BIRDMAN MOTHERFUCKAS (2014 film feat. Michael Keaton, Edward Norton, Emma Stone, et al)

totally mcscrotally

i'm sure to love it when i rescreen from my newly enlightened perspective

there's hope for everyone yet thats shat I learnt from watching best picture tm birdman motherfuckers

uh what

Harris, as always and forever, OTM.

His theory about eighties film (borrowing bits from A.O. Scott) makes sense, but nineties commercial filmmaking was just as confused. Look at that decade's BP winners.

If the Academy's definition of "prestige" has drifted away from Out of Africa and Gandhi, it really doesn't matter at all what they've drifted toward IMO.

https://vine.co/v/OQwTawxZhI0

:-(

it could've been a flask

birdman was great btw anyone who hasn't seen it should watch it instead of reading this outraged tantrum of a thread

otm

read that as "outraged rectum of a thread"

punchier, imo

For a guy who's such the center of attention in all of his other movies, it's funny that no one mentions Zack Galifinakis in this.

that was whatchoocallhim mr Hollands opus, not Zach. he was playing zach.

Dreyfuss thats the guy. it was Dreyfuss.

i only see Zack Galifinakis when he's not the center; there have been others

this is another movie that tells you how great it is, well played

David Bordwell on structure, style and the "long take":

http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2015/02/23/birdman-following-riggans-orders/

I found the long-take in this distracting and not at all germane to the story, it drew attention to itself and seemed unnecessarily showy

I actually really liked the long take as a means of condensing the story while keeping the focus on Riggan's crisis. It's a long take, but not real time, which is something different.

it wasn't a long take either

going for Thursday as when someone actually reads the DB piece

Well, yeah, it's not so much a long take (clearly, since there are traditional cuts) as the illusion of a long take, which I actually found less distracting/show-offy than the usual look-at-me long takes a la Scorsese/Anderson.

I was using long-take for shorthand, it was p obvious to anyone paying attention from the get-go that it's not actually a long/single take

the wrong-shake(y)

Just finished watching this for the second time, taking notes and trying to make sense of my first impressions. For the most part, I like it. I don't quite love it, and the insistent reach for ~significance~ that's always been an irritant in Inarritu's films still irritates here, but it's rich, funny, technically dazzling and hugely energetic.

where's do u see richness in this?

razzle dazzle does the trick

What a great looking, intelligently cast stupid film. Mr. Iñárritu, watch some European Max Ophuls flicks to see what long takes with a good script and flesh and blood characters can accomplish! It's awesome, bro. Check it out.

bartonfinkman was pretty entertaining. mostly bc of the drums.

After 20 minutes I felt bad for the cast, the cinematographer and the drummer. 20 minutes is when gimmick fatigue set in and I realized these (mostly) talented folk had been coerced into a shitshow if epic proportions.

*of

poor cast, cinematographer and drummer prbly won't have a careers after this one. what a disaster.

no 'a' obv

or maybe I threw it in there for a bit o jazz
*pish*
*pap!*
*pow!*

qn: why did keaton take another hit off that roach after pretending like he'd sucked the hot embers of the last remaining weed into his mouth by accident?

ILX: this is definitely the worst movie ever made. literally worse than cancer and Hitler combined x 1,000. part way through watching, i was forced to gouge my eyes out and ram them into my ears. the second time i watched it (somehow), in order to document all the crimes committed against humanity, I literally died on the spot. i once walked past a movie theater that was showing American Beauty and this was almost as bad.

lol otm

Crash vs. American Beauty vs. this shitshow

I would rip Thinwall's eyes out and put them in my own skull so that I could see ILX that way again

Crash vs. American Beauty vs. this shitshow

If you don't know Crash is in a league all its own, I don't even know where to begin.

yeah Crash is def the worst

but Crash vs. American Beauty vs. Spider-Man 3 would be tough

i still legit hate Crash.

the only equivalence I was referencing was their award-winning (and, to a lesser extent, their "big statement"/of-the-moment commentary nature)

Haggis is not afraid to be stupid

and, to a lesser extent, their "big statement"/of-the-moment commentary nature

What "big statement" is this supposed to be making?? I'll say it again: it's clichéd and over-the-top in the service of comedy. The Ophuls comparison Jay Vee should be making is the circus in Lola Montes. Not that Birdman is a masterpiece of cinema. But it's using its technical devices to similar effect.

The closest Birdman comes to an American Beauty moment is ...

http://media.giphy.com/media/Ya6TjOP90uoJa/giphy.gif

"big statement" in Academy terms = jampacked w references to contemporary cultural flashpoints

Big Statement in Academy terms = an actress' breasts.

prosthetic noses also acceptable

You mock noses.

A nose by any other name

we should poll Academy-approved prosthetic noses - Monster, The Hours, Birdman, Foxcatcher. Raging Bull would win I suppose

wizard of oz