Well, they are definitely lying-ass liars, which is what has made this whole thing troubling for me, because that doesn't necessarily make them guilty of murder.
― RICHARD GROWTH (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Saturday, 28 March 2015 03:11 (nine years ago) link
apparently everyone was stunned by the verdict - defense, prosecution, everybody
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:29 (nine years ago) link
Yeah i did a 180 on this. I always used to see them as the victims of a botched investigation but there's always been something really off about these two
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 28 March 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
Bit of evidence linking them to the crime for which someone is already doing time would be nice.
― ledge, Saturday, 28 March 2015 18:20 (nine years ago) link
Thankfully not the person she falsely accused for no reason.
― tsrobodo, Sunday, 29 March 2015 01:46 (nine years ago) link
She looks like Billy Corgan. Therefore, probably a wrong'un.
― Humphrey Plugg, Sunday, 29 March 2015 07:02 (nine years ago) link
they're a bit odd but from what I read of any of this over time there was hardlly any evidence connection them to it. I admit it seems like people outside of the US seem to have a completley different take on this for some reason.
― akm, Sunday, 29 March 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link
They've spent an enormous amount of money managing the media in the US, which goes some way towards explaining the divide.
― Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Sunday, 29 March 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link
No point beating a dead horse at this point, but Salon sums it up nicely:
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/27/amanda_knox_verdict_the_real_evidence_and_why_almost_everything_you_think_you_know_about_the_case_is_wrong/
Are we gonna have a Serial/Jinx treatment of this in years to come?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 30 March 2015 12:13 (nine years ago) link
It may be the intervention of the PR firm coupled with media echo effects and confirmation bias, but I'd love to read a serious investigative piece about this case's public "life". It's one of those cases where there's so much strawmanning, xenophobia, contrary positions with seemingly entirely different sets of basic facts that it makes me feel like every comment section is street-teamed. I guess "welcome to the Internet, me" but there's so much deliberate lying, innocent misinformation and general ugliness involved with this case that it's hard for me to process.
― RICHARD GROWTH (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Monday, 30 March 2015 14:20 (nine years ago) link
sorry that's so badly written, but hopefully it's a little bit intelligible.
Don't forget Sarcasm, there's a lot of it about and it ends up being accumulated into the 'stated' facts of the case.
― Mark G, Monday, 30 March 2015 14:21 (nine years ago) link
Yes - I think sarcasm and detachment probably explain a lot.
― RICHARD GROWTH (fake penthouse letters mcgee), Monday, 30 March 2015 14:27 (nine years ago) link
That salon article reads like the author stumbled across one of the highly partisan anti-knox blogs (I know there are just as bad pro-knox ones) and then ran wide eyed to the typewriter.
Knox’s DNA was found on the handle of the murder weapon – a knife belonging to Sollecito – and Kercher’s was found on the blade. Whether it’s really Kercher’s DNA is hotly contested by Knox supporters, but contamination was ruled out at the latest appeal. The probability that the DNA on the blade did not come from Kercher was found to be one in 300 million billion.
One in three hundred million billion bajillion! That's incontrovertibly high! That appeal she refers to where contamination was ruled out was the previous appeal, the one that was just overturned.
― ledge, Monday, 30 March 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link
And reading the comments it seems there were two knives, and the one with Knox/Sollecito DNA couldn't have been the murder weapon because it was too big (I admit I haven't been following close enough to know definitively whether that's the knife they're talking about).
― nickn, Monday, 30 March 2015 23:55 (nine years ago) link
Wow I don't remember dissecting the evidence quite as closely as I did back in 2011, still, nothing has materially changed since then. In other words I'd just like to point out that I was otm in this thread.
― ledge, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 07:31 (nine years ago) link
ledge you said she was held for 14 hours. she wasn't. you said the DNA evidence on the knife was discredited. it wasn't.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link
guys
― goole, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
I'M IN HTE ZONE DAMMIT
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link
you said the DNA evidence on the knife was discredited. it wasn't.
What's your source for this? I don't think it's correct, although we can't be sure until the final courts full judgment is released.
― ledge, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 07:19 (nine years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3081807/What-s-head-Foxy-Knoxy-Watch-Amanda-Knox-sing-away-woes-karaoke-rendition-Cranberries-song-Zombie-NYC-visit.html
― goole, Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r8LG_lCbac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NueLjUNB-GM
― Number None, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link
ok now i think she did it
― goole, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/amanda-knoxs-boyfriend-is-here-to-party-rock-1786455477
― nomar, Friday, 9 September 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--qs8fmX3S--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/v0rghjaw95nufmitoj56.jpg
― nomar, Friday, 9 September 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
it me
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 September 2016 09:26 (seven years ago) link
we can't be sure until the final courts full judgment is released.
Did this happen, does anyone care anymore?
― dancing jarman by derek (ledge), Saturday, 10 September 2016 11:31 (seven years ago) link
oh there are a few websites that will care about this for the next 30 years. i haven't checked them in awhile tho.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 10 September 2016 13:06 (seven years ago) link
i just checked one. latest post - this tuesday. hundreds of words.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link
http://truejustice.org/ee/
ghouls
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Thursday, 10 October 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
fucking hell someone has a lot of time on their hands
― akm, Friday, 11 October 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
Just learned that she hosts a podcast (for Sundance): The Truth About True Crime. I'm gonna check it out.
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
did we ever get this sorted?
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
documentarians are divided
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
guede is out of prison. if you listen you can hear the sound of checkbooks opening all over europe. i don’t think he has anything to lose by talking - he’s already been convicted and served his time. sorry if it’s ghoulish, this is my one true crime guilty pleasure.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
i’ve probably read this transcript a million times. guede’s story is super sketch, sounds kinda fake, but at the same time there are so many weird details. the clothes in the washing machine. the broken window (which i know from other sources had shattered OUTWARDS rather than inwards)https://famous-trials.com/amanda-knox/2635-guede-s-taped-skype-conversation
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link