GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

unless they are from the '70s or are The Dick Van Dyke Show

yeah there are some old ones I like, but the form's basically been dead/moribund/totally worthless for... 30 years? yeah fuck that, they aren't funny.

The 3-camera ones are pretty bad, though Seinfeld/Friends were pretty good, and I'm sure there are other examples of good ones here and there. But the single-camera ones are often awesome! I think what people mean by "sitcom beats" are the set-up/knock down rhythm of sitcoms. For example, Hannah getting lectured on boundaries early in the episode, and then giving the same lecture to her dad later on.

Meant to say Most of the 3-camera ones...

yeah I consider stuff like Larry Sanders Show, Curb Your Enthusiasm, 30 Rock, Broad City, Always Sunny, etc. as some other kind of tv comedy distinct from sitcoms. just the way they're paced, shot, written - they feel like a totally different beast from something like Everybody Loves Raymond or whatever.

"She is SO not sorry to interrupt" had me str8 lolin

here's a situation we built for our characters! they have to deal with it! comedy ensues!

― all sitcoms, (since Time Immemorial) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Larry Sanders, Curb, 30 Rock, Broad City, Always Sunny, etc. <-- Sitcoms.

the form's basically been dead/moribund/totally worthless for... 30 years?

this is nonsense

unless you define sitcoms as situation-based comedies you don't like

which appears to be what you're doing

Maybe Lex has hacked Shakey's login and is waging his war against comedy by stealth.

my only issue with last night's episode is that ray's speech, staring at marnie, and marnie's entirely in-character hijacking of ray's party to announce her engagement both made me cringe so hard i forgot all the lines that made me genuinely lol

also just to point out, trad sitcoms being shitty for 30 years would apparently include cheers, so please let me inform you, this means war

Shelley Long left Cheers in 1987, so not by much

cheers is a different show after shelly left, but still a funny-as-hell and often brilliant one

can't argue, didn't watch the Kirstie Alley years

you should! some of my favourite episodes are from that era!

you guys can have you crap, I don't have to like it

your

you don't even have to post on this thread about it! but if you do we might engage with you about it, JUST A WARNING

you want to argue about what the definition of "trad sitcom" is, fine, I was pretty specific upthread - three-camera 30-minute "situational comedy" with sets and a laugh track/audience

and no idgaf about (most of) Cheers, Seinfeld, Friends, Everybody Loves Raymond or whatever. they don't make me laugh.

The Nanny, King of Queens, Mike & Molly, Big Bang Theory

To get back on track though...

Now that you know everyone else isn't defining sitcoms as narrowly, maybe your point here needs clarification:

I thought the last two episodes were hitting the sitcom beats harder than ever.

sitcoms aren't funny

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, March 17, 2015 3:48 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Personally, Hannah's mom's laughing fits were uncomfortable for me cause I feel like her character might kill herself or something.

As far as whether those scenes count as funny.

eh maybe Remake-Remodel should clarify what he meant by "sitcom beats" - to me the belabored and predictable comedy rhythms of what I understand to be sitcoms are not funny

xp

but maybe he's referring to something else, idk

I'm figuring schwantz did a good job of defining it as was likely intended "I think what people mean by 'sitcom beats' are the set-up/knock down rhythm of sitcoms" until Remake says otherwise.

you know, i'm not to trying to stop you contributing here in any way shape or form but i literally cannot comprehend why you continue to watch a show you think is garbage and then come here to tell us about it, i literally do not understand what you get out of it, unless you get a kick out of being a grumpy sonofagun

glutton for punishment I suppose - I liked the first 2 seasons of this show a lot, at this point it's just inertia that keeps me watching

I'm not sure I really like this show anymore either, but I'm still kind of compelled to see what happens. I definitely no longer care about any of these terrible people. It's like they're trying to force every interaction into some cartoony degree of cringe-worthiness, much more than what I remember it being like in the beginning. That being said, the last couple of episodes were definitely more entertaining than the first half of this season.

find it interesting that anyone ever cared about what happened to these characters, seems like the dramatic component of this show is generally there for general mood purposes or to darken the lols

I realized when I was watching this v stoned that Jessa kind of alarms me, like I have a v mild anxiety when her character is present in a scene

bcz she seems like such a dangerous and unstable and frightening and actually potentially damaging person to have in yr life

she is awful this season

like marnie is always always awful, but jessa seems on a mission to just shit on everything this year

Jessa is like Skeletor-level self-aware I AM EVIL evil.

but jessa seems on a mission to just shit on everything this year

― IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:14 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm glad they left that part out of the opening scene.

it was in the deleted scenes obvs

will be a blu-ray extra.

dunham was on scandal last night, which i dont ordinarily watch but did just for lols to see if she has any acting range beyond the hannah/tiny furniture persona

she decidedly does not and was very bad, a considerable accomplishment given how low the bar seems to be on scandal for everyone not named kerry washington

I thought Jessa throwing the bottle of wine and then being a total asshole to those guys who weren't even mean abt it was sooooo NAGL and I super hope she starts growing up/acknowledging that other ppl around her exist

― a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:38 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, or not

Also xposting from the Scandal thread but this is basically like watching a continuation of the episode where she puts on a wig and tries to role play with Adam in a bar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCWMHaaczO8

even my sister, an avowed Ray skeptic, had to admit his speech in the finale was a great moment for the series/humanity

omg @ that scandal clip lol

Jesus it's like shipped fanfic

It's like a digital short from the future when Dunham hosts SNL. (Or has she already? IDK)

she already has

...and she appeared in a Scandal skit on that ep!

https://screen.yahoo.com/scandal-073806617.html

during her book tour she mentioned being obsessed with shonda rhimes