Fox News Hosts - Who is the worst?

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yeah higher ups at fox shouldn't have let those three get railroaded like that, but still lols 4 lyfe

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

this is fascinating. clearly shep doesn't take o'reilly's word for it, and raises point after point where o'reilly's story on how jackson's comments got out, doesn't add up. he's very precise about it. you don't see this kind of interview much any more, sadly, but it's so interesting that he's skeptical about every single part of the story & extra skeptical when o'reilly tries to be flattering. wow, actual journalism on cable news.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess shep is allowed to insult anyone he wants :) thing is, i have seen enough segments from "fox & friends" to know that.. they're really irresponsible, as if being a lighthearted & painfully bright and cheerful morning show makes it OK to play fast and loose with the facts & put a right wing spin on most everything.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the o'reilly interview here, though, if i did broadcast journalism i'd be taking notes. you know how touchy/angry/defensive o'reilly gets when questioned & here he basically gets interrogated about this but it's done so carefully he really has no way to get out of it. o'reilly ends up looking pretty bad IMHO.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

If FOX News didn't exist, I find it hard to believe Steve Doocy and Gretchen Carlson could find a job anywhere. They're completely useless in every capacity. Kilmeade is almost in the same boat, but occasionally redeems himself by doing something that's actually funny (and not just funny by mistake).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

johnny otm

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

oh shit...i just fucking realized that that's GRETCHEN CARLSON from MN who was Ms America holy crap, i forgot she even existed, but damn everyone acted like it was such a big deal when she won.

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I get the feeling with Gretchen that she doesn't always have a clear grasp of the subtleties of Fox News (or Republican) talking points. So she'll just get the basic thrust (we don't like liberals) and then take them to some extreme, like - and I don't remember the specific words but - talking trash about Ted Kennedy being an enemy combatant and the White House representative at the time being like, "Well, we don't like him. But no, he's not actually a terrorist." Like she's kinda unclear about the distinction. I think it's kinda cute. Like the uncool/slower kid running with the ball with lots of enthusiasm, even if they don't really understand the sport.

Mordy, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

comparing gretchen carlson to a retard is an apt comparison i think yeah

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

"one civil rights leader disparaging another civil rights leader", lol

710 east green in bensenville near o'hare (omar little), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

carlson never met a right wing talking point she didn't leave unchallenged..

in the clip i posted above, bill o'reilly going on and on and on about the rules of journalism and journalism 101, makes it completely obvious he's just making excuses. at the end of the day fox does depend on being a news organization, not an opinion organization - I get the sense with this interview that this is what happens when one of the opinion shows decides they are going to break big stories like they're journalists. roger ailes has to step in with official statements & bill o has to go on somebody else's show and answer questions.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i remember doocy from a puffy fluffy local morning show (might have been a fox affiliate) about 10-15 yrs ago, pastel sweater/white keds type of thing, him weighing in on politics in any capacity still blows my mind

tremendoid, Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

doocy clearly has no idea what he's talking about, and the lady who's like "oooh, scary" has even less of a clue

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 March 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 26 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Thermo, I don't know that most of America has even heard of this guy

i suspected as much. hence me calling him a nobody.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 26 March 2009 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Thursday, 26 March 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

GEORGE CHANDLER
HAD NAIL IN HIS HEAD

! (Clay), Thursday, 26 March 2009 01:07 (fifteen years ago) link

My love for Shep knows no bounds.

youcangoyourownway, Thursday, 26 March 2009 01:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, plus 1 for Hannity. How could such an unintelligent person get a national platform? I love Hitchen's takedown of him

youcangoyourownway, Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

robert gibbs' pwning was pretty epic

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i remember doocy from a puffy fluffy local morning show (might have been a fox affiliate) about 10-15 yrs ago, pastel sweater/white keds type of thing, him weighing in on politics in any capacity still blows my mind

I remember when he hosted kids' shows!!

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

the tv announcer game is darker and uglier than anything

laying | (goole), Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:30 (fifteen years ago) link

they're not really actors or journalists or experts, it's just this thing... really fucked up frankly

laying | (goole), Thursday, 26 March 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Gibbs vs. Fox and Friends was also epic

youcangoyourownway, Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish Gibbs was still that pointed now, but its understandable for a White House press secretary to have to play nice.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link

XD XD @ "the news is so WEIRD lately"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm a little surprised by the (relative) praise for o'reilly on this thread. i mean, everything that i have seen and heard about him indicates that, besides his assholish political views, he's also a first-class douchebag and close to being a sociopath. i mean, this is a guy who has sent his followers to stalk people who diss him in some way. i don't care whether or not his (repugnant) views are thought-out or occasionally reasonable, i find that sort of conduct unacceptable.

that said, i voted for hannity.

LOLBJ (Eisbaer), Thursday, 26 March 2009 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

O'Reilly is an A+ boob, but I think it's a learned behavior that took over FOX during the Bush administration. I watched an old clip of him from 2001 on The Daily Show and he seemed entirely reasonable and non-detestable.

Sure he's probably an asshole in real life, or at least impatient and short-tempered (based on the Inside Edition outtake), and definitely creepy and horny (intern sex scandal)...

...yeah, I really can't defend him.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 March 2009 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link

aight i'll defend him

for one tons of ppl are dicks irl, i think that's a slippery slope. but i really turned the corner on o reilly when he had been calling for obama to sit down with him, obama did, and o reilly left the interview talking about how he was impresses w/ obama even tho he didn't agree with him, and that he appreciated having a conversation w/ him etc. also, if you watch his show day in and out (guilty as charged) you see that he's not even on hannity's level of conservative fear baiting and racism and pure hatred. i mean he has dumb opinions for sure (thinks the internet is ruining the world) and gets his nose into business that he shouldn't (jamie spears thing is a good example) but i think he really thinks that he's providing an open forum for discussion. i go back to the infamous cam'ron thing. in hannity's case he would've brought the dude onto his set and blindsided him. o reilly set up the thing as a discussion b/w cam and an elementary school principle, and it only turned ugly once cam and dame started clowning o reilly for being a corny white dude

J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 March 2009 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Why did he call his latest book "A Bold Fresh Piece of Humanity" ?

There is really no reason for that.

james k polk, Thursday, 26 March 2009 07:44 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah but i mean he's totally taking the piss (from a secretary of course) w/ that title

unique whips (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 26 March 2009 07:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 27 March 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

STOP you're making me want to slap my monitor.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 March 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

wow - landslide!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 27 March 2009 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link

fight the real NME (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 27 March 2009 05:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Fox News's saving grace (if there is one) is that they always hire gorgeous women as anchors.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32894267@N00/2873370217/

And all of the sudden O'Reilly becomes tolerable, what was old has become new etc.

Cunga, Friday, 27 March 2009 05:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I've always liked Shep since Katrina when he was live in New Orleans and went off.

"Soldiers are moving those people from one hot overpass to another. They need water. Somebody get these people some water. What is going on here?" (that's how I remember it)

It was the first sane moment I saw on television that awful couple of days and I've always respected him for breaking character at that moment regardless of who he worked for, and I've enjoyed seeing clips of him over the years even though I won't watch FOX in general.

I saw this too!!! It was easily one of the awesomest things I've seen on television...

Seriously, guys, the fact that this thread has turned into a Sheppard Smith lovefest has totally totally totally restored my faith in ILX!

I am Robertson Speedo (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 27 March 2009 05:32 (fifteen years ago) link

update: found out that Shep's brother's father-in-law and my dad are buds (Shep grew up in Holly Springs, MS and went to Ole Miss). I kind of want to forward this thread to him.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Friday, 27 March 2009 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Shep is also a total queen in his personal life, according to a buddy who works at a Fox affiliate.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 March 2009 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link

gossip! excellent. shep is the best.

here is the long version of shep goofing on glenn beck

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Friday, 27 March 2009 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

btw it is clear chris wallace is just playing along in his deadpan way.

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Friday, 27 March 2009 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i was kind of wondering if wallace was being serious. it's hard (for me) to get a read on that dude, and i sometimes wonder if my distaste for him is excessive

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Friday, 27 March 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

wallace is a blowhard but i think hes enough invested in journalism as a respectable institution to not be taking beck very seriously

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Friday, 27 March 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

cable news is morphing into pro-wrestling

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Friday, 27 March 2009 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

funny to say this but it drives me up the wall, because i am def a partisan, when.. ppl on liberal blogs are convinced that when anyone on fox is fair, they're suddenly 'enlightened' and coming over to the other side. i get the impression with wallace that he is.. of course committed to being a serious journalist but his point of departure is heavily right-leaning sources like washington times so the spectrum of what he takes seriously starts there and ends with.. washington post, say. i don't think you can help but start with a set of basic assumptions and his are more conservative, i guess.

heh, otm with the pro wrestling. whatcha gonna do when glenn beck runs wild on you? can you smell... what olbermann is cooking? hannity is a great american, fight for the rights of every man..

we are here to celebrate, worship and adore (daria-g), Friday, 27 March 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link


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