Sleaford Mods

Dollar sound like Led Zeppelin when placed alongside Scouting For Girls or Echosmith, the Dixie Chicken outlets of New Pop, the Dyson, that colourful aerodynamic piece of shit, the attainable domestic gimmick.

Ah fair enough. He's saying what'll get them press exposure isn't he? Get the Gallagher fans into them. Which seeing as their initial fanbase/label support was way more leftfield was probably a wise move.

Don't underestimate Sleaford Mods.

if musicians didn't talk shite in the press, we would doubt their credentials

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I like Sleaford Mods it's fun

Well I wouldn't necessarily say they are talking shit but anyhow I find this kind of discussion and topic - whether I agree with it or not - more interesting than say who will be the next host of XFactor or what the latest lounge suite colour might be. Also better to hear some unfriendly fire rather than the kind of talk that comes out as muffled and bland from being safely squeezed between the two fat dripping buns of commerce and mediocrity.

Arctic Monkeys singer Alex Turner used his acceptance speech at this evening's Brit Awards (February 19) to insist that "rock'n'roll will never die".

The Sheffield band won two awards at the ceremony at London's O2 Arena, taking home the gongs for British Group and British Album. "There's that 15 quid we put on One Direction to win down the drain," quipped Turner after he and his bandmates collected the first prize but, when picking up the award for British Album for last year's 'AM', he said: "That rock 'n'roll, eh? That rock'n'roll, it just won't go away. It might hibernate from time to time, sink back into the swamp. I think the cyclical nature of the universe in which it exists demands that acquiesce to some of its rules.

"But it's always waiting there, just around the corner," he added. "Ready to make its way back through the sludge and smash through the glass ceiling, looking better than ever. Yeah, that rock'n'roll, it seems like it's faded away sometimes, but it will never die. And there’s nothing you can do about it." He then told organisers to "invoice me for the microphone if you wanna" before dropping it on the floor.

Alex Turner may be basically the little kid from Blues Brothers 2000, but he's not wrong.

Rock 'n' roll as a concept is embarrassing outdated conservative shit that needs to be called out for all it's excruciating horror at every point

What about the current California scene of mainly women-led bands who are as comfortable referencing Prince and Madonna as the Ramones? They're not conservative or outdated but I'd be hard pressed to describe what they do as anything other than rock.

Rock'n'roll is not that. Rock'n'roll is stupid fucking Arctic Monkeys prick trying to assert that his fun is more important than yours.

Prick boys in leathers living out their dad's fantasies

Prick boys in leathers living out their dad's fantasies

this is making Arctic Monkeys sound much more exciting than they actually are

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41exo5eq8SL._AA278_PIkin4,BottomRight,-58,22_AA300_SH20_OU15_.jpg

There are always good rock bands but they don't tend to be the ones spending a lot of time "saving rock"

"He then told organisers to "invoice me for the microphone if you wanna" before dropping it on the floor."

party on!

is everyone agreeing with the sleaford mods now because that is the exact behaviour he is calling out, not advocating.

http://springfieldfiles.com/albums/books/0011.JPG

is everyone agreeing with the sleaford mods now because that is the exact behaviour he is calling out, not advocating.

shit like this is giving a little too much credit to the mods - both he and alex turner would post a pic of them with mick jones and put "real" next to it. the mods just think they're a shade rawer and realer, when the joke is they're just as narcissistic as the people they're mocking.

"we don't spout vain anti-pop bullshit on the stage of the nme we spout vain anti-pop bullshit in the guardian op-ed section"

Dollar sound like Led Zeppelin when placed alongside Scouting For Girls

You have to admit that is utterly perfect self-clowning

If I were trying to lampoon the cultural myopia of these prophets telling it like it is I could not have bettered that

DA croup with awesome year late hot takes

Lol

But that guardian thing is not from a year ago tho I'm sure these dudes' schtick has remained unchanged for millennia

did Alex Turner ever clarify if his brits speech was supposed to be ironic? I seem to remember that being quite a hot topic for a bit

Lol

But that guardian thing is not from a year ago tho I'm sure these dudes' schtick has remained unchanged for millennia

yeah sorry if i'm a johnny-come-lately for discovering this band you like is full of shit, ums

surely challenging the paradigms of out-of-touch folk like myself was their goal in writing a guardian op-ed

also "yeah this (allegedly, though not on this thread) came up a year ago" is a weird defense of an article that references a lyric from 2009 as proof of shit hard rock macho posturing and sly stone as an example of good music

though honestly i get the sense that everyone defending these champs has actively avoided reading what they have to say

it's always a good day to remind people that sly stone is an example of good music.

yes but the word has been out for a while

That's what's so hilarious about the dollar-led-zep-scouting-for-girls triangulation, like how perfectly out of touch

Hoping the "The Mods"/scouting for girls beef has legs tbh

i'm just sad they're probably too cool to have dinner with russell brand and noel gallagher cuz it sounds like they'd have fun

I'm sure I'd have fun at dinner with writer & activist russell brand & career comedians noel gallagher & "The Mods" tbf

Like I don't want to seem too down on these guys, I think I said itt that I listened to & liked one of their comedy records but was surprised that they had like 10 of them & ppl cared

The one I heard was like "Brian Eno, what the fuck does 'e know"

i did wonder on first read if this article was some kind of klf parody of indie vanity but if it is, judging from their twitter they're playing the long game

and yeah again this is not a dis on their tunes which sound like bands i've liked

i had a pretty negative reaction to smug retro-post-punk stuff like art brut and lcd soundsystem on first blush, but eventually found their humor and hooks so i'm not assuming these guys aren't similarly capable

Yeah I unfollowed him on Twitter pretty quick and I'm a sympathiser

he's certainly assiduous in re-tweeting praise for the band

I believe he was a big Oasis fan and spent the 90s and on doing rock bands the whole minimal loop thing was at least part in being frustrated & sick of it

cool

There's some 10 minute or so minidoc where he said basically got sick of working on these songs trying to make them "good" and sending pro sounding demoes to indie labels this was more like we can make a song in 5 minutes with words and a cheap loop

I like these guys, but this Guardian rant isn't saying anything more than 'commercial music is shit nowadays'. Jaded middle-aged punker types have been saying exactly this for decades. His argument runs into problems in that he gives no back-up examples.
By 'Samey Winehouse', I assume he's talking about a particular brand of UK popstar, the the kind who makes appearances on Saturday Kitchen, gets nominated for a Brit Award and is marketed to people who like Amy/Adele but ultimately lacks the ingredient that made these unique. By 'rock'n'roll', I assume he means a particular brand of swaggering post-Britpop UK rock, the kind the NME and the rest of the music industry have been hanging their hopes on since at least 1998. This is what I assume he's saying. It's all an assumption. But because he mentions, like, three examples, one of whom are Scouting For Girls (who haven't released anything since 2012), his attacks come off as arbitrary and not a little bit rockist in places.
Fact is, I am also going to assume his argument comes from the right place. I'm inclined to agree there's been an ongoing and growing problem with the UK music industry in the notable lack of risk-taking since the economic collapse. This has led to a lot of bland, easily categorisable music being pushed to wide customer niches - you go in the Razorlight box; you go in the Dizzee Rascal box; you go in the Adele box etc... Careers being built on the backs of others. In some ways it's nothing new - this is marketing after all. But as I think someone a while back on ILM said, we're a far cry away from the days when a modestly successful UK pop-rock band like XTC could be granted the studio time to record a '60s psych-influenced vanity spin-off project.
It's not like the US. You guys still have GOOD 'rock' bands, many of whom get decent coverage around the world, play cool festivals and don't just sound like staid cut'n'pastes of something that was popular 15-20 years ago. That's not to say the UK doesn't have exciting bands who do sound unique, fresh, innovative or exciting. Save just a handful of exceptions, the majority are touring a batch of clapped-out toilets in commuter towns trying to scrape a living off selling a batch of handpressed CD-Rs. They're not being interviewed by Pitchfork. They're not playing Coachella. They're not even playing Reading Festival or appearing on Saturday Kitchen because they haven't got a record label. While the music media bemoans the death of Britpop, it forgets the real reason UK music felt so alive and fertile at that time: chances were being taken on acts like Portishead, Aphex Twin, Tricky, the Chemical Brothers, Radiohead, Suede, Massive Attack and countless others. I can't even imagine a band like the Manic Street Preachers getting as popular now as they did in the 1990s. The majors wouldn't sign them and the indies just don't have the platform they might once have, and that's all down to money I guess.

Saturday Kitchen! i wish i had a show named Saturday Kitchen.

that's some old-school stuff from dog latin right there. you'd think this thread was ten years old.

His argument runs into problems in that he gives no back-up examples.

sadly that's not where his argument runs into problems

it's weird to hear him sing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE0QC9nFrDE

track 4 on the new album by The Prodigy
'Ibiza' feat. Sleaford Mods

I'm looking forward to this (is it out?).