pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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but most of those are, in one way or another, #onbrand targets for pitchfork - like you won't see anyone breaking ranks to trash the latest pile of body fluids and sounds known as ariel pink's pom pom

are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link

i miss these days http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/9464-shine-on/

billstevejim, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link

In some UK magazines grade inflation for big acts is so established that a three-star translates as a hatchet job. Likewise any Pitchfork grade below 7 I guess.

Continue your brooding monologue (Re-Make/Re-Model), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 14:56 (nine years ago) link

and video games reviews, where anything under 80% is a vicious pan

there's also a lot more than 25 albums that get released every week. reviewers frequently want to write about bands that they like. if they had 10 reviews a day instead of 5, they would probably get stuck reviewing more records that they actively dislike, and the average score would likely drop.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link

El-P Shares Run The Jewels 2 Clean Version

How is this a top news story?

In other news, new Sufjan album has front and back cover art

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link

Because they are concerned with keeping the artists they helped break in the front of your mind and tied in with PF in the process. So anytime you think of the most successful artists in the indie world you think of pitchfork.

Evan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:41 (nine years ago) link

Perhaps the conversation has shifted, but I wanted to step up and defend ratings. Not Pitchfork's per se, but ratings in general. (It seems the problem with ratings, for me anyway, is a lack of dissent, but that's another argument).
As a consumer I find them a very useful starting point for discovering new music, especially when I'm doing some type of genre and/or catalog deep dive of music/band with which I'm unfamiliar.

campreverb, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link

Pitchfork was more fun when it gave 0.0s to Zaireeka and Boy with the Arab Strap.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link

It's amazing how fast backlash used to be. Arab Strap came out only two years after Sinister, and yet the pfork review talked about how belle and sebastian like they were this venerable institution that was letting down their fans with a "mediocre" record that "parodied" themselves. What was the expectation? I don't think disappointing sophomore albums are discussed this way anymore, especially if they follow fast on the heels of a classic. It's like time has sped up or something

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link

arab strap was actually 0.8; i remember because it is the funniest pitchfork rating ever, to me. so close to a 1! but not quite 1-caliber.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link

I don't think disappointing sophomore albums are discussed this way anymore, especially if they follow fast on the heels of a classic.

i thought it was still the classic pfork move to laud the debut and shrug at the follow-up.

It's like time has sped up or something

unless it's a rapper who gets constant coverage on the basis of mixtapes and then gets their album panned, but that's more of a general issue.

lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link

Have to respect the algorithms of the software they use. The results are scientific and objective.

xp

Evan, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:36 (nine years ago) link

So were those tweets from the author of that "unbearable whiteness" article ranting about white people real?

SurfaceKrystal, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link

Twitter isnt real its just words

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

Are you a YT? xp

, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link

read that as "Are you a YouTube"

kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link

wait, did 龜 really mean "are you a YouTube"?

kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link

So did I

SurfaceKrystal, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link

Seriously though, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBDsRdxWsAAnEb9.jpg

SurfaceKrystal, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link

tell me more

deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link

More what, context? That Twitter is the author of the article mention previously on the thread.

SurfaceKrystal, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xctuMC9jCBk

how's life, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link

please elaborate on why those tweets are notable, SurfaceKrystal

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link

poor wites they never had a chance against this yung south asian writer, rip wites

are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link

all of those tweets otm

The Reverend, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link

pitchfork is like the only place on earth that ever cared about deerhoof

― J0rdan S., Monday, March 30, 2015 4:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Deerhoof has been a consistant live draw for over a decade

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link

"white people sure are excited about unbreakable kimmy schmidt"

lol

deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link

xpost well, she wasn't really done with white people in 2012

Is It Any Wonder I'm Not the (President Keyes), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link

Notable? Oh I just thought it was quite funny

SurfaceKrystal, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link

why

deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link

lol wolves circling

badg, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

@ campreverb, I love ratings, but when they're fun and at the service of a good reading and listening experience, not "look at us scale the entire world of music and music writing on this metric of objectivity". My ideal rating system has always been Vice's music section tbh

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link

my ideal rating system has always been dos and don'ts

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link

xxp agreed, there just seemed to be a case being made earlier that ratings/listicles/best of's serve no purpose, and I while I think that point could be made for the latter 2, throwing ratings out with them is throwing the baby with the bathwater to me.

ideal system: CMJ's old RIYL.

campreverb, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 23:44 (nine years ago) link

finger paintings tweet otm

swae lee is the sremmurd for rae dad (crüt), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 23:51 (nine years ago) link

Kimmy Schmidt was great! I'm white btw

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 23:58 (nine years ago) link

i don't see how she ever expects to get cast in a belle and sebastian movie with tweets like those

een, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 00:04 (nine years ago) link

Yeah so Jenny Death gets 8.1 but not BNM... perfect example of PF walking their top-down branding tightrope. Gotta appease the kids who align their indie identity with DG image marketing, but not unnerve the Pomplamoose set.

Adam J Duncan, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 00:24 (nine years ago) link

http://www.big-t-shirts.com/ProdImages/big/792.jpg

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 00:42 (nine years ago) link

unnerve the pomplamoose and pomplamoose the unnerved

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 01:07 (nine years ago) link

is what they should be doing

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 01:07 (nine years ago) link

I just want to post a comment below the review, goddammit!

open commenting on pitchfork is not a great idea.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 01:13 (nine years ago) link

well ok, but i just have one really important comment

for one review in particular

it's about how i make a living while working from the comfort of my home

post it here

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 01:14 (nine years ago) link

wtf i can't c+p my home

just post everything here

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link


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