Somewhere in our hearts, results won't be the same (Spacemen 3 & etc. ballot results - ILM poll #57)

it's the best SPZ album!

I was the #1 vote for Recurring, Just ahead of Lazer Guided melodies, glad to see it place in the top 5. Love the breadth of styles on it; Sonic at his most pop-friendly, Jason basically making murky sketches of musical ideas that would fully fleshed out on LGM.

Also glad to see Perfect Prescription get #1. It's the best representation of the Pierce/Sonic partnership, seeing as they had already stopped talking to each by the time Playing with Fire was recorded.

whooh thx for the heads up about the font that is awesome

xxxp

LICD over PP is some kinda buttsiness.

If I'd have voted it would've gone:

1. PP
2. LGM
3. Hi Dere
4. Foo Bar
5. Baz

My ballot went:

1. Playing With Fire
2. Lazer Guided Melodies
3. Dreamweapon
4. Recurring
5. Soul Kiss (Glide Divine)

so i just noticed that i only submitted a Albums ballot. i had a Tracks ballot that i did make out but never did send it off.

More on the Rugby font. I used that to do a t-shirt for my son, changing the Take Me To The Other Side image to have his name on it in place of "Spacemen" and "side" to "slide." Anyway, went to have it professionally printed for fun, and they wouldn't do it without consent from the copyright holder. I emailed Sonic via his website, and got a very fast, very nice reply granting permission. The t-shirt turned out great. So thanks!

that's great!

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39 TIE - Don’t Just Do Something
76 points, 2 votes, 1 number one
http://youtu.be/XqA0mQHe9_U

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39 TIE - The Straight And The Narrow
76 points, 2 votes
http://youtu.be/XqA0mQHe9_U

is that imago's number one there

love the Straight and the Narrow - maybe his funniest deadpan lyric - definitely one of the best tracks on LICD

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38 - Lord Can You Hear Me?
79 points, 4 votes
http://youtu.be/qG504heY-UA

once had an aggravating, drawn-out argument about whether Spiritualized's version of this song constituted a "cover"

whoah

"Don't Just Do Something" and "The Straight and The Narrow" were my #2 and #9 respectively. They're probably the most singable songs that Jason has ever written. There's plenty of black humour in the lyrics and he somehow comes off sounding anthemic while also invoking pity. There's a lot of depth there that he never came close to approaching in early SPZ songs (e.g. "Lay Back In the Sun", which is straight up "drugs are cool"-style anthemic, to name just one of countless examples).

Live versions of "Don't Just Do Something" on the 2001-2 tours were just about the greatest thing ever, with the final section building and building up to the finish. I get a lump in my throat just thinking about it.

(youtube links are messed up there btw - its the Straight and Narrow for both)

agree that that's a fitting tie re: the LICD tracks (there is one song on LICD that's even better which I assume is going to place but we'll see)

Although I didn't vote for it, it's nice to see LICD get a bit of a critical resurrection here. It's funny to think how Amazing Grace was considered somewhat of a return to form after LICD, when in retrospect it's probably the worst Spiritualized record.

it is the worst, the songs just aren't there

Can't remember if Spiritualized led me to S3 or not but their cuts so far are just so...mopey. Lord can you Hear Me? is a similar emotion with all of that nonsense cut out.

^ otm. just listened to "don't just do something" for the first time since the release of let it come down. gak.

i like several tracks on amazing grace. so there. okay maybe not several but at least two.

Although I didn't vote for it, it's nice to see LICD get a bit of a critical resurrection here.

I'm still disappointed. The lead up to it was terrific: Jason fires the band, poaches Julian Cope's metal/Hawkwind group, talks about twenty minute krautrock jams, and then Mimi Parker guest on vocals. Instead it was a hour of mope. I'm glad "Rock And Roll" was shoved off onto a b-side because its one of his worst songs, if not, the worst to use "rock and roll" somewhere in the title.

Also: Will Let It Come Down be a Be Here Now or an Urban Hymns?

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37 - I Believe It
80 points, 3 votes, 1 number one
http://youtu.be/hhWLwJ3P_eI

(all images taken from drug abuse themed stock photo collections)

Also, TOO LOW!

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36 - Anyway That You Want Me
82 points, 4 votes, 1 number one
http://youtu.be/YleJPoKBqrw

Love "I Believe It," It's like an airplane crash survival kit equivalent of a Spacemen 3 song. No frills, just 2-chords, a farfisa organ and peons to the lord.

Lol

I'm always a bit confused when people say LICD is mopey. SPZ were always kind of mopey, I mean, didn't LAGWAFIS have "Cool Waves" and "Broken Heart" on it? If it's really about being a downer, musically, then LICD can rock out too -- "The Twelve Steps", "Out of Sight", "On Fire". I think it really comes down to favouring one approach over another -- free jazz/improv squawking and long jams, or full-blown Spector. In terms of lyrical subject matter I don't think LICD is too different than most other SPZ albums, although the lyrics themselves are far better than anything he'd written up to that point.

"Anyway That You Want Me" was my #1. It was partly a sentimental choice -- the first SPZ song I ever heard, and I was completely blown away.

I just don't like Spiritualized v much. In S3 the 'downer songs' it actually leads them v non-rock paths (at times I feel like Revolution is the weakest track on Playing with Fire, although of course its an absolutely brilliant cover).

(all images taken from drug abuse themed stock photo collections)

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was wondering :-)

I Believe it was my #1.

Revolution is not a cover....?

Xpost

Yeah, what I miss from early spiritualized is that the downer songs went on some non-rock paths as well; there's a lot of Steve Reich minimalism and new age ambient vibes on LGM. They were starting to shed that style already on Pure Phase, however (perhaps non-coincidentatally related to the departure of Sean Carruthers?).

With regards to LICD, it's my favorite of the post Ladies and Gentlemen albums (sans Sweet Heart Sweet Light, which I admit I haven't given a good listen) because there are some new unusual ideas being thrown around there for a Spiritualized record...I mean "Out of Sight" has seventh chords ffs! My issue with it and with most later Spiritualized is that Pierce's vocals are upfront and unadorned, which really isn't playing to his strengths.

Fun fact: "Anyway that you want me" originally written by Chip Taylor aka James Voight aka Jon Voight's brother.

Revolution is not a cover....?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkx_lnNrQsM

They were starting to shed that style already on Pure Phase, however (perhaps non-coincidentatally related to the departure of Sean Carruthers?).

Will Carruthers, Jon Mattock, and Mark Refoy (who were all there for the second half of Spacemen 3) were already gone by the time of PP's release.

(great live version of this)

http://youtu.be/266HkM7LESE

Spacemen 3 - I Believe It - live @ Drummonds, Euston Road (Sonic Boom) - 15.11.88.
"Actually Jason didn't play at all, Will Carruthers played bass and Sonic played guitar and keyboard. Snippets of Honey and bits of his first solo album. Jason stood at the bar all night with his girlfriend."

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35 - Call The Doctor
87 points, 5 votes
http://youtu.be/mfO45AVQBLE

I'm biased in much of the "which version of Spiritualized?" posturing because I was already on board when LGM first came out. On the whole, I like Spiritualized when Jason can't afford to record as much as he wants.

"Call The Doctor" = what comes after "O.D. Catastrophe" irl, love its hushed urgency

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34 - Come Together
99 points, 5 votes
http://youtu.be/j9G7n8DBpO8

I'm biased in much of the "which version of Spiritualized?" posturing because I was already on board when LGM first came out.

Me too, although I prefer the '94-'97 version, for me that was the most complete version of the band that could do the most number of things well.

I was going to say those last two are the first to come from my ballot, but I've just checked and I didn't actually vote for Come Together, it must have just missed the cut.

Yeah yeah i know black to comm still a stretch to call it a cover imo. I mean half the s3 catalog is similar reappropriations but i wouldnt exactly call i love you a cover of mr. Brown, y'know?

Xxp

Bardo Pond - Call the Doctor

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33 - Do It All Over Again
100 points, 4 votes
http://youtu.be/ivW_bVUtH9E

The best track on LICD, like an All Things Must Pass track

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32 - Electric Mainline
102 points, 5 votes
http://youtu.be/o3IXbJTv_uM

peons to the lord

amazing, mine

38 - Lord, Can You Hear Me
36 - Anyway That You Want Me
35 - Call the Doctor

^ TOO LOW

and "revolution" is not a "black to comm" cover

My ballot:

1. Spiritualized - Shine a light
2, Spacemen 3 - Big City
3. Spacemen 3 - Take me to the other side
4. Spacemen 3 - I Love You
5. Spacemen 3 - Feel So Good
6. Spiritualized - Angel Sigh
7. Spectrum - How You Satisfy Me
8. Spacemen 3 - Come Down Easy
9. Spacemen 3 - Come Down Softly to my Soul
10. Spacemen 3 - Feel So Sad
11. Spacemen 3 Walking with Jesus
12. Spectrum - I Just Drifted Away
13. Spiritualized - I Want You
14. Spacemen 3 - Transparent Radiation
15. Spacemen 3 - Why Couldn't I see
16. Spacemen 3 - Feeling Just Fine (Head Full of Shit)
17. Spiritualized - If I were with her now
18. Spacemen 3 - When Tomorrow Hits
19. Spiritualized - Broken Heart
20. Spacemen 3 - Hypnotized

My rationale for putting Shine a Light number one is that it's...pretty great? The build up to the freak out in the end is very satisfying, the best Jason has ever pulled that approach off in his many attempts in Spiritualized.

My ballot of shame:

200 Bars
Out of Sight
Medication
Lay Back in the Sun
Shine A Light
Suicide
Come Together
Electric Mainline
No God Only Religion
Revolution
Angel Sigh
These Blues
Spread Your Wings
Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in
So Long You Pretty Thing

1. Anyway That You Want Me
2. Don't Just Do Something
3. O.D. Catastrophe
4. Walkin' With Jesus
5. Revolution
6. How You Satisfy Me
7. Take Me Away
8. If I Were With Her Now
9. The Straight and Narrow
10. I Think I'm In Love
11. Out of Sight
12. Don't Pass Me By
13. Mary-Anne
14. Do It All Over Again
15. Electric Mainline
16. So Long You Pretty Thing
17. Neon Sigh
18. An Evening of Contemporary Sitar Music
19. 200 Bars
20. Lay Back In the Sun

I'm sort of surprised that Mary-Anne didn't do better. The live version off of Performance was my favorite song of theirs for a very long time. And Walkin With Jesus always stuck out as a little too poppy. Oh well.

Thanks for doing this Elvis T

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Tracks:

I Believe it
Walking with Jesus
Lord can you hear me?
Feel so Good
How does it Feel? (Alternate Version)
Take me to the Other Side
Come Down Softly to my Soul
Call the Doctor
Honey
So Hot (Wash Away all of my Tears)
Ode to Street Hassle
Suicide
Ecstasy Symphony/Transparent Radiation
Things'll never be the Same
Revolution
Calm Down Easy
Repeater (How Does It Feel?) (Live)
Soul 1
OD Catastrophe
That's Just Fine

Albums:

Playing with Fire
Perfect Prescription
Dreamweapon
Sound of Confusion

Great poll, Elvis T!

Strange results though -- two-thirds of the #1 votes were for songs that finished outside the top ten. OTOH, there's a sizeable increase in the total number of voters for everything in the top five, so it's hard to claim that there wasn't a clear consensus in the results.

Pretty sure we need more than 20 votes to get any kind of consensus, but I do like that there is a variety of #1 votes.