The Cronenberg Thread

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the brood does so much more with "cold, beige, terminally 70s".

describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

I'm gonna have to re-watch the Brood when the wife is out of town or something, cuz last time she made me turn it off cuz the murderous kids were "too disturbing"

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link

the brood does so much more with "cold, beige, terminally 70s".

so do pics of Jimmy Carter

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link

I agree and disagree with that list in about equal measure. And I hated their #1 (found it the wrong kind of campy) at the time, although I've never taken a second look.

1. The Dead Zone
2. The Fly
3. Dead Ringers
4. Videodrome
5. The Brood

Haven't seen Fast Company, M. Butterfly, Eastern Promises, or the new one. I've seen at least one of Rabid and/or Shivers, possibly both--if only one, I'm not 100% sure which.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:38 (nine years ago) link

you guys mean the films of the era when u say "70s," right, cuz i was dere, Cholly.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link

did you get a senior citizen discount when watching Hopscotch?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link

cold, beige, terminally '70s look it has

Yes! Especially love the shopping mall at the start of Scanners - a Canadian cousin to the mall in Dawn of the Dead.

I think my overwhelming preference for the early, gory ones - and my disappointment with pretty much everything after Dead Ringers - is tied up with seeing them for the first time as VHS 'video nasties' in the early 1980s, at just the right teenaged frame of mind. The visual dirt of degraded VHS rental tapes gave those films an ugly energy and illicit attraction; so something like Dangerous Method can't help but seem pallid in comparison.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:45 (nine years ago) link

optometrists' convention in videodrome nails that same, dreary vibe

describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

one of my first solo R-rateds was a doublebill of Animal House/Putney Swope in my hometown, and i was even younger than some of your recent tricks! xxp

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:48 (nine years ago) link

one of the many things i like about the brood is how effectively it situates a cluster of dated-seeming 70s design artifacts (ferns, white wrought iron furniture, wood paneling, turtlenecks, geometrical desk accents, deep pile) as forward-thinking chic

describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:49 (nine years ago) link

nothing dates like the future

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link

all serious films set in the future are about the present.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link

well yeah

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:54 (nine years ago) link

all serious films set in the past are about vietnam

describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link

誤訳侮辱 - how did eXistenZ end up in the first list too if it's one of the worst films by anybody?

Cut 'n' pasted the list from an earlier poster, then reshuffled - forgot to delete eXistenZ after moving it.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 23:43 (nine years ago) link

all serious films set in the present are about the internet

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 23:45 (nine years ago) link

All serious films set in the internet are about me.

Eric H., Wednesday, 25 February 2015 23:50 (nine years ago) link

eXistenZ Is great and not just because it's about Eric

mh, Thursday, 26 February 2015 01:10 (nine years ago) link

Sometimes my fave Cronenberg is his "Camera" short. Like a modern sideways sequel to "Videodrome."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 February 2015 02:24 (nine years ago) link

and my disappointment with pretty much everything after Dead Ringers - is tied up with seeing them for the first time as VHS 'video nasties' in the early 1980s, at just the right teenaged frame of mind.

My like of Crash might be tied up w/seeing stories of it being 'banned' in Westminster. Shit was hilarious.

Even so Crash is top five for me, although I need a retrospective to catch more of the earlier work.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 February 2015 11:01 (nine years ago) link

I saw Camera several years ago and couldn't make sense of it, I'd like to hear your interpretation Josh. I wondered if he would make that type of film more often if he could.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 26 February 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link

Well, let's jog the ol' memory. I recall it as a monologue from Cronenberg regular Leslie Carlson, about the scary power of film, the way film essentially kills things as it preserves them. But of course, the monologue is filmed in conspicuous digital, as children rush around, setting up for an actual film shoot. Then the monologue stops and the movie suddenly shifts to actual startling film, and the monologue begins again. Only this time Carlson freaks out and it suddenly cuts, because he has been trapped in film and is therefore now ... dead? I dunno. It's on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnenqvMEaI

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link

'maps to the stars' is avail streaming/ondemand fyi

p good i thought, seems so obvious it would be written by bruce wagner once i saw his name come up @ the end, def does the satire of hollywood better than the family tragedy & weighty elements; juilianne moores part is a great role, and one that most actresses could prob not pull off

johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 February 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link

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johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 February 2015 16:03 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Power Play: Tim Cook Just Installed The Only iPhone 7 Headphone Jack Into His Abdomen

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Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Friday, 9 September 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

Maps To The Stars was great. Can anyone recommend any other good movies that satirize Hollywood or at least laser in on the industry? (Clouds of Sils Maria is another recent one I liked).

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link

well there's some real obvious ones - The Player, Sunset Boulevard, Mulholland Drive

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

The Bad and the Beautiful
Singin' in the Rain
Irma Vep

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

Singin in the Rain is one of the greatest movies ever made

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link

The Day of the Locust
Fedora
S.O.B.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:35 (seven years ago) link

huh didn't know about S.O.B., that sounds p nutty

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link

^Topless Julie Andrews shocker, iirc.

Swimming with Sharks

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Star Is Born '37 (funnier than the other versions, tho '54 too)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link

Barton Fink?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link

Sullivan's Travels?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

or the much better original version, The Big Knife

xp

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

Thanks for the suggestions so far...I've seen Mulholland, Sunset and Barton. Lots of new suggestions :-)

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 19 January 2017 22:30 (seven years ago) link

In a Lonely Place?

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 January 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link

Sullivan's Travels

x2

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 19 January 2017 23:31 (seven years ago) link

If you're not hung up on good, there's Alex in Wonderland.

clemenza, Friday, 20 January 2017 01:16 (seven years ago) link

The Loved One

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Friday, 20 January 2017 01:19 (seven years ago) link

there are a couple films that are more about celebrity than hollywood that come to mind but everyone's contributions so far have been excellent

mh 😏, Friday, 20 January 2017 01:57 (seven years ago) link

Went to an Inauguration-themed screening of The Dead Zone tonight. I've always loved this film so much. I think of that Robert Kolker book, A Cinema of Loneliness, which I know includes Taxi Driver, The Conversation, and Night Moves. Strictly as a film about loneliness, I'd say The Dead Zone is sadder than any of them. Some of things that people laugh at nowadays baffle me. There's a moment, after Walken is caught off guard by Brooke Adams and her husband out campaigning, where Walken starts to cry and waves the young boy away with a beautiful hand gesture. Ninety percent of a full house thought this was hilarious. Don't get that at all.

clemenza, Saturday, 21 January 2017 04:50 (seven years ago) link

Saw limos smashed up today and just thought of Cosmopolis

Gukbe, Saturday, 21 January 2017 04:59 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

My dozen favorites.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 August 2017 04:55 (six years ago) link

Was traumatized by Dead Ringers as a teenager. Haven't seen it since.

Gukbe, Sunday, 13 August 2017 06:50 (six years ago) link

I'm a huge Cronenberg fan, and yet: 1) I've yet to see his last three (the Freud movie, Cosmopolis or Maps to the Stars) and, more egregiously 2) until last night I had never seen Scanners! Which is very ironic, given it is literally his most iconic movie. I mean, I've seen the explosion scene dozens of times! Anyway, it was good. Haven't seen Dead Ringers or Crash in ages, should watch them again one of these days.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 August 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

Freud movie is good, maps of the stars is laughable and seems to have been made for the sole purpose of a single iconic shot

Οὖτις, Sunday, 13 August 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

Which shot?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 13 August 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

"the end"

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 13 August 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link


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