the backing vocals on Nick Drake's "Poor Boy"― example (crüt), Friday, March 13, 2015
― example (crüt), Friday, March 13, 2015
Oh yeah, major buzzkill
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 14 March 2015 01:51 (nine years ago) link
"The Bob (Medley)", Roxy Music
"The Chain"
― flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:34 (nine years ago) link
yup
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link
love twisted on court and spark, tbh I have some love for nothing like you on that miles davis record too, agree they both stand out though
― marcos, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:00 (nine years ago) link
Shadows and light off of hissing of summer lawns stands out from the rest too, I'm always content to let the record end after sweet bird
― marcos, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:03 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, Shadows and Light I cut from my iPod/phone all the time. Obviously a fine thing but not my cup of tea
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:08 (nine years ago) link
Sloop John B
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:13 (nine years ago) link
actually twisted doesn't stand out that much really, twisted is slightly different in that it is not her songwriting but it doesn't stand out any more than raise on robbery imo. that whole album is one piece and flows magnificently
― marcos, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:24 (nine years ago) link
"The Baby Song"
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 14 March 2015 04:53 (nine years ago) link
"You're A Soldier" is another one by the Husker's, at least for me.
― earlnash, Saturday, 14 March 2015 06:25 (nine years ago) link
I like how this can change, with albums oft listened to-- the annoying song ends up ingratiating itself.
E.g. years ago was irritated by “Baptiss Blacktick” on Pavement’s Westing. (Why *that* song on *that* album would annoy me is unclear.) But eventually, couldn’t do without it.
Another is “I Can Hear the Grass Grow” on Fall Heads Roll; over time affection for it grew.
Then there are songs that have annoying beginnings— like the first minute & something of Roxy Music’s “Mother of Pearl” (which as a whole I love). Used to wish I could ff past it to the rest of the song (so different, like another song entirely); but eventually got that it wouldn’t be so beautiful without that transition.
― drash, Saturday, 14 March 2015 07:45 (nine years ago) link
That's also my experience - in addition to the Buckingham songs on Tusk, I eventually came to love the more experimental/noisy/funky jams on the first half of Sign 'o the Times (Housequake, It, Hot Thing) - hope the same will happen with 1000 Deaths which is really annoying me so far (when I'm not listening very attentively that is).
Also, interesting that Shadows and Light is mentioned from Hissing of Summer Lawns when the real annoying track, to me, is obviously The Jungle Line. It annoyed one of my friends so much that he never got through the record, he eventually gave me his copy - and once I got past Jungle Line I fell in love with that record.
― niels, Saturday, 14 March 2015 10:42 (nine years ago) link
"Butcher's Tale (Western Front 1914)"
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Saturday, 14 March 2015 11:22 (nine years ago) link
actually twisted doesn't stand out that much really, twisted is slightly different in that it is not her songwriting but it doesn't stand out any more than raise on robbery imo. that whole album is one piece and flows magnificently― marcos, Friday, March 13, 2015 11:24 PM
― marcos, Friday, March 13, 2015 11:24 PM
Yeah, annoying is subjective! Twisted reminds me of vocalese--something Manhattan Transfer would sing.
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 14 March 2015 12:36 (nine years ago) link
ELECTIONEERING
― nate woolls, Saturday, 14 March 2015 12:43 (nine years ago) link
Meet Me In The Morning off Blood on the Tracks.
― anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Saturday, 14 March 2015 13:13 (nine years ago) link
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, March 14, 2015 12:53 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I always liked "The Baby Song"! It was like a random The Who Sell Out insertion.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 14 March 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link
I first heard "Twisted" here, when I was a kid, and when I heard the Joni version I smiled because I'd known the song for years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Y-pKRTq0k
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Saturday, 14 March 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link
A thing I've thought about: How much how much tracks 'stand out' depend on placement on a record. For instance, I can't think that 1000 Deaths stand out on Black Messiah, because as track number two, the record hasn't had a chance to establish it's mood yet. For me, 1000 Deaths along with Ain't it Easy draws the border on the playground, that the rest of the record plays in. It's like Haunted on Beyoncé. In a way, it's different from most of the other tracks on the record, but as track number two, coming on the heels of Pretty Hurts, it rather establishes the boundaries of the record.
To me, the thing that stands out on Black Messiah is the whistling on The Door, though not in a bad way, particularly. But at that point, the whole record seems like it's gone into a haze or something, and all of a sudden, here's a pop-song with whistling.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 14 March 2015 14:47 (nine years ago) link
Agree, but once you've heard the record through a couple of times maybe you begin to think it stands out? Anyway, if you were to put on Black Messiah as a sort of background music to inspire, say, a romantic evening, you'd probably have to skip 1000 Deaths or at least pause from conversation for a while?
― niels, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link
"Girls" on Licensed to Ill
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
Definitely - though also a good example of a track that stands out in a way that can be annoying even if it's maybe a great track in other situations.
― niels, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link
Was listening to McCartney II the other day and wow Temporary Secretary is annoying, I don't know if it's good or bad but it didn't go well with the morning paper and a cup of coffee (unlike, say, every song on McCartney (1970)).
Ban
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:37 (nine years ago) link
I don't think I'd ever put Black Messiah on as background music for romance? Too much death and smoke on that album, incredible as it is. Does it work like that? I mean, I've played it for girls, but like, to play them good music, not for background.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
Anyway, Pearl Jam seem to be the kings of the annoyingly-placed album track. Always hated the way No Code starts off with the pretty, melancholic 'Sometimes' before being totally disrupted by average hoary rocker 'Hail Hail'. Vitalogy is full of these too.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
A thing I've thought about: How much how much tracks 'stand out' depend on placement on a record. For instance, I can't think that 1000 Deaths stand out on Black Messiah, because as track number two, the record hasn't had a chance to establish it's mood yet. For me, 1000 Deaths along with Ain't it Easy draws the border on the playground, that the rest of the record plays in. It's like Haunted on Beyoncé. In a way, it's different from most of the other tracks on the record, but as track number two, coming on the heels of Pretty Hurts, it rather establishes the boundaries of the record.To me, the thing that stands out on Black Messiah is the whistling on The Door, though not in a bad way, particularly. But at that point, the whole record seems like it's gone into a haze or something, and all of a sudden, here's a pop-song with whistling.― Frederik B, Saturday, March 14, 2015 2:47 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Frederik B, Saturday, March 14, 2015 2:47 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Black Messiah is great great great, but the sequencing is a little strange. I find myself skipping to track 3 and then going back to the first two songs at the end for some reason.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
xp: I revisted early PJ recently and was considering adding a Vitalogy track to this thread, but couldn't make up my mind. That record may have an entirely different problem.
― toucan orca ink (how's life), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link
Beside You by Van Morrison always grates on me.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
Twisted is the first song I got into on C&S before falling in love with the rest of the album. I don't mind it as a palette cleanser at the end of the album.
Electioneering OTM though.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
I've always liked how PJ albums volley back and forth between barnburners and melancholy ballads/dirges.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:44 (nine years ago) link
although i dig it andmoreagain is the first thing i thought of
― dynamicinterface, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link
"Hippy Boy" on The Gilded Palace of Sin. I've listened to that record hundreds of times; I might have heard "Hippy Boy" twice.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link
sebadoh's even more bipolar. Haven't listened in a while; that extreme schizoness used to annoy me; if I listened more often maybe would come to like it.
― drash, Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:13 (nine years ago) link
Nobody's mentioned "Money" yet?
― totally unachievable goals and no incentive to compromise (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link
(obligatory 'pink floyd rules')
The king of all these is surely the eyeball-clawing "Mother" smack dab in the middle of Synchronicity.
― Dave Depper (Davey D), Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:32 (nine years ago) link
i can listen to Black Messiah all the way through, but it does get a little bit exhausting just cause there's so much going on in each track. and the fact that there's so much going on means that its virtues are wasted when plugged as background music. so, currently i just select a few tracks to listen to at a time. i really don't like Sugah Daddy all that much though.
― charlie h, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:00 (nine years ago) link
Money is a terrific example of this. a song that's both severely irritating & disruptive to the flow of the album.
― charlie h, Thursday, 19 March 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link
"I Don't Wanna Be a Soldier Mama I Don't Wanna Die" from Imagine
― cbe9 (Lee626), Thursday, 19 March 2015 06:22 (nine years ago) link
If its potentially annoying to even the most ardent fan and is completely unlike anything else on the album to the point you can't understand how it even came to be, much less find space on an album, then I think that will do.
however some of these - like "The Baby Song" - can be very short and somewhat incidental, the real problems begin w/ the 3 min epics
― Master of Treacle, Thursday, 19 March 2015 09:41 (nine years ago) link
'Mind Gardens' on The Byrds' Younger Than Yesterday
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 19 March 2015 10:00 (nine years ago) link
Oh, fuck - Student Demonstration Time, of course
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Thursday, 19 March 2015 10:38 (nine years ago) link
"Money" is otm. adding "Ignoreland" from Automatic. maybe it's not as bad a song as I think, but its placement on the album is ghastly
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 19 March 2015 10:54 (nine years ago) link
"Good Vibrations" on Smiley Smile a rare instance of a great song that still disturbs the flow of an album
― Lee626, Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:19 (nine years ago) link
^ yes. always felt this would have been a classic if they'd replaced GV with something a little less tremendous.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:33 (nine years ago) link
never had a problem with ignoreland, personally, but plenty of people hate it.
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:34 (nine years ago) link
the American CD of Meat Is Murder has How Soon Is Now in the middle whereas the original vinyl and tape didn't and much as i love it *it has no place there*.
― piscesx, Thursday, 19 March 2015 12:13 (nine years ago) link
The Velvet Underground's The Murder Mystery
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 19 March 2015 12:16 (nine years ago) link
Let's Spend the Night Together and Lady Grinning Soul screw up the end of Aladdin Sane, which is nearly perfect to that point.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 19 March 2015 13:44 (nine years ago) link
Maxwell's Silver Hammer wins this surely.
Won't hear a word said against Lady Grinning Soul.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link
otm x2
― primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link
Frontier Psychiatrist
― MarkoP, Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
never understood why people hate maxwell so much when abbey road (and white album/MMT etc) are full of 'silly' songs like that. why does maxwell get the most hate?
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:14 (nine years ago) link
Streets Of Fire on side 2 of Darkness On The Edge Of Town
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin)
It's a painstakingly constructed plodding folly, whereas songs like Octopus' Garden or Mean Mr Mustard are hazy psychedelic fragments which fit in well with the blissed-out flow.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link
Like, it's deliberately wacky rather than playfully silly.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
unlike yellow submarine, octopus's garden, rocky raccoon, piggies...?
― why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
not that people are particularly fond of those, but it seems it's maxwell that gets held up as the worst of the bunch.
I'm not a huge fan of any of those songs, but all of them sound more charming and less ham-fisted (not to mention less jarringly sequenced) to me, yes.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link
Came here to post this one. I do like this song, but it's definitely jarring.
― I don't even OWN a Television album (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 19 March 2015 17:28 (nine years ago) link