funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

where?

― Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2)

Marcus sez:

I AM NOT SUPPORTING FUNKY MC TRACKS THAT ARE REALLY GRIME TUNES OR OTHER PEOPLES TUNES THAT YOU HAVE MC'ED OVER AND ARE NOW PASSING OFF AS YOUR OWN.

IF YOU CANT MAKE IT AS AN MC YOU WILL DEFINATELY NOT MAKE IT AS AN ARTIST!
IF YOU ARE AN ARTIST YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER!
AND IF YOU ARE AN MC WHO IS JUMPING ON THIS TING YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING OR "LEAVE IT ALONE".

IM NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE ALL SHIT IM JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IT FUNKY TO REALLY ESTABLISH OUR SCENE AS AT THE MOMENT THERE IS NO CONSITENCY OR ANY SORT OF LEVELS WITH REGARDS TO THE MC TRACKS FOR INSTANCE DONAEO & VERSATILLE IN COMPARISON TO THE CRAP THAT HAS BEEN SENT TO MY INBOX.

THE HEAD, SHOULDERS, KNEES & TOES TRACK WAS ORIGINAL SO IT WORKED BUT EVEN THEY STRUGGLE TO PERFORM TO THE LEVEL OF AN ESTABLISHED MC ON A LIVE SET.

MY ONE OFF MC SHOWS ARE LIVE "RADIO SHOWS" TO SHOWCASE THE TALENT FROM WITHIN OUR SCENE AND ARE NOT TO BE TAKEN AS A GO AHEAD TO INCOURAGE OTHER DJ'S/MC'S WHO LACK IDEAS OR TURN THIS SCENE INTO A TALENTLESS HYPEFEST.

P.S

I HAVE NOT AND WILL NEVER PLAY THEM ON MY SHOW!!!!!"

http://ukfunky.free-forums.org/marcus-nastys-view-on-mcs-vt1252.html

+ further...

http://queenofsheba84.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/its-not-funky-its-whack/
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=131519630155
http://www.itsalotmagazine.com/ (p32)

this is funny:

http://profile.ak.facebook.com/object3/1045/64/n131519630155_4038.jpg

OMG, on the new Mak 10/Shantie set Ach (Benjamin?) posted on the dissensus thread (and btw welcome back Shantie MC!), the second track is JAWDROPPING. I think it's a remix of J-Will's "Deja Vu". Sweet but dark hi-tech robo-pop, with a rhythm as memorable as the tune.

just swinging by to register the fact i saw Harry Hill singing Bongo Jam on Tv Burp in a funky house related gag last night.

i wish i knew what more of these tracks were called. im def converted full on to this now though. need to get down to more funky events.

I'm Ach. I've just checked out the J-Will original, that's a very good video, especially with Wretch who I've always liked. Pretty sure the funky mix is by Soul Tonic Sound System. I can't find their myspace as yet but there are a number of tracks by them on ukfunky.com

Thanks Ach! Soul Tonic Sound System did an excellent remix of a Doctor tune too I think - it's on one of Faze's mixes. I can totally believe this remix is by them.

I know that i've touted the secret black dog --> uk funky connection before, but Mos' Wanted's "Frozen" (on the new Marcus Nasty set) really does sound like something off Temple of Transparent Balls. But it's also smashing. I like how a lot of the time this music seems utterly oblivious to its own oddness.

was listening to a dj ng set on rinse the other day, with mc versatile (i think). he seemed a bit self conscious about some of the softness of the tunes that were being played (it was more typical funky house rather than funky), constantly repeating 'this is the new garage' in between almost defending the tunes (if only to make himself feel better lol). i like 'funky' but half the other shows on rinse seem to be playing the usual watery proper funky house. makes you remember this this sound is still in its early stages.

im not sure that that tune is the SoulTonic Soundsystem one thats been knocking about, the one on the Mak 10 set seems more grimey and weird, might be though im not sure

http://www.myspace.com/soultonicsoundsystem

latest Footloose show is sounding stupidly good, loads of new stuff sounding great, just skipped through a bit then dropped into the more epic bit towards the end, Mercurial Myrmidon - Moving Shapes is so so so good, so euphoric! stunning vibes and such a disgraceful bassline. i nearly lost it on the tube today. i swear at this rate i'm going to be a born-again Christian by Christmas

there are some UK guys developing a really epic and deep but totally ruff approach that I am enjoying a great deal, kind of crosses over with some of the stuff Louie Vega and Kenny Dope are doing here and there and some of the stuff on Strictly / Defected...

still hanker for that Chunky Bizzle tune that was getting rinsed in the summer

thanks to Algierstwin on dissensus for the rip...

http://www.zshare.net/download/58148955bd92fe2e/

0200 - 0230

El B – I Feel
Black Russian – Soul Gypsy
Unknown – Broken Soul
Monsta Boy ft Dwaine Hayden – Sorry (Illmana Remix)
H2O ft Miss Fire - Falling
Platnum – Trippin’ (Ill Blu Remxi)
DJ Naughty – Darker Days

0230 - 0330

Plague A' Lero with Reverie Soul – Don’t Be Shy
Rockwell D & Gappy Ranks – Pull Up Dat
All The King’s Men ft Leo The Lion – All My Lions
Doc Daneeka – Deadly Rhythm
DJ Lil Silva – Different
Miss Fire ft Van Cleef – Lost in Your House
A Little Bit Funky - Looney Tunes Vol. 2

Producer Spotlight – Invasion Records (OB, DJ Fingerprint and Tadow)
Addictive – Domino Effect (OB Remix)
OB – Can She
Platnum – Trippin’ (Ill Blu Remix)
Tadow – What is House?
Tadow – Free
OB – Emergency Room
Fingerprint – Night Time

0330 – 0430

Todz & Beatz ft Branjae – Mystery
Diamond ft Sophia Romian – Fly Away
Illmana ft Chloe – Burning
Jade Smallz – I Found You
Seany B ft Lil London – Mr Seduction
Teddra Moses – Be Your Girl (DJ Perempay & Dee Soulful Mix)
Aphrodisiax – My Getaway
Temps Neviks – 4 The Love
Karizma ft Spen – 4 The Love (Groucho Marxx Remix)
Mercurial Myrmidon – Moving Shapes
MajorNote$ – Viva La Revolution
DJ Sami Sanchez – Air Raid
Claude Von Stroke – Who’s Afraid Of Detroit?
Sonikz – Woah
NB Funky – Riddim Box (DJ Sami Sanchez Remix)

0430 – 0530

Rob Rentford – It Is What It Is
Felly – Like This
Amiga – Amiga
Mr V – I Can Sing
House Amigos – Déjà Vu
Daddy Funk – W Flute
Zoo Brazil – Gainer
The Sunburst Band – Journey To The Sun (Dennis Ferrer Remix)
Souled vs. Reel People & Omar – I’m Out of Love
Karizma – 33rd Street
Ollie Brooke ft Nina Brooke – Fireflies
Anthony Moriah – Private Life (Guy Robin Main Mix)

0530 – 0600

Dexter Rico - Awakening
Ultra Nate – Love’s The Only Drug
S Tee – Bran Funk
TJ Cases – Hard Cash
Marco Del Horno – Samurai (DJ MA1 Remix)
Ralf Gum ft Monique Bingham – Kissing Strangers (Todz & Beatz Remix)

this grievous angel move down low track is pretty cool.... .

this might be trainspotteringly dull but i find it well interesting that James Lavonz is now in with Quentin Harris and that NY house lot

Yeah, though "Mash Up Da Venue" (still one of the most amazing garage tunes ever and I think a big reference point for a lot of the darker funky, intentionally or otherwise) was kind of an anomoly for Lavonz - everything else he ever did was fairly polite bumping post-Tuff Jam stuff (albeit often excellent).

Can't stop listening to that Mak 10/Shantie show, it's taken over my life. So many great tracks/moments:

- that opening vocal track with the slightly stalkerish lyrics and all the clattery snares, which acts as a great taster for:
- OB's astonishing "Domino Effect": that's the eerie bleepy one with the lonely cyborg singing "That's the way the domino falls... You had me from the very start, now it's time that i surrender... something in my HEART... just went click..." This is such an interesting track from a paradigm pov: I'm actually a little bit over a lot of the more conservative, soulful post-"Time To Let Go" vocal tracks, but this is so much more expansive and unusual than that (as is the "Deja Vu" remix near the beginning) - icy synthish sonics but not falling into the electro-house trap, closer to Cassie's "Me & U" or Aaliyah's "We Need A Resolution" if anything, perhaps crossed with early Nightmares on Wax. I really couldn't think of a better direction for vocal funky tracks to go in.
- The bootleg of Hardhouse Banton's "Reign" with D Double E on top, I didn't think this was amazing until the second beat variation comes in and it matches D.E.E's rising urgency perfectly.
- An otherwise too masculinist tribal-breakbeaty track totally redeemed by being played off a heliumed-up version of "Genie In A Bottle"
- That awesome track with the grimey strings and the diva shrinking "IT'S THE NEW SOUND!!"
- The one with the guy commanding "jump and skank to the beat!" over the ridiculously big bassline.

Also re Mercurial Myrmidon, I've decided that "House of Emotion" is even more massive than "Moving Shapes", though both are fantastic.

I have a feeling Vahid would like them.

Actually I think "Domino Effect" is technically: Addictive - Domino Effect (O.B. Remix) or maybe (Invasion Remix). I note that it's on the Footloose show linked to above. I'm having difficulty downloading that set in full but I really want to hear the Invasion Records producer showcase section! Love those guys so much.

Speaking of which I just went on a splurge on ukfunky.com and got Tadow's "Rising Sun" and Fingaprint's "The Takeover" amongst many others.

My biggest find was discovering that Swift Jay's "Toppa 5", aka the tune from last year with all the Elephant Man samples and the totally insane stuttery groove.

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Tracklist:
Alison Hinds - Roll It Gal (A Little Bit Funky VIP)
Shereen-Crystal & Benji Whytepatch - Wanna See You Dance (Funky House Mix)
Funkystepz - Bounce (FaZe Special)
S-Tee ft Tasha - Touch On Me
Marco Del Horno - Samurai (MA1 Remix)
Diamond Ft Sophia Romain - Fly Away (Remix)
Lil Silva - Funky Pulse
Chaka Khan ft Mary J Blige - Disrespectful (Donaeo Remix)
Dj Champion - Tribal Affair
Dj Q Ft Natz - Yours
Nathan Soul - Hey Makarimba
Ms Dynamite - Bad Gyal
Lil Silva - Different
Footsteps ft AL - Tell Me
Sticky - Jumeriah Riddem
Perempay N Dee - In The Air (Bopstars Wonky Mix)
Crazy Cousinz - Feel My Drums
Mary J Blige - Just Fine (At One Remix)
Sweet Boy Candy - Bongo Boy
NTL - That Girl (Guy Robin & DJ Leo Dub)
Nu Sound Therapy - Hard Steppin
Skepta - Sunglasses At Night (Dj Naughty Mix)
Aardvark - Nosestep
S-Tee - War
Toddla T ft Serocee - Shake It (Donaeo Remix)
Major Notes - Holy Ghost
Kasia - Mr Delirious (Dj Naughty Remix)
Tiny Lou - What Have You Done Phunked
Sinead Hunter - Like a Drug
DJ MA1 - Waterfalls
Dj Drizz ft Deesha - Let Ur Freek Out
Fuzzy Logic - El Mataron
Lee Wilson - Life (Reel Soul Remix)

Download:
zShare: http://www.zshare.net/audio/586132966058906c/
Rapidshare: coming soon...

Split Tracks will come in a bit, dont have time with uni work and that at tho mo....

Cheers Faze! Very excited about nabbing this!

Rapidshare: http://rapidshare.com/files/221046488/FAZE_-_Deep___Funky_April_Edition.mp3

Skepta - Sunglasses At Night (Dj Naughty Mix)

Wait wtf?!

it sucks (well the orig does at least)

Oh it's not THAT Sunglasses At Night. I don't know whether to be relieved or disappointed.

Yeah, though "Mash Up Da Venue" (still one of the most amazing garage tunes ever and I think a big reference point for a lot of the darker funky, intentionally or otherwise) was kind of an anomoly for Lavonz - everything else he ever did was fairly polite bumping post-Tuff Jam stuff (albeit often excellent).

yeh there's some truth in this, i think he was always on a certain trajectory, but thats part of whats interesting to me i think. just funny where people end up and pop up. also just for fun...

kind of like his 4x4 Mash Up Da Venue. Vibration is still one of my absolute favourites too. that and Mash Up Da Venue are easily two of my all time favourite records. i consistently enjoy his use of outrageously odd bass sounds in the oddest of contexts (even his soulful stuff is very odd i think)

with you on some of those vocal tunes about at the moment, that really cold, emotionally catatonic vibe - feeling it.

some really really interesting things picking up again in these recent sets, felt like there was a slight lull but the new year is killing it now

are you still having trouble getting the Footloose rip Tim? i could up in parts or something if so and you want any of it

oh yeh and that other Mercurial Myrmidon tune is sick! he is shaping up to be an amazing producer, wasn't convinced by his first few but he's doing it now. total carnage on that one. still sold on Moving Shapes, the way Footloose drops in and out of it in that show above takes it somewhere else

Yeah "Vibration" is great.

Re the Footloose set, it's just that zshare tends to stop downloading and random points for me, so then I have to start all over again. It usually takes about four goes with these large sets. I'll try again tonight - thanks for the upload!

Interesting that the "Am I Your Girl" tune turns out to be DJ Q of bassline fame - I don't think this is as good as his best bassline stuff, though I like that skanking offbeat counter-rhythm sound he uses through much of it.

it wasn't me on the upload, just the link :) it was a guy from dissensus who uploaded

i can put it up on a different upload site if needs be, just let me know

started listening to that Mak 10 show at last... boy. he is such a badboy once he gets going, he knows how to hit a vibe and ride it. totally feeling you on the new breed of tune coming through, totally plugging that gap i was bemoaning upthread opening up between straighter housey stuff and bleak tribal grimey stuff... exciting times. that along with the likes of Mercurial Myrmidon and some of the weird housier stuff on the Footloose show are finding a beautiful sweetspot somewhere very fresh and compulsive

also LOVE shantie!... he's such a joker, pure vibes. totally brings things to life... "we do it for the girls, do it for the geezers"...

"...dedicated funky listeners!"

I love Shantie so much, it's almost creepy. Esp. since he hasn't bothered to come up with any new rhymes in the past year. I love it on that Mak 10 set when "Seasons" starts up, and he announces "and you know what goes PERFECT with this!!!", then waits for the tune to break into its main groove, then rapidfire:

"Rude boy nowaday what you a do/pick up your gun from god knows who/ain't got an idea ain't got a clue/what you gonna do when they come for you??"

Not to mention on Crazy Cousinz's "Always Be Mine" where he darkly portends "funky comin' in the breeze..." just before the tune flips into its spooky dancehall section, and then starts guffawing at his own inadvertent good timing.

Re Mak 10, yeah particularly on this show there's a sense of him occupying the middle ground in a good way, whereas Marcus can sometimes feel a bit bipolar in his swings between vocal tracks and sparer instrumentals. To my mind, as with 2-step, there's no reason that vocal tunes can't be dark and experimental and no reason why dark and experimental tunes can't have vocals. Though that said a lot of my favourite tracks this year have been instrumental. But I think vocals often make tunes seem harder than they were as instrumentals, rather than the other way round - e.g. for some reason Wookie's "Gallium" becomes ruffer as "Fallin".

Actually the newly vocalled "Always Be Mine" is a good example of the fact that anything can be vocalled. It reminds me of old Wideboys remixes.

The most extreme version of that though will always be the Lorraine Cato vocal mix of "Pulse X".

Shantie has just got a good vibe, what many mc's don't... he sounds like he has so much fun, and loves the tunes, and has simple rhymes that make you smile

agreed on vocals, both in the sense that fluid vocals can really draw out the percussive tuffness of the rhythm (if its there), but also in vibe they can (paradoxically) take things to a stranger and unique place... like that Domino Effect would be a nice enough deep techy number anyway but i think the vocals put it in an entirely different space for me

slightly unrelated and it may not be rated but i've been absolutely lapping up this Timmy Regisford / Shelter tribute mix these last weeks

http://frazer-houseproud.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post.html

if you ain't got a PIN it's a facebook ting

Gratuitously reviving this thread to note that the two Mak 10/Shantie sets (the deja one from March and now the new rinse one) have monopolised my life even more than the classic marcus nasty sets from last year. This really is the most astonishing stuff!

marcus is still better than mak.

tho shantie with marcus would be better still ;)

no chance!

I think Marcus is more consistent than Mak - who has some very boring sets at times - but the two Mak10/Shantie hook-ups are unbeatable. On those sets Mak has a better track selection than anything Marcus has managed this year at the very least.

We're all in agreement re Shantie obv.

maks ok but he doesnt know how to sequence or build up the momentum of a set as well as marcus when hes playing instrumentals. not nearly. i love shantie. i dont really know his history but he reminds me of early grime mcs around 2001/2002, kinda like gods gift but not as gruff. marcus' sets are still great, but its a bit weird to still hear dubs he was playing last year still being played when we're almost 6 months into 2009! (good as they are)

thats interesting... i was about to post almost exactly the opposite!

i generally find Mak a hands-down better selector in the flow - when he hits a seam he absolutely kills it, wheras i often find Marcus doesn't really get me hitting a vibe for extended periods so much.

Mak is also an extraordinary dj in terms of beat-matching, chopping and eq

in terms of consistency i've found Marcus Nasty to be very inconsistent... sometimes months of boring shows. it seems like maybe he goes through longer phases of being not that great, wheras with Mak 10 the shows he's done have varied massively even within the space of a week or so.

but they're both great to be fair

however Mak also wins at not making threats against other house djs on the internet

I'd actually side with marcus when it comes to beat matching, and give the edge slightly to mak10 (on his best sets) when it comes to sequencing - some awesome swift cuts from one to the other.

In other news, that awesome bleepy tune that I've been trying to ID forever - it's early on in the Marcus + MCs set from November last year, after Geeneus's "Make Me" I think - turns out to be Mos Wanted's "Different Lekstrix". Not that surprising since Mos Wanted's more recent "Frozen" is rather like it.

The none-more-insane tribal track that dates back to a similar time (and is on that set as well) is (surprise surprise) Lil' Silva's "Tribal Land".

Also, Royal P seems to be developing a fine line in that sickly-lush new vocal style emerging (a la the OB remix of "Domino Effect") - "Between Us" is simultaneously woozy and svelte, all disorienting synth swirls and delicate percussion. If this is where the vocal end of the scene goes I'm totally all for it.

Help me fill in the tracklist blanks on the Marcus Nasty/Mak10 26 March set:

0:00:00 - ??? "Quit trying to fight you"
0:02:50 - J-Will - Deja Vu (??? Remix)
0:05:02 - ??? "You give me butterflies"
0:07:14 - ??? "Dangerous... I'm about to explode"
0:09:25 - DJ Q - Your Girl
0:11:36 - Hard House Banton - Sirens
0:12:35 - Unknown - A Little Bit Funky/Christina Aguilera - Genie In A Bottle
0:14:16 - ??? "It's the New Sound!"
0:16:28 - ??? Stuttery drums and sad bleeps
0:17:27 - Addictive - Domino Effect (O.B. Remix)
0:19:53 - ??? Sounds like DJ Naughty maybe
0:21:48 - Sticky and Paleface - Open Your Eyes
0:24:30 - Crazy Cousinz - Always Be Mine
0:26:40 - Donaeo - Love To Happen
0:29:37 - Lil' Silva - Different
0:32:15 - Fuzzy Logic - In The Morning
0:33:29 - ??? Piano tune
0:35:40 - ??? "He's young and he's black and they think that he's handsome"
0:37:38 - ??? synthy
0:38:52 - Lil' Silva - Seasons
0:41:30 - ??? "Jump and skank to the beat"
0:43:13 - Aaron Carl - Oasis (Nick Holder Dub)
0:44:56 - ??? dancehall-ish with piano, maybe Tadow?
0:46:07 - Hard House Banton - Reign/D Double E Freestyle
0:51:45 - ??? Maybe Fuzzy Logic, piano stomper
0:52:34 - snippet of Princess - Frontline
0:53:18 - Sticky - Juremiah Riddim
0:55:29 - ??? echoing percussion, "work me!"
0:58:25 - Scottie D - ???
0:59:38 - ??? Tribal bleep
1:01:36 - ??? Spooky arpeggios and trance chords
1:03:03 - ??? Histrionic synth blasts
1:04:17 - ??? Feel like I should know this one. "Now move!"
1:07:34 - ??? repeat dubby chord and smashing percussion
1:09:46 - Funkystepz - Funky Sound
1:11:42 - ??? Probably Scottie D or Lil' Silva
1:12:49 - Scottie D - Dream (fabulous!)
1:14:10 - Rapid - Report to the Dancefloor
1:15:23 - Lil' Silva - Funky Flex vs Pulse
1:17:19 - D-Malice - ???
1:19:02 - Madd.One - Tribal Conga
1:20:30 - ??? Eerie horns
1:22:15 - ??? "And I'm here to tell you!" LOVE THIS
1:24:23 - Lil' Silva - ???
1:27:33 - ??? Organ riffs
1:28:35 - ??? Rip Groove samples?
1:30:01 - ??? very Jammer
1:31:00 - Unknown - A Little Bit Funky
1:32:27 - Danny Native - Rass
1:33:42 - ??? Latin percussion
1:35:24 - ??? LOVE THE ARDKORE VIBE ON THIS ONE
1:37:33 - ??? Drum rolls
1:38:43 - ??? That "Whoidit?" sample is a producer signature though. This is great
1:40:57 - ??? Very grimey
1:41:54 - ??? Love the assymetrical groove on this one
1:43:09 - ??? Feel like I should know this one, heard it heaps
1:44:37 - ??? Zipping string riffs
1:46:06 - Roska - In Your Handbag
1:48:01 - ??? Deep house vibe
1:49:32 - ??? More of a tribal deep house thing

thats the type of tracklisting i wanna see on the back of those rinse mix cds :)

fuck liners!

PUT YOUR SUNGLASSES ON
DANCING TO MY SUNGLASSES SONG

is anyone liking DJ MA1's "Waterfalls" as much as I am? Something about it's simplicity makes it feel much huger than it should be

of interest, especially Aidonia's "Inflation" vocal:

http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/blog/item/ja-bashment-meets-uk-funky/

Ha, I was about to post that!

Sticky & Lady Chann's "Your Eye Too Fast" from the same blog is great.

I'd have to take the Aidonia off repeat to listen to that and I'm not quite prepared to do such yet.

Oh right, the Sticky/Lady Chann is brilliant stuff, too.

x-post Ha ha. I've yet to decide if the autotuning on the Aidonia is too much, or if too much is never enough.