Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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I see. I only had that happen the first time run after install :-/

Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 29 March 2015 04:34 (nine years ago) link

after the program has been open for a while, i can no longer add new songs to my playlists

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Sunday, 29 March 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link

i have to relaunch. this is irritating.

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Sunday, 29 March 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link

I found that dragging songs from the search drop-down into the big playlist window will stop working, but you can still drag the song onto the name of the playlist over in the left-hand panel. Baffling.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 March 2015 13:03 (nine years ago) link

have you tried turning it off and back on again?

akm, Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:24 (nine years ago) link

£120 a year is a lot to be giving

no it fucking isn't lol

Finn McCoolit (wins), Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link

I mean I agree with everyone that the spotify application is a garbage application and gets worse with each update but the *service* is absurdly good value even if I do have to log out and log back in every single time to get the mobile version to work

Finn McCoolit (wins), Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link

Agreed

Jeff, Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link

I prefer to think of it as 'brushing spotify's teeth'

Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 29 March 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link

since u can just install an older superior version in about a minute it doesn't make a lot of sense to complain. idk what spotify as a corp gains from making newer versions of their app progressively worse but at least we have a choice.

Mordy, Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:06 (nine years ago) link

the program is bad and the programmers should feel bad

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link

maybe the idea is that the UI gets simpler and therefore more aesthetically pleasing and easier for new users? i guess apple has had some success w/ that design theory but itunes, even tho a terrible program itself, still has way better functionality in almost every important area for a music app (playlists, sorting, searching, etc)

Mordy, Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link

Can I install an old version that has stars? I know I can't in mobile, which is where I really need it.

Jeff, Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link

That fix upthread is the best btw, would never have occurred to me to try so thx!

Finn McCoolit (wins), Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link

the only problem to the retroactive version fix is that it synchs up somewhat sloppily with mobile... though to be fair, so did the up to date model so

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:48 (nine years ago) link

Yes, the old version I linked to upthread has starring - as does the ancient version of the iPhone app that I steadfastly refuse to upgrade. Taken together, they synch with each other just fine.

mike t-diva, Sunday, 29 March 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link

just downgraded and it feels so goooooood

bonkers candle ancestors (reddening), Monday, 30 March 2015 03:37 (nine years ago) link

this is the buggiest, shittiest program

Treeship, Friday, 3 April 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link

ime the buggiest, shittiest programs are sold at crazy high prices to a narrow customer base.

£120 a year is a lot to be giving

no it fucking isn't lol

― Finn McCoolit (wins)

That's more than buying 1 CD album every month. Most ppl don't buy 1 CD album a month, every month. Especially when people just dl for free today. I have probably over 500 CD's but I hven't bought or listened to one in years. So yes, £120 of my money is a lot, I don't know how much you value money so I can't talk for you. Put it this way if Spotify put it up to £15 or £20 a month probably 70-80% of their users would disappear.

Auk stay woke (Arctic Noon Auk), Friday, 3 April 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link

Especially when people just dl for free today.

c'mon dude

RMDE if you buy one CD a month you get 12 albums a year, if you pay £120 you get access to hundreds of thousands of them.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 April 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link

right. spotify may be a bit like a vitamin supplement in that you can't possibly absorb all of that value, but you still come out way ahead in value for your £ or $

I am the cheapest motherfucker I know and I don't find the premium price exorbitant

katherine, Friday, 3 April 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

Considering how much I use Spotify, I just factor it in like any other utility bill. Also, since when are cds less than the monthly Spotify subscription? Even on Amazon, they're still routinely more than $10.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 April 2015 17:43 (nine years ago) link

"I wish my celestial jukebox that lets me listen to almost any song ever created was cheaper than one CD."

-today's spoiled generation

schwantz, Friday, 3 April 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link

1. doesn't make a difference what the cost is versus CDs, if it's a lot of money for how much you have budgeted to spend on music, it's a lot of money for you. if it's ALL the money you have budgeted for spending on music, then it'd be kind of a drag if it didn't work right.

2. it's annoying when things you pay for don't work right in general

3. ilx is like an all-purpose clearinghouse for complaining about life-degrading minutia, wtf is wrong with calling out this shitty downgraded software for what it is?

Doctor Casino, Friday, 3 April 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link

this is the kind of statement I suspect I'll look back on in five years (or would have looked upon five years ago) and think "how did you even LIVE like that," but tbh in 2015 I expect any piece of software, website or other product to be shitty, clunky, downgraded and/or malfunctioning

katherine, Friday, 3 April 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link

spotify knows that the majority of people, and its users, are not big music enthusiasts. most people are casual listeners. most people don't require access to 30 million songs. so £120 is a lot. it's not like you, or on ILM, your twitter feed, or w/e. Most people just like to listen to a bit of music every now and again. most people can get away with not having to spend £10 a month to get their fix. the people on here that regularly seek out and listen to songs and albums with <1000 plays are probably in the 5% minority of their userbase. So yes, £120 a month is a lot for a piece of shit software that gets beta tested on premium users, and heavily downgraded for no apprent reason.

Auk stay woke (Arctic Noon Auk), Friday, 3 April 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link

then i guess people will stop using it

Treeship, Friday, 3 April 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

i don't get what your point is. spotify is horrible from a bugginess perspective, but it's an amazing value. it's transformed my life, really, as i no longer have to waste time hunting down torrents

Treeship, Friday, 3 April 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

the general sluggishness of spotify does annoy me but

a) a lot of this is due to my laptop, which is a piece of shit; spotify honestly isn't THAT much slower than, say, chrome and
b) unlike iTunes, which is equally sluggish, there is not a reasonable substitute that I've liked

katherine, Friday, 3 April 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link

i don't get what your point is. spotify is horrible from a bugginess perspective, but it's an amazing value. it's transformed my life, really, as i no longer have to waste time hunting down torrents

I went back to torrenting after some time using Spotify because too much of the stuff I wanted was unavailable. There isn't much hunting to do.

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 3 April 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

that's probably a fun thing to say, but it's also not true for a large number of people

xp it's much easier to only have to hunt down the unavailable stuff as opposed to everything you want to listen to which is how it used to be

Treeship, Friday, 3 April 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

it isn't "easier" as in "less difficult" so much as "less tedious" -- there's enough stuff I listen to that isn't on spotify that I do find myself hunting for downloads/used CDs/etc on an overly regular basis, but spotify has proven immeasurably useful for those times I think "man, I really want to listen to ____" but never bought the CD, or when I think "crap, I need to relisten to ____ for this review, I forgot what it even sounds like"

katherine, Friday, 3 April 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link

Speaking as a Spotify (or Rdio) user, the transformational thing for me is being able to listen to playlists full of things I would never even consider taking the time to track down individually, and might not know where to even start. I could go listen to 2 hrs of Finnish hip hop right now. Or I might change my mind after 30 minutes and switch to Eurovision entries or whatever came out on Profound Lore that I haven't heard yet. Or whatever is hot in a Philippine city I've never even heard of. It's like you're saying walking isn't that much slower than skateboarding, but that's not a skateboard, it's a rocket board with landing gear.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 3 April 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link

you're right glenn but spotify's ux needs to make those journeys apparent

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 April 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link

I've never really listened to playlists made by anyone other than me, ILM users, or rl friends but I adore premium Spotify.

but ffs sake why limit yourself to one or the other? Slsk is still a lovely tool, and I am still buying new and old lovely vinyl + cds

kraudive, Saturday, 4 April 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link

you're right glenn but spotify's ux needs to make those journeys apparent

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, April 3, 2015 6:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, this part is very true. Spotify definitely began as a searchable database, and has been slowly embracing the idea that we need to do a lot more for most people than just sit and wait for their queries. Acquiring an editorial team was one big step in this direction. Acquiring the Echo Nest was another. These elements are starting to come together, but there's much more coming, and much much more to do...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 4 April 2015 08:34 (nine years ago) link

I thought I found a way to star songs again. If I play Spotify through my roku, it still has the starred option. But it didn't sync up with the playlist :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

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Jeff, Sunday, 5 April 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link

yeah, ever since I got a roku and attempted to refresh my starred list, it got completely out-of-sync and now I can't load the starred list on any device or my computer.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Sunday, 5 April 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link

Thanks, Obama.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 5 April 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link

Thankfully, I don't seem to have broken anything. Losing my starred playlist would be devastating. That's how I listen to music 90% of the time.

Jeff, Sunday, 5 April 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

Weird bug that's started to happen - when I pull a full album into a playlist, the tracks don't stay in order. (artist/album stays together but the individual tracks within an album get jumbled up.)

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 5 April 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link

If you're that worried about it, Jeff, you should probably make a "backup" playlist and just drag all your starred tracks into it.

brimstead, Sunday, 5 April 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

Good idea. Better safe than sorry.

Jeff, Sunday, 5 April 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link

better write it all down as well

and post it into an ilx thread bc this place will outlive us all

Been trying for months to buy premium in Western Canada... they won't take my postal code. Even tweeted the CEO about it, the red-headed stepchild that I am. Intentionally annoying ads take on new meaning when you're in this position.

Adam J Duncan, Sunday, 5 April 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link


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