The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

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song is incredible

rob, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link

amazing song, hopefully she releases it in hq too

lex pretend, Thursday, 5 March 2015 08:22 (nine years ago) link

Yes, great track. And I liked the discussion of New Orleans in the interview with her cousin. I had been thinking about her in the context of New Orleans, that she makes sense as a New Orleans artist because the city is so polyglot and culturally fearless. I listen to WWOZ a lot, and while I have yet to hear Dawn Richard there, the station plays a range of stuff that very much feels like the primordial soup that could produce her.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link

opening song quote from peter fonda btw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wild_Angels

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link

quite possibly by way of Primal Scream!

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

shit that song is hot

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 5 March 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

i didn't know she's from New Orleans. feeling the Mardi Gras Indians samples.

lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link

She's playing in London in June. Bought tickets the instant I saw they were onsale.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 March 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

Just got back from a holiday and listened to blackheart again for the first time in a couple weeks after listening to it non-stop before that, I don't think an album has affected me this much in years, really stunning.

kruezer2, Monday, 16 March 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

New video for Projection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5mHMEdTI6g

Jeff W, Monday, 16 March 2015 20:00 (nine years ago) link

Goldenheart is one of my favorite albums from the last few years. I haven't heard much of the new album yet, but wow, 'Projection' is great as to be expected.

lowlytootle, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 06:29 (nine years ago) link

As much as I generally share in the enthusiasm for the new Kendrick album, I can't help contrasting the deserved hype for that and Black Messiah with how little attention Blackheart has gotten. (With a few worthy exceptions.) There haven't been two great modern R&B concept albums in the last three months, there have been three. I know she's not as big a solo name and wasn't as anticipated as D'Angelo or Kendrick, but I think the album belongs in that company.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 March 2015 05:50 (nine years ago) link

quite possibly by way of Primal Scream! (by way of Mudhoney)

2-chords, a farfisa organ and peons to the lord (contenderizer), Sunday, 22 March 2015 06:11 (nine years ago) link

There haven't been two great modern R&B concept albums in the last three months, there have been three.

four because i'd absolutely put jazmine sullivan's reality show up there with them in terms of songwriting, if not self-consciously out-there production/arrangements

blackheart is the best by miles but what can you do, it's not about its quality that it's not in that conversation

lex pretend, Sunday, 22 March 2015 07:05 (nine years ago) link

The Jazmine Sullivan album is great but doesn't feel high concept in the way that the other three are.

Otherwise, I just want to catalogue amazing *moments* in this record, because its attention to detail is just jawdropping. The bit where the bottom just drops out of Titans and there's a couple of minutes of ambient drift before Warriors is astonishing. Also, in the penultimate chorus of Phoenix, at the point when she sings "all rise", there's the sound of something crashing to earth.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 March 2015 11:16 (nine years ago) link

We should avoid praising albums for how Important they are.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:10 (nine years ago) link

Importance is slippery, but I think worth talking about -- if only to broaden the notion of what counts as important. (e.g., I was glad "You Don't Own Me" was given so much credit for importance in the Lesley Gore obits.) I don't love Blackheart because it's important, I love it because it blows my mind and sounds amazing on the stereo. But I do also think it's important, and oughta be recognized as such.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:34 (nine years ago) link

I wasn't looking at you, tipsy, but at the suspicion that Sullivan's album is good but lacks the marquee value of D'Angelo or Kendrick Lamar's. btw listen to it!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:36 (nine years ago) link

Haha I was just thinking that I need to. I will!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 22 March 2015 12:44 (nine years ago) link

I didn't say it wasn't important, I said it wasn't high-concept.

Matt DC, Sunday, 22 March 2015 13:33 (nine years ago) link

reality show / blackheart / black messiah / to pimp a butterfly all amazing high-concept albums (reality show more subtly so) that i love and it's a shame that both jazmine and dawn aren't getting the kind of broad critical raves that D and Kendrick are.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 March 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

Jazmine and Dawn are getting ignored by many critics. Dawn, in large part part because for some reason some media sites act as if they can't find a smal indie project like hers; and I guess Sullivan is somehow just cursed with being r'n'b and not "high concept" "indie/artsy" r'n'b . But you all know that.

Some of that attention for the likes of D'angelo and now Lamar almost makes me want to be contrarian and ignore both of them for just being crit-bait. Former Voice writer Greg Tate who doesn't do much writing these days, suddenly penning a Lamar review in Rolling Stone seems typical (and I have long loved Tate's writing)-- jazz elements check; spoken word check; P-funk aspects check; socio-political lyrics check. I bet he likes the Sullivan one too, or would if he heard it, but will anyone let him write about it without high concept aspects or retro signifiers?

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 March 2015 13:56 (nine years ago) link

That's what I was getting at in my post, but let's be clear: Kendrick Lamar draws clicks, Jazmine Sullivan doesn't.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 March 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link

Sadly true.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link

Agreed -- and btw having caught up on the Jazmine Sullivan album, I am totally on board with it, great record. Even in a perfect world, the D'Angelo and Kendrick albums have some built-in hype generators that are going to eclipse a lot of other worthy things. It's just jarring that so much of what's lauded about those two -- ambition, adventurousness, musicianship, personal vision, sheer talent -- is also true of the Dawn/Jazmine albums that you'd hope there would at least be a little more notice.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link

#BlackWomenVisionariesMatter

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link

I love Dawn's album but it feels diffuse in a way that Kendrick's doesn't. I listen to it way WAY more than D'Angelo, though.

DJP, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

built-in hype generators

well it's exactly these that don't get interrogated, isn't it

lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:57 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The fact that #ATellTaleHeart is so quiet/nmastered means I can rly only listen to it in bed at night, which is maybe actually to its advantage

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link

*u

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:48 (eight years ago) link

A very underrated record even in the context of Dawn's discography IMO

Tim F, Friday, 17 April 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link

It's gorgeous so far. Listened to DJP's playlist off the Kendrick thread and fell for it hard enough to want to listen to everything chronologically

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

you know, I've never actually heard it

DJP, Friday, 17 April 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

(A Tell Tale Heart I mean, I've heard all the songs I listed on the Kendrick thread lol)

DJP, Friday, 17 April 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

a tell tale heart is amazing but i would return to it so much more if the sooooound quaaaaaality was proper

lex pretend, Friday, 17 April 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

There's a sexy sense of fun on Tell Tale Heart (like on Hey, Vibrate, Biggest Fan) which I kinda miss on what's followed, great as it is

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 12:03 (eight years ago) link

*Starts a kickstarter for a proper remastering of a Tell Tale Haert*

, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 12:04 (eight years ago) link

Yes pls. A cpl of tracks're actually kinda disconcerting to listen to w the way the levels peak/fade

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 12:08 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxjgpZSmUVw

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

<iframe width='460' height='259' src='http://cache.vevo.com/assets/html/embed.html?video=QMGR31508582&autoplay=0' frameborder='0' allowfullscreen></iframe>

Jeff W, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link

(or however Vevo embeds work with BB code)

That's a vid for Calypso btw.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1ZtAo31J4

, Friday, 1 May 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link

Thank you!

Jeff W, Friday, 1 May 2015 13:47 (eight years ago) link

"adderall/sold" prob my soty

yeah, could be. the autotune acapella into guitar gets me every single time

Premise ridiculous. Who have two potato? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 1 May 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link

This ain't rock'n'roll…

http://uk.complex.com/music/2015/05/dawn-richard-new-song-premiere-genocide?utm_campaign=musictw%2Bsocialflow%2B05%2B2015&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

This ain't Dawn Richard any more either, apparently.

Jeff W, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

yeah i'm kinda scared of her working more with the fade to mind crew tbh. "honest" is really good but i fear them overly influencing her sound/aesthetic

j. winters (josh), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

that ship has sailed

r|t|c, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

she's working with fade to mind crew? Fuck. And the triangle...
Still love her, tho, but this Isn't good news. At all.

Nourry, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link


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