i would go to that wedding
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
Honestly at " I choose to be heterosexual" reporter should have just made "O RLY?" face and walked away.
― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link
Sadly he did not choose to be a jerk that was something he was born with.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link
I'm imagining there being this big red alarm in Heaven that goes off any time a gay couple touches a wedding cake and God waking up pissed.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 14:58 (nine years ago) link
what it really boils down to are many of these extremely Conservative Christians are just upset at their narrowing sphere of influence in the country when in reality some of the "rights" they feel they've lost should never have been granted to them in the first place.
tho they don't understand the concept of "strict scrutiny" either so
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 15:00 (nine years ago) link
LOL
― in an awkward manor (doo dah), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
http://s3-media3.fl.yelpassets.com/bphoto/EKqgNa14Wa4PhpV-DEq8ng/l.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
So we got this news
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/04/01/indiana-rfra-deal-sets-limited-protections-for-lgbt/70766920/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 15:34 (nine years ago) link
ILX has eaten two of my attempts to post here but I'll give it another shot. Briefly, I boomeranged pretty quickly from knee-jerk 'burn the whole state to the ground' disgust towards this legislation to astonishment and pride over the booming opposition. I grew up in the midst of a lot of unfortunate bigotry and general small-mindedness (and god knows it's still pervasive, particularly in the southern part of the state) but I've also seen Indiana make a lot of progress over the years. I was just marveling the other day about the number of people who went to my small, rural high school and who have subsequently come out and are still living in the same general area. I cannot imagine that situation being in any way tolerable twenty years ago. I have no desire to ever move back, but I appreciate feeling like I don't have to hate and distance myself from Indiana.
― Gimme Gimme Pop Secret (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
I hear ya, O.L.
I don't want to pat my fellow Arkansans too hard on the back today. I look back on some of my past "Well, the state might be blood red, but there's like at least a dozen of us who meet for coffee every Tuesday," posts with twinges of regret. We took more than just a few steps backward yesterday, but –
I am inspired by the Arkansas folk who put up this installation on the steps of our Capitol:
http://i.imgur.com/DB89jrG.jpg
Or the Arkansans who lined the halls and yelled "Shame on you!" at the legislators who walked through them:
http://i.imgur.com/4hoIaZW.jpg
Or even the woman on the left who was a national name in the political arena long before the guy up on the wall was:
http://i.imgur.com/dVUyR8f.jpg
(Dr. Jocelyn Elders, former U.S. Surgeon General, under the portrait of Skinny Mike Huckabee)
The crazy people got their way, but quite honestly, I don't think they'd be interested in pulling the same stunt again.
― pplains, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
I guess Republicans have been so vocal about Sharia Law invading the US because they wanted to do it here first.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link
Though wait
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/04/01/govt-and-business-leaders-object-to-ark-religion-bill/70757942/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link
Repeal these altogether. I do not want to have to join The Church of Walmart when I am 70 and need a job.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:42 (nine years ago) link
The public outcries in both states to these legislations has been a welcome surprise. Not that I didn't know that there would be pockets of people in both states that would feel that way but more than I expected.
maybe we're finally nearing the time when martyr-complexing doesn't carry the weight it used to
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link
Don't understand how you can call yourself a Christian and be for denying people food. That's like the main thing Jesus did!
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link
Not deny people food, but giving it out.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:58 (nine years ago) link
Bible has lots in it about not being lazy, maybe all employees should work 20 hour days.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link
Is anyone organizing Indiana businesses not run by bigots? It would be nice to isolate the bigots - to see one hateful pizzeria surrounded by shops and restaurants with uniform "everyone welcome" signs.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:07 (nine years ago) link
Folks actually in favor of these bills seem to be a crazy confluence of "gay marriage = endtimes" zealots, and anti-government types of the opinion that any business owner should be able to refuse service for any reason because it's THEIR business.
I agree the huge outpouring of criticism has been surprising, and when it's not just "Hollywood types" but CEOs, it's really heartening to me. Quite honestly I feel that people like that pizza family upthread are a very small minority. There are plenty of Indiana businesses not on board with this imo.
― Losing swag by the second (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
Indiana "turning blue" will not keep the American population from doing so this century
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:25 (nine years ago) link
So Tweedy cancelled a show in Indianapolis, punishing his fans for living in a city which does have anti-sexual discrimination laws, because it's in a state which doesn't.
The Arkansas bill explicitly raises religious concerns(in the business sense) over everything else, incl. civil rights.
Don Allred @0wlred
The Supreme Court's expected ruling on gay marriage won't be enough. We need an updated Civil Rights Act ( ditto Voting Rights Act btw).0 retweets 0 favorites6:30 PM -
― dow, Thursday, 2 April 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link
um cancelling the show is good, not bad, it's the message that counts right now
― sleeve, Thursday, 2 April 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link
good publicity
― dow, Thursday, 2 April 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link
So Tweedy cancelled a show in Indianapolis, punishing his fans
Most played:Chicago (63)SF Bay Area (9)Los Angeles (8)New York (8)Denver (7)
http://www.songkick.com/artists/490682-jeff-tweedy
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 April 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, and Kansas hasn't gotten enough attention: Gov. Sam Brownback removed anti- gay bias protection from state hiring regulations.
― dow, Thursday, 2 April 2015 00:48 (nine years ago) link
Just go to Louisville it's less than 2 hours away.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 April 2015 01:00 (nine years ago) link
Or take Megabus and it's less than $12 round trip.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 2 April 2015 01:03 (nine years ago) link
just go to the slippery noodle instead
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 April 2015 01:04 (nine years ago) link
from the memories pizza yelp page
The liberals ask for tolerance and give none. I hate you more than ISIS.Great pizza.
― rb (soda), Thursday, 2 April 2015 01:13 (nine years ago) link
"the liberals just don't tolerate our stupid bigoted beliefs, what hypocrites"
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 2 April 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link
My wife is speaking at a conference in Indiana next week and suddenly our state has stopped paying for any travel to Indiana. The conference was already paying travel and lodging, and angry and embarrassed conference organizers contacted her today and said they'd cover the per diem that her university was no longer going to pay for. I'm curious what the vibe at the conference is going to be like.
― joygoat, Thursday, 2 April 2015 04:25 (nine years ago) link
The law is now "fixed," but a law professor explains the basic employment etc law problems still in place, pretty much across most(or a lot) of the USA:http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/04/02/indiana_religious_freedom_law_the_fix_still_doesn_t_protect_gay_hoosiers.html?wpsrc=fol_tw
― dow, Thursday, 2 April 2015 22:51 (nine years ago) link
@BryanJFischerThe pizzeria owners are the new Anne Frank. Hiding in a house in fear for their lives.
― mookieproof, Friday, 3 April 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link
lol what
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 April 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link
Hiding in fear until the check for half a million comes from wingnuttia
http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/3/8339383/indiana-memories-pizza-religious-freedom-crowdfunding-campaign
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 3 April 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link
ah yes, these Anne Frank like situations all play out the same way
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 April 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
tbf Anne Frank got some really mean Yelp reviews
― Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Friday, 3 April 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
Now the gays are going to go to some other pizza place to cater their wedding.
― Vic Perry, Friday, 3 April 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link
i am opposed to pizza marriage.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 April 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
next thing you know pizzas will be marrying calzones, think of the children
― sleeve, Friday, 3 April 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1484956/henry_betty_fite.jpg
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 April 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
Wilco uncanceled their show today.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 April 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
I love how so many of the people in their comments say things along the lines of "politics and music shouldn't mix" and I'm like WHERE HAVE YOU LIVED FOR THE LAST MILLION YEARS?
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 April 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
I love how so many of the people in their comments say things along the lines of "politics and music shouldn't mix" and I'm like WHERE HAVE YOU LIVED FOR THE LAST MILLION YEARSARE THE NEW PROTEST SINGERS?
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 3 April 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
Haha everyone already cancelled their babysitters and now the Wilco show is back on? Some teens are gonna be so pissed.
― groundless round (La Lechera), Friday, 3 April 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
Did Wilco explain why they are un-cancelling? Is money just too important to let go?
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 4 April 2015 00:33 (nine years ago) link
My guess was that they are only punishing their fans, who likely don't support these laws anyways.
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 4 April 2015 00:47 (nine years ago) link
But won't the money their fans spend that night go into the local economy and end up in the coffers of oppressive state power?
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 4 April 2015 00:52 (nine years ago) link
Perhaps they uncanceled because the law got sligtly rewritten?
― Frederik B, Saturday, 4 April 2015 01:04 (nine years ago) link
The official statement:
We consider the changes to Indiana’s RFRA a good first step toward creating the sort of welcoming environment we encourage everywhere, so we’re reinstating our May 7 show at The Murat, which we canceled earlier this week. To quote an Indiana University statement from yesterday, "religious liberty and equal protection under the law are both cornerstones of our democracy and they should not be in conflict with each other.” Well said, IU.Now for the practical stuff: Tickets purchased through Ticketmaster or The Murat are still valid. If you purchased your ticket during the Wilcoworld pre-sale, you will be contacted directly regarding repurchase. If your plans have changed for whatever reason or if you no longer want to attend the show, refunds are available at your point of purchase.We’ve been putting on shows with our neighbors in Indiana for more than 20 years and are happy to continue that at the Murat in May. We'll also donate a portion of the proceeds from this show to organizations fighting to build on the progress we hope this change makes in Indiana and beyond. More details soon.Love, Wilco
Now for the practical stuff: Tickets purchased through Ticketmaster or The Murat are still valid. If you purchased your ticket during the Wilcoworld pre-sale, you will be contacted directly regarding repurchase. If your plans have changed for whatever reason or if you no longer want to attend the show, refunds are available at your point of purchase.
We’ve been putting on shows with our neighbors in Indiana for more than 20 years and are happy to continue that at the Murat in May. We'll also donate a portion of the proceeds from this show to organizations fighting to build on the progress we hope this change makes in Indiana and beyond. More details soon.Love, Wilco
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 April 2015 01:12 (nine years ago) link