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bad loss obv but cmon, monte carlo -- Wawrkinka was booed as he left the court.

johnny crunch, Thursday, 16 April 2015 13:08 (nine years ago) link

MONFILS

DJP, Thursday, 16 April 2015 13:48 (nine years ago) link

Hingis is going to play SINGLES in Fed Cup. She's so beating Aga

lex pretend, Friday, 17 April 2015 11:25 (nine years ago) link

meanwhile, so glad someone finally gave us the STATZ on the Nole smash: https://twitter.com/tennisabstract/status/588735317626105857

lex pretend, Friday, 17 April 2015 11:35 (nine years ago) link

Hingis playing singles.

Hingis playing singles. I don't know whether I'm going to hyperventilate or get hugely aroused.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Friday, 17 April 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link

Amazing scenes in Québec. Bouchard refused to shake her Fed Cup opponent's hand pre-match AGAIN - if you're going to protest tennis etiquette what a bizarre and petty hill to die on. Then she got upstaged by a junior compatriot and then flopped to Dulgheru, and then this happened

https://twitter.com/ProdigyRep/status/589552319135621122

:D

lex pretend, Saturday, 18 April 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

okay lol

also singles didn't go so well for Hingis, huh

DJP, Saturday, 18 April 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link

The first set was competitive from the highlights. No doubt Hingis couldn't physically have won in 3 so why worry about the second set. She did better than the other alternatives, even against Slumpwanska. But she should stick to doubles.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Sunday, 19 April 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link

first set was interesting esp in that it highlighted how different their styles are - the "Radwanska is the new Hingis" line was never shown up more. Hingis taking everything as early as possible, totally the aggressor. She could definitely have taken the first set but her stamina was never great even in her prime and is inadequate to grinding three sets out with Aga these days...

Serena has just gone a set down to Errani o_0

lex pretend, Sunday, 19 April 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link

That Hingis stamina vs Ursula

abcfsk, Sunday, 19 April 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Lisicki just hit 17 UEs and five DFs in a 0-6 set to Diyas

lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link

LMAO. Double bagel. Such fighting spirit at the end there.

Diyas hit some great dropshots on the rare occasions she needed to, but the funny thing is that every time Lisicki made her move her own terrible clay movement was exposed. Not that Lisicki had any idea of that.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 13:39 (eight years ago) link

Loved Keothavong's snark too. "On the bright side, Lisicki has made it past the hour mark. [Beat] With the aid of the bathroom break."

lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

awesome to see Bencic save three consecutive MPs vs Goerges yesterday too. I don't think her form is anywhere near what she showed last year but she's slowly getting it back; nice revenge for that embarrassing AO loss.

lex pretend, Thursday, 23 April 2015 06:34 (eight years ago) link

I see that time Petra took off for "exhaustion" two months into the year has really paid off. Losing to BRENGLE, seriously?

lex pretend, Thursday, 23 April 2015 11:46 (eight years ago) link

Garcia shanked three overheads in that last game

groovemaaan, Friday, 24 April 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link

So Martina out as A Rad's coach. That didn't last long. Decided that being a solid top ten player albeit a passive one was maybe her best bet after all.

pandemic, Saturday, 25 April 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link

Woz-Halep was excellent fare. Woz in 2014 end of season form.

pandemic, Saturday, 25 April 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

kinda wild theyre showing college tennis on sec network & theres neighboring cts where two matches are 5-5 in the third set

johnny crunch, Saturday, 25 April 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

the spectators on the shared side btwn the cts are turning back and forth to watch each match point by point

johnny crunch, Saturday, 25 April 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link

KERBER

lex pretend, Sunday, 26 April 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

God, those match points were tense...excellent final overall, Kerber's entire 11-match winning streak has been v enjoyable to watch. She has such an entertaining game.

lex pretend, Sunday, 26 April 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

wow @ vesely v ggl

johnny crunch, Sunday, 26 April 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link

end of Thiem/Pospisil was good - had been a somewhat underwhelming servebotting affair for most of the last set, some huge winners from both towards the end of the TB though.

watched some of 17yo Andrey Rublev beating Dzumhur in Istanbul earlier, impressed with his game - especially his BH, and also his attitude on return

on an unstreamed court in Prague, Bencic just saved six consecutive MPs from 0-6 down in the second set TB against Konjuh - their first senior meeting (Konjuh won their only junior one)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

Christ. Konjuh blew another three MPs serving for the match at 5-4 in the third, saved three serving down 5-6, finally won the TB 7-3 on her 10th MP.

If they both get to the top of the game, this epic match that nobody saw will have been the start of it.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

so annoying that this match got bumped to a non-televised court bc of the rain delay

i'm glad that thiem won that match but it's not a good sign that he struggles against pospisil on clay. the tiebreak was great though.

groovemaaan, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

Talking of 17yos, Frances Tiafoe of USA seems to be making a decent attack on the Challenger level: reached quarterfinal two weeks ago in Sarasota (out to Buchanan), semifinal last week (out to McGee), and just now knocked top seed Bagnis out in the first round in Tallahassee.

BTW (you may possibly all be aware of this already, but just in case): Most (men's) Challenger events have a court or two streaming continuously for free in decent quality at http://livestream.com/atp.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 01:17 (eight years ago) link

Safarova is truly a mystery. *2-4, 0-40 down in the final set vs Smitkova, she plays:

- Five perfect service points to avoid the double break. 3-4*
- Four impeccable defensive points with Smitkova absolutely pummeling the ball at her to break back to love. *4-4
- So much momentum! Then: DF, basic error, shanked BH two feet in front of her, DF. 4-5*
- Then Smitkova serves it out, albeit it took her 5 MPs. Safarova had two BPs; on one Smitkova served an ace, on the other Safarova hit a baseball home run overhead

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 10:16 (eight years ago) link

Notwithstanding Safarova, CZE gets six out of eight QFists in Prague and will have three out of four SFists. That's a successful home event, then!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

Rublev very impressive but that hair

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

Continuing on the theme of youngsters: I had a feeling I'd been seeing an unusual amount of under-18's doing OK lately in the men's tournaments, and looking more closely at the data, this appears to be the case. I chose a pretty low bar for "doing OK", in order to get a decent amount of data: winning a first-round match in the main draw of an ATP main tour or Challenger tournament (without the aid of a retirement, walkover, disqualification or forfeit).

This chart shows, for each of the last ten years, the percentage of such 1st-round matches that were won by players under 18 (with the caveat that the calculated ages may possibly be up to a week off or so):

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/olem/u18winners_zpssqkcqatl.jpg

Sure, the numbers are low, especially for 2015, which is only 1/3 complete, but it still seems this trend is real. Part of the effect, of course, is that the youngsters of 2011 and 2012 were hardly Any Good At All; in 2011 only two Challenger first-round matches were won by under-18's, in 2012 only ONE (!) out of 2281 (and none for the 1169 completed main-tour first-round matches).

In case you were wondering, the U18 players who have won a 1st round match so far in 2015 are:

Andrey Rublev (1 x ATP 1000, 1 x ATP 500, 2 x ATP 250, 1 x Challenger)
Alexander Zverev (1 x ATP 1000, 1 x Challenger)
Frances Tiafoe (3 x Challenger)
Orlando Luz (2 x Challenger)
Tommy Paul (2 x Challenger)
Duck Hee Lee (1 x Challenger)
Omar Jasika (1 x Challenger)
Roman Safiullin (1 x Challenger)
Stefan Kozlov (1 x Challenger)

anatol_merklich, Friday, 1 May 2015 06:48 (eight years ago) link

For the five previous years, for reference:

2014:
Borna Coric (1 x Slam, 1 x ATP 500, 1 x ATP 250, 6 x Challenger)
Thanasi Kokkinakis (1 x Slam)
Alexander Zverev (1 x ATP 500, 5 x Challenger)
Jared Donaldson (3 x Challenger)
Omar Jasika (2 x Challenger)
Amine Ahouda, Antonio Cembellin Prieto, Christian Garin, Dmitry Popko, Hyeon Chung, Joao Menezes, Juan Pablo Ficovich, Karen Khachanov, Marc Polmans, Sasi Kumar Mukund, Stefan Kozlov (1 x Challenger each)

2013:
Karen Khachanov (2 x ATP 250, 1 x Challenger)
Christian Garin (1 x ATP 250, 4 x Challenger)
Gianluigi Quinzi (4 x Challenger)
Thanasi Kokkinakis (4 x Challenger)
Nick Kyrgios (2 x Challenger)
Bastian Malla, Blake Mott, Borna Coric, Francisco Bahamonde, Hyeon Chung, Marcelo Tebet Filho, Nicholas Horton, Patrick Ciorcila, Wayne Montgomery (1 x Challenger each)

2012:
Thiago Moura Monteiro (1 x Challenger)

2011:
Joao Pedro Sorgi, Bruno Sant'Anna (1 x Challenger each)

2010:
Bernard Tomic (1 x Slam, 1 x ATP 250, 3 x Challenger)
Ryan Harrison (1 x ATP 1000, 2 x Challenger)
Denis Kudla (1 x ATP 250)
Filip Krajinovic (2 x Challenger)
Tiago Fernandes (2 x Challenger)
Daniel Berta, Dominic Thiem, Micke Kontinen, Suk-Young Jeong (1 x Challenger each)

anatol_merklich, Friday, 1 May 2015 07:17 (eight years ago) link

It was only a few years ago that we had one teenager in the ATP top 200. Really pleased to see that Duck Hee Lee seems to be happening; he got a bit of notice as a junior because he's deaf.

lex pretend, Friday, 1 May 2015 08:01 (eight years ago) link

boy, the Madrid draw is stacked. Vika/Venus R1, winner probably gets Bencic in R2 then Serena in R3. Sharapova opens against Bacsinszky (albeit Bacsinszky's dominant form seemed absent in Marrakech this week), Pliskova or Garcia in R3. Makarova opens against Kuznetsova, winner probably gets Muguruza in R2 and a projected R3 vs Kerber, who herself opens against Stosur, then probably Keys in R2.

Still, my favourite R1 is definitely Bouchard against Strycova. Handshake lesson imminent!

http://i.imgur.com/0avw8v7.gif

lex pretend, Friday, 1 May 2015 10:25 (eight years ago) link

Federer is totally losing this Istanbul final to Cuevas. Book it.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Sunday, 3 May 2015 00:11 (eight years ago) link

Strycova d. Bouchard 0-6 6-3 6-3.

It's official. Bouchard is not the new Sharapova. She's the new Hantuchova. Barbie <3 :D :D

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Sunday, 3 May 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

Impressed by the sheer variety of Bouchard's six-match losing streak.

IW QF, 76 57 46 to Lesia Tsurenko: losing to a qualifier from a double break up in the third, with a wide open draw ahead of her
Miami R2, 06 67 to Tatjana Maria: getting bagelled by a #113-ranked qualifier
Charleston R2, 16 36 to Lauren Davis: thrashed by one of the smallest and weapon-free journeywomen on Tour
Fed Cup, 46 46 to Alexandra Dulgheru: self-inflicted post-handshakegate humiliation in front of her home crowd
Fed Cup, 64 46 16 to Andreea Mitu: ditto, except to a #104-ranked substitute and from a set and a break up
Madrid R1, 60 36 36 to Barbora Strycova: handing out the bagel this time...and still losing

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 May 2015 14:01 (eight years ago) link

can't find a working stream but I'm sure Kvitova losing a set to Govortsova is going to be some champagne tennis, right.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Sunday, 3 May 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link

Kyrgios's attitude was so pissy today. Not the slightest danger of him even putting up a fight let alone saving 9 MPs vs Gasquet this time

lex pretend, Sunday, 3 May 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

typical Sharapova today. comical DF to give Garcia BP, then she takes enough time before the next point that Garcia could have taken in a sightseeing tour of Madrid and got back in time to return - no warning, of course - and serves an ace

lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 11:08 (eight years ago) link

1-5 down in the TB, Serena casually reels off 6 straight points for the set. That Azarenka DF at 5-4 was closer to the baseline...

lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link

I wondered if this Serena/Vika match might be entertaining based on the score so tuned in at 5-5. It's pretty awful, though. Though Azarenka losing that tie-break from 5-1 up, 5-7 at that, was pretty funny.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link

x-post. I mean if Serena had been a little bit less casual when she moved forward on those two service points she lost...

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 13:08 (eight years ago) link

The hell happened there

lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

Azarenka serving at 6-5 40-0, having saved a MP down 4-5...

Serena huge FH winner, 40-15
Serena huge return, 40-30

AZARENKA THREE CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE FAULTS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

TB!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

lol, amazing

Serena wins 12 of the last 13 points from triple MP down

lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

loooool

DJP, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 15:15 (eight years ago) link

Vikapaws in full effect, really sad I wasn't able to watch this live

DJP, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

Azarenka totally thought she'd served an ace on the first of those DFs too

And she'd served so well ALL match!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link

So much hilarity in this fed-kyrgios match, from nick's total meltdown in the first set TB to roger declaring "we need a clown for this circus" :D

groovemaaan, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link


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