about parenting & grief since the peaks in the 70s (Rosemary's Baby, It's Alive, Don't Look Now)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link

Kotoko isn't really a horror but it might be quite harrowing for some parents to watch. It even used the two stars' (Cocco and Tsukamoto) own children

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link

Ok I'm about to watch the Babadook but if this turns out to be some word virus crapfest I'm taking this whole thread down with me.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 04:23 (nine years ago) link

Babadook was phenomenal.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 06:04 (nine years ago) link

glad to see some babadook love ITT after some backlash further upthread. i thought it was great.

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link

lol jj you can trust me not to recommend any word virus crapfests I swear

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link

I loved that the presence of the book is never explained, that there's a gradual (but significant) shift from the child being the threat to the mother being the *real* threat, that it captures the madness of sleep deprivation, that it doesn't devolve into generic haunted house tropes - so many great things about it

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link

Babadook was fantastic. Reminded me of Repulsion in some ways. Also loved the casting of the little boy. He looked like a spooky little Shelly Duvall.

Darin, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:00 (nine years ago) link

Yes he did! I straight up wanted to throttle him so many times in the front half of the movie

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link

Also, I am totally cool with its non-normative yet non-nihilistic ending

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link

loved his spring-loaded ball-throwing backpack

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

As I said above, he reminded me of Katherine Heigl a lot.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link

babadook ending is a def high point; the suggestion that those hard memories still demand their pound of flesh but over time they find a kind of equilibrium and we learn to cope with the sadness and horror that is our life through routine, faith and patience
thought "It Follows" is very much in the same lane

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link

I haven't seen It Follows yet, but it's on my list obviously

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

btw, A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night just upped on netflix streaming
http://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/A_Girl_Walks_Home_Alone_at_Night/70301280
not too much horror but worth a watch for sure. some indelible images.

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

There might be a better place to put this but I can't think of one: the Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark book series is getting a documentary film.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link

xps yeah, good comparison b/w It Follows and Babadook endings

Nhex, Thursday, 23 April 2015 07:02 (nine years ago) link

From a supernatural perspective, I like how the Babadook monster is too strong to meet a demise. There's no ectoplasmic ray gun or special chant which will make him go away.

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Thursday, 23 April 2015 09:13 (nine years ago) link

in both films, the monster is emotional (and/or sexual) injury: the darkest part of our soul's makeup given legs
would support a bunch more of magical realism horror films; preferably with fewer hoary genre tropes

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 April 2015 14:25 (nine years ago) link

btw, A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night just upped on netflix streaming
http://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/A_Girl_Walks_Home_Alone_at_Night/70301280
not too much horror but worth a watch for sure. some indelible images.

^^ i guess it's the kind of movie that horror buffs and arthouse freaks will hate while everyone else gets on board. great direction and photography and capable of conveying some sort of hopelessness and dread, but veers too much towards a pale indie-sensibility (how music is used, for example).

rusty_allen, Thursday, 23 April 2015 15:15 (nine years ago) link

i wouldn't argue with that? it's not a world changing film but there are several great ideas, beautifully shot and that's good enough for me.
wish it had something a bit more solid at its core

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 April 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link

i actually liked the movie. there were a couple of moments where i couldn't quite stomach the romantic naivety, but not enough to ruin it.

rusty_allen, Friday, 24 April 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link

It Follows was dope

Unfriended made me glad not to be 18 anymore

Neanderthal, Sunday, 26 April 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link

the latter was maybe the first time I've ever seen the party game "Never Have I Ever" used as a horror conceit.

some of the more tense scenes involved furious mouse clicking

Neanderthal, Sunday, 26 April 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link

Please tell me the entire movie is shown through video chat windows

Nhex, Monday, 27 April 2015 13:11 (nine years ago) link

watched 'Sleep Tight' last night. Solid and creepy as heck. Excellently made.

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Monday, 27 April 2015 13:20 (nine years ago) link

Nhex
Posted: April 27, 2015 at 8:11:02 AM
Please tell me the entire movie is shown through video chat windows

This exists btw, I just can't remember the name at the moment. Megan is Missing maybe?

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Monday, 27 April 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link

I think that's literally what Unfriended is!

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 27 April 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link

Well not just video chat but it's all on a computer screen I think?

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 27 April 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link

yeah i think so

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Monday, 27 April 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e3hVmpGzl7A

Anyone else really excited by this trailer? I haven't been this impressed by a film trailer in fuck knows how many years.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 April 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link

In case the link disappears it's Tale Of Tales by Matteo Garrone

Based on a 17th century collection of fairy tales by Italian author Giambattista Basile, the film weaves realistic and fantastical elements together into three different storylines, one of which involves Salma Hayek eating the heart of a giant beast. Vincent Cassel, John C. Reilly and Toby Jones also star.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 April 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link

Please tell me the entire movie is shown through video chat windows

― Nhex, Monday, April 27, 2015 2:11 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it is!

it's kinda a strange film - an embarrassing Youtube video of a high school girl having fouled herself appears at least four times with more footage each time.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 27 April 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link

it should have been called "teenagers are horrible and should be killed pt 1"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 27 April 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

Reilly Jones and Hayek is a promising cast

xxp

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 April 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

For me it's most promising to see a fantasy film that seems to respect fully functioning eyeballs. A film that embraces visuals? What a great idea. Okay, yes there are lots of good looking films but rarely in the genres I want to see.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 April 2015 23:36 (nine years ago) link

looks pretty cool, rag

Nhex, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 03:21 (nine years ago) link

"Robert Adam Gilmour
Posted: April 3, 2015 at 1:50:31 PM
Just watched ABCs Of Death 2, hard to believe but it's even several steps down from the last one. The only thing I liked was a Robert Morgan animation. There are a few that aren't terrible and there are some kinda interesting things (a women pregnant with a fully developed child, kids entering a world like Masters Of The Universe, a Bill Plympton animation with heads fighting) here and there but there's not much point going on about them. There is going to be a third one, and unless some really good directors are announced for it, I'll avoid. I could have swore this one had good directors initially attached who must have pulled out.

The tagline is "Some people never learn" and the end credits have a note stating that they love the internet hate. I feel stronger than ever about what I was arguing in the worst films thread: low budget horror films are often far worse than any blockbuster or prestige film. Regardless of inept craft, the stench of the banal lowbrow smugness is harder to stomach than mainstream stupidity and emptiness.
What's particularly sad is that I'd even prefer a soulless, cynically made film to one made by people personally invested in their proudly shallow ambitionless fare.

Why have a little genre ghetto when it's used to nurture such crap? I like any sort of horror done well enough but there's so much shit in the gore/sleaze area that I think maybe it's actually necessary that the Weird Fiction/Dark Fantasy/Ghost Story area drifts away from the shared "horror" umbrella. I'm so sick of having to wade through that sort of Xtreme crap to get to what I want. If a different genre name had stuck, maybe things would be a lot better?"

I've been sitting on this for a while, but other than agreeing with the initial spark point of abcs of death 2 being pretty much crap (though I felt the first one was surprisingly good), the rest of this argument really frustrates me. I'm just tired of the self-loathing horror fan as archetype maybe?

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 7 May 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link

Maybe my rant unfairly characterises the audience and creators of some of this stuff but I think there is a portion that is roughly what I described. I don't know how much self-loathing comes into what they do.
I generally try my best to avoid making fun of people or aggression but here I found it very difficult to say what I meant without being insulting.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 7 May 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

I have a feeling I've completely missed your point but please tell me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 7 May 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link

Also, I really liked the Cattet/Forzani and Hardcastle pieces from the first film a great deal.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 7 May 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

i really was genuinely frightened by It Follows, it didn't help that I actually heard someone clattering about at the back of my house whilst I was watching it. One of my favourite moments was the debunking of this "electrocuting people" (or in this case an ill advised attempt to electrocute a sexually transmitted curse demon) in water motif, which has no credible place in any movie made in the RCBO era. [SPOILER] "It doesn't work!" No shit Sherlock, this isn't 1900 - the circuit breaker ain't a fucking nail these days! Sorry if this is a bit normish, but the qualified electrician in me salutes this electrical realism.

xelab, Thursday, 7 May 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link

i loved that bit because it was TOTALLY a horror film/teenager-concieved plan that backfires miserably. that scene was fantastic

Nhex, Friday, 8 May 2015 03:54 (eight years ago) link

It Follows was terrifying. its conceit was clever - forced the affected characters to analyze benign movement and determine if it was friendly or hostile quite quickly, all without sounding insane to their friends.

for a guy who already has a phobia of being approached by strangers in public, it was even more terrifying.

also liked that the cast wasn't full of 'generic shitty people', and you could genuinely root for them all, for the most part.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 May 2015 15:24 (eight years ago) link

as opposed to Unfriended, where I was so fucking glad when characters were dispensed

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 8 May 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

latest stuff i saw. not a good run :

'lord of tears' was a somewhat interesting folk/ghost story almost ruined by tacky dialogue and some poor performances. props for the owlman, tho.

'kristy' is a sleep-inducing slasher/survival horror. basically the final girl running from a group of hooligans (wouldn't even call them a cult) for almost the whole movie. totally pointless. 'preservation' was slightly better, but the influence of 'ils' is becoming obnoxious.

'clown' seemed like it could be fun and tried a new approach to the clown mystique, but drags along in whole the family drama. starts good, just gets boring.

really liked 'what we do in the shadows' btw - it's a comedy, i know.

rusty_allen, Friday, 8 May 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link


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