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Cool!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 March 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link

If it's half as good as Transcendental Youth it'll be one of the best records of the year. He is at his peak right now.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link

I should say "they" instead of he, because Jon Wurster's drumming is a huge part of their sound.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 12 March 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link

It really is that good.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 March 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link

Okay so "Chavo Guerrero" didn't really grab me, but "Heel Turn" is a whole different ballpark -- truly one for the ages.

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 03:49 (nine years ago) link

Streaming streaming streaming.

http://www.npr.org/2015/03/29/395108044/first-listen-the-mountain-goats-beat-the-champ

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 March 2015 04:06 (nine years ago) link

Also, performing and discussing one of the new songs:

http://www.avclub.com/videoplaylist/john-darnielle-discusses-and-performs-stabbed-deat-217189

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Monday, 30 March 2015 12:19 (nine years ago) link

Ooof @ "Hair Match", <3 <3 so good

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Monday, 30 March 2015 12:22 (nine years ago) link

opening moments a bit randy newman :)

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 March 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link

"foreign object" is pretty firmly stuck in my head already

are... are you saying you fucked a gazelle? (slothroprhymes), Monday, 30 March 2015 14:48 (nine years ago) link

The second half doesn't stick as well as the first, but I love"The Legend of Chavo Guerrero," "Foreign Object," and "Southwestern Territory.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 March 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link

choked out! choked out!

I will check out the choke-out. Cool to see it's in a different setting than Wolf In White Van, which I'm currently captivated by (thinking about ordering Master of Reality).

dow, Monday, 30 March 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

i really like this
i definitely like MGs when there's a concept or theme to the record, or those tend to be my favs

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

(thinking about ordering Master of Reality)

absolutely order this immediately. can't recommend that book highly enough.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link

yeah i just started reading it last week and it's great --- esp poignant as i am currently working in a psychiatric hospital

gbx, Thursday, 2 April 2015 11:33 (nine years ago) link

so uh, NYC, does City Winery have a standby line?

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 April 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/speaakeasy/status/583710484165177344

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link

I had to make myself listen to the npr stream a second time, but sure glad I did. Initially, it just seemed wayyy too refined and introspective, in a chamber-y way, for an album about wrasslers (long ago, I reviewed a collection of wrestlers' entrance themes etc., back when The Rock and Mankind were first hittin' it big, and the refinement was there, but had to go w deft, deadpan flourishes of grandiosity, re art metal and soundtracks, like John Carpenter's music). The opening track still seems a bit too much like early Randy Newman, maybe, and could also live without the coda to "Heel Turn 2," but otherwise---with the volume way up on non-audiophile headphones---really liked the rest (well the one about San Juan still seems a bit diffuse lyrically, but music no prob). That Wurster's a pretty good drummer, hey.

dow, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link

Some of the piano flourishes are exquisite. What's the song w/the extended piano outro?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

Heel Turn 2

cajunsunday, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

"Heel Turn 2," isn't it? A little too exquisite here, for me.(Overselling; I get the nuances already.)
Bout time for an MG tribute album, also occasional covers hither and yon. I like his voice, but wouldn't hurt to hear others. Red Hot Mountain Goats? Let's do it!

dow, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link

"Heel Turn 2" definitely the highlight for me so far, though I've lived with that song longer than most of the others on the album (it has floated around online for about a month or so). Agree that some of it sounds a bit too restrained on first pass, but its early yet. "Werewolf Gimmick," though, might be the closest that Darnielle has come so far to writing what could conceivably become an actual metal song.

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

what a great album!

difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 April 2015 13:41 (nine years ago) link

hit me hard on the first few passes; the big moments (chavo guerrero, heel turn, werewolf gimmick) had me giddy like college+healed but the opener+closer both rly got me too. (have been into mtn goats/randy newman correspondence since the "in germany before the war" cover on the extra lens album.) "exquisite but restrained" is what i thought of the last two albums, tho it may have been bad timing or inattention; anyway they really have been a gorgeous-sounding band on these last few and this one to me sounds exquisite+unrestrained.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 April 2015 13:52 (nine years ago) link

(not that like "estate sale sign" is restrained.)

difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 April 2015 13:54 (nine years ago) link

just finished first straight-thru listen; "The Ballad of Bull Ramos" punches above its weight & feels like it could be the album closer, if you're the happy-endings type

bernard snowy, Friday, 3 April 2015 16:35 (nine years ago) link

"foreign object" sounds like weird al; mean this as flatteringly as possible to all concerned

difficult listening hour, Friday, 3 April 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link

i don't love any song on this record as much as i love a few of the songs on transcendental youth but that may be a product of this one not coming out during my nervous breakdown. i really love the way some of these songs drift and distend

the instrumentation on "fire editorial" is gaucho as hell

Haha I thought Steely Dan as soon as I heard that piano! Weird song though -- it's so diffuse & (as you said) drifting, I don't really feel like I have a full grasp on it yet.

Probably goes without saying but "Choked Out" & "Werewolf Gimmick" are the songs that send me careening around the room looking for things to break.

bernard snowy, Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link

It's "Heel Turn 2" with the piano outro I'm crazy about.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:33 (nine years ago) link

throw my better self overboard
shoot at him when he comes up for air

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

"Heel Turn 2" is, so far, the most devastating song of 2015 that isn't Bjork's "Stonemilker"

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Saturday, 4 April 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link

yet the president of the fan club always makes me lol

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 4 April 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

Yeah that's one of the big laugh lines of the album for me, along with 'Get told to maybe dial it back...'

bernard snowy, Saturday, 4 April 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

"The Ballad of Bull Ramos" punches above its weight & feels like it could be the album closer, if you're the happy-endings type

haha, the very content line in this one about letting his hair grow long makes the actual album closer more devastating. btw the brief climactic switch to first-person in "hair match" killlllllllllllllls me, it's like if a helpless observer said one line as the head was submerged in "in corolla", except who would that be, it would have to be, like, god, and that would be gross, and here it's so natural.

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 5 April 2015 11:02 (nine years ago) link

O good I've been waiting for this thread to go all inside-baseball :)

The line that really got me on "Bull Ramos" is Rise & rise, surrounded by friends, because it so nicely mirrors Soar ever upwards on air gone black with flies at the conclusion of TY

bernard snowy, Sunday, 5 April 2015 11:47 (nine years ago) link

On Seth Meyers tomorrow:

https://twitter.com/mountain_goats/status/584747088728195072

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 April 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link

i wrote about this, in retrospect wish i'd said more about the arrangements (like, wurster & hughes have been really important to the sound for a lot longer than just the past few albums) but yeah this album's pretty all right http://www.treblezine.com/reviews/22545-mountain-goats-beat-the-champ-review/

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link

nice to see one of my good buddies playing sax in that clip. :)

i stopped listening to NPR advance streams, something about listening to an album there (especially loading the full album where you can't tell what track is playing) makes it blur together in my head and not go back to it. but once i download something and listen to it piecemeal i usually end up loving it.

i guess this goes for all album streams, but NPR's presentation is so boring that it doesn't help at all.

lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 April 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

Great review, sloth!

Evan, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

'hair match' is legitimately terrifying & gorgeous, perfect execution on that song imo

ciderpress, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it's haunting. I ignored this thread for a while once everybody started talking about the songs I hadn't heard yet because, yeah, I can't stand npr streams either. But I'm glad to see that other people were thinking Gaucho upthread too. This is definitely my favorite since Heretic Pride. I've been out-of-phase with tMG in the past few years, but I know I'll be listening to this album a lot.

louie louie whoa baby imago (how's life), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 00:15 (nine years ago) link

what's he REALLY like

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:00 (nine years ago) link

Yo' man what do you expect the guy's a giggolo man
You know I mean?

DJP, Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link

don't get fresh with me pal

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 April 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link

Oh my

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 April 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link


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