I like Ray.
― akm, Monday, 23 February 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
itching to see the Iowa scenes
these are in S4
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 February 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
There's no Iowa in S3, only the setup to Iowa. S3 had noticeably bad or at least disappointingly conventional tv stuff throughout. "Crazy" characters of the sort you mainly meet on tv.
The birthday party episode (#3, Dr. Morbius, so hang in there, it gets better after that) was what I'd call the worst one yet produced. Ultimately though, good plot direction cooking up over the season, and some surprisingly good long-build-ups to very funny, satisfying jokes, mean I will still call myself a fan. Arrested Development was only REALLY good for 2 seasons, after all.
― Vic Perry, Monday, 23 February 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
xp sorry I meant S4, I watched all of S3
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
And yeah the growing disappointment through S3 was what kind of put me off starting S4. Plus now I got rid of HBO to save money, so maybe I'll wind up watching when it comes on Amazon, presumably after the season is over.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link
S4 seems to be where this show has properly hit the skids. loved the last season but yeah kinda aimless right about now.
― piscesx, Monday, 23 February 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
When I think about it in practical terms I shoudl really have got off the bus after S2. Watching S4 'in case it got better' has been an exercise in frustration at how much I don't care about anybody. Old Man Ray is the only recurring character I give a shit about, following what happened to Adam this series.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Monday, 23 February 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah i've seen 3 of s3, b'day party ep yuck
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 February 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
I actually kind of enjoyed this week's episode, which is the first time that's happened in a long time! (I even laughed out loud when Marnie and Desi were arguing about She & Him). I thought the Mimi-Rose / Adam dynamic was well done and it was refreshing to see a likeable female character who has their shit together.
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Monday, 23 February 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link
I can't really begrudge the show for being something that maybe just wasn't meant to have this many seasons. You can only do the stuck early 20-somethings thing for a few years, then stuff kind of has to happen. Even the characters who stay "stuck" have to have their FRIENDS moving on and leaving them behind, making their own stuckness start to feel sad (I think Baumbach has handled this subject well). In Girls, characters' lives are moving but in a way that feels unrealistic and forced, with suddenly several characters from the same group of friends going from nothing happening to a lot happening.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 23 February 2015 22:09 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I mean being in your 20s in a big city, youre jettisoning friends and gaining new ones all the time, so there feels something forced in having the girls hanging out and still trundling along doing nothing. Last episode was really really bad imo.
― tayto fan (Michael B), Tuesday, 24 February 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
it is weird how their social world feels so small - there's never other extraneous random friends around
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link
i feel like this is compelling television and also in real life people often end up hanging out with the same three or four people all the time
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:29 (nine years ago) link
shoshanah was hilarious. desi was an asshole/should serve as a warning to ilmers
also adam's a dickhead i hope he gets run over by a truck
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link
Desi and Marnie are both horrible awful people who deserve to be trapped in an apartment arguing about whether or not they are like She & Him imo
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link
marnie isn't so bad. she is just superficial in all ways.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link
i don't really want to watch hannah try to become a teacher though. seems like it's going to be ridiculous/brutal
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link
marnie isn't so bad. she is just superficial in all ways.― Treeship, Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Treeship, Tuesday, February 24, 2015 4:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
How is that not bad?
― schwantz, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
i mean, there's bad and there's bad. hannah and especially jessa are narcissistic to the point of delusion and this has had disastrous consequences for other people in their lives. marnie is comparatively harmless. she is narcissistic in a way that strikes me as adolescent-like.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link
we all know marnies, i'm sure. they're just like, people who see their lives as a really shallow movie that they are obsessed with interpreting and reinterpreting
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link
Ok, fair enough. I guess she isn't as vengeful or spiteful as Hannah/Jessa are. Still pretty narcissistic tho.
― schwantz, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 01:01 (nine years ago) link
i love Shosh. butdussy.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link
"harvard grad makes good, what an inspiring story!"
― Treeship, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 01:47 (nine years ago) link
Lollll
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:09 (nine years ago) link
Elijah also had good lines "I had just put a bid in on 16 acres"
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 02:11 (nine years ago) link
I love how Elijah constantly spouts all this really weird shit that is amusing in its zaniness and then completely falls apart when you imagine Elijah as a character actually following through w/ these things off camera
Like I don't mean that as a critique, I just enjoy it. It's like there's a secret ~productive~ Elijah running around
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
Doesn't it seem odd how few characters there are on the show (any?) who aren't completely narcissistic and self-obsessed?
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link
I can't think of one
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
Laird maybe
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
those are the defining traits for mid-20 yr olds so, no
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
it's funny, i didn't get on board with the show until i took it as a sloppy collection of moments that are tonally inconsistent and regularly undercut established character work that still manages to be amusing and occasionally cutting for 30 minutes, like they made a soap opera out of the discreet charm of the bourgeoisie. so it couldn't really go haywire or down the wrong road unless i stopped enjoying the actors.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
ike they made a soap opera out of the discreet charm of the bourgeoisie.
holy. shit.
this is such a brilliant summary.
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link
i also watch the show to learn new annoyed sounds from adam that i can make during my commute
― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
stop fucking murdering buñuel you charlatans
― vacuum head tree disease (imago), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
Lena Duñuel
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link
Watched a few episodes of S4 last night, I think the first scene I've actually enjoyed of this show was Dunham's takedown of her fellow MFAs.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
croup otm
SO otm
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
rattlesnake cowgirlheart for salewhoa wow wonderfulsong for marcus garveyoaxaca blueskokopeli shelly
that's top six right there
― slam dunk, Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:02 (nine years ago) link
loooool
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:03 (nine years ago) link
desi is the worst. so perfectly, punchably realized
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:08 (nine years ago) link
Haha I know. As awful and overblown as these characters seem sometimes, I have met all of them (except Shosh! Who is the best anyway) to a tee in real life, and I still have a hard time believing they exist like that.
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link
yeah like they are broad strokes caricatures but the tiny details are well-observed enough to make them seem somehow familiar
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:56 (nine years ago) link
i'm a year behind, like Gaby Hoffmann as Adam's batshit mess sister
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 04:58 (nine years ago) link
she's so good
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 05:06 (nine years ago) link
Loved this week's abortion plotline and the Adam/Mimi-Rose relationship in general.
Desi is the magnificent worst. His misplaced snobbery about She & Him was perfect.
― Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 26 February 2015 10:09 (nine years ago) link
back to s3: Ray-Marnie ridiculous as a zipless fuck, let alone a couple for any length of time. Sub-Dawson's Creek.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
tho it does recall Judy Tenuta's line "Did you ever start dating someone, instead of committing suicide?"
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link
lol
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link
ok, the second half of the third season got a LOT better. The biggest shocker was that Shoshanna bacame more than a cartoon (or a deeper one). She was great drunkenly ripping everyone to shreds in the Beach House ep, and then incredibly moving making her plea to Ray in the finale. Z Mamet has my respect.
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 February 2015 12:38 (nine years ago) link