OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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I'm sure there are more interesting parts of Kim Gordon's book than the section that deals with her husband and this.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:01 (nine years ago) link

lol i haven't thought about starostin in yeeeeaaaarssss

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link

ahh ... mark prindle.

been a long time since i visited his site.

mark e, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

Starostin & Scaruffi are both auto-didact, super-systematizers with differing yet equally narrow aesthetics. (Scaruffi I can at least raid for album suggestions in the avant garde area, so he's more useful). Next to these two, Christgau seems like the most open-minded, acknowledging-his-own-subjectivity-guy in the world.

Vic Perry, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:24 (nine years ago) link

I'm really glad ILX has finally caught up to /mu/ with the Christgau vs. Scraruffi vs. Fantano debates

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 21 February 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

That's awesome happy for you Whiney :)

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 February 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link

it's so great to see him in his element

describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Saturday, 21 February 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link

http://only-solitaire.blogspot.com

George Starostin's taste (and writing style) has loosened up somewhat in recent years, but it's amazing that he's been keeping up his "review bands alphabetically" blog for 4.5 years and he's still only on the letter B (for Bon Jovi).

i ain't marchant anymore (unregistered), Saturday, 21 February 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link

*5.5 years

i ain't marchant anymore (unregistered), Saturday, 21 February 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link

starostin dude is unreadable. one paragraph oughta be enough to warn people away forever:

"That said, all of these factors are still not enough to account for the band's passing into utmost oblivion (together with other great British blooze bands, such as Ten Years After or Taste). Because, in a certain sense, these guys symbolize everything about yer basic early Seventies rock, that loud, raunchy, sloppy hippie music as opposed to, say, acid hippie music. And at least they never tried to 'fashionize' their music by carefully avoiding heavy metal and glam rock trends. Throughout all of their six studio albums, they remained what they were: a naive, drug-addled, heart-on-the-sleeve, hair-down-the-waist bunch of idealistic young men trying to find consolation in blues riffing and folkish whining amidst a sea of problems. They just weren't particularly talented, but who was particularly talented? Gary Glitter? And, for my two cents, I'd at least take Paul Rodgers' voice over Robert Plant's any day of my horrid life."

scott seward, Saturday, 21 February 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link

I still really like reading all those Prindle/Starostin/one-guy-with-a-website music reviews and am sad that that whole scene totally died off.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 21 February 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link

ilx's own glenn m. is the only one of them worth reading.

scott seward, Saturday, 21 February 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link

You are talking about this? http://www.furia.com/page.cgi?type=log

Mon-El in the Middle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 February 2015 05:26 (nine years ago) link

the war against silence entries:

http://www.furia.com/page.cgi?type=twas&id=issues

scott seward, Sunday, 22 February 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link

http://diffuser.fm/box-sets-arent-meant-for-you/

Let’s jump ahead about 50 years. The current holder of the Jimmie Rodgers baton is one Bruce Springsteen, a globally popular musical storyteller coming off of the biggest album of his career. Born in the USA would eventually sell 30 million copies worldwide. (To put that in perspective, hit your thumb with a hammer. Now do that 29,999,999 more times. Thirty million is a lot; also, put some ice on that thumb.)

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:33 (nine years ago) link

really puts it in perspective

you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link

And so while we in the media continue to report on the inevitable death of physical media, any artist who attracts enthusiastic fans remains a candidate for a lavish box set. As I write this, I’m staring lovingly at my Miles Davis: The Complete Columbia Album Collection. I’m also shaking my head at the online auction prices for Insane Clown Posse‘s recently released The First Six which is, of course, a seven-disc set that’s fetching prices not too far below the great Miles’ 53-disc box.

I can shake my head all I want, but the simple truth is that ICP didn’t make The First Six for me any more than Victor made that very first Jimmie Rodgers album for fans of Enrico Caruso. It’s a priceless treasure to the Juggalos, and that’s why the idea of the box set remains a viable one even after 80 years.

But seriously, Led Zeppelin, enough already.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link

a priceless treasure to the Juggalos

This has a real nice poetic ring to it.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/fugazi-politics

five six and (man alive), Monday, 9 March 2015 03:42 (nine years ago) link

Fast-forward thirteen years, and it’s all too easy to draw straight lines, not just to the increasingly unstable geopolitics of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, but to the deaths of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and Eric Garner in New York City—both of whom were killed by police officers while unarmed. When protests erupted over the deaths, police responded with heavy-handed action that sounds awfully similar to what MacKaye described in 2002. War and police brutality seem fairly straight-forward to gentrification and the link between neighborhoods and the housing market. Last November, Dave Grohl fretted that Austin, Texas, was losing its artsy character during an interview promoting the Sonic Highways series.

five six and (man alive), Monday, 9 March 2015 03:45 (nine years ago) link

Who is Jen Trification, and why do war and police brutality seem straight-forward to her?

Team Foxcatcherwatcher (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 9 March 2015 06:30 (nine years ago) link

Last November, Dave Grohl fretted that Austin, Texas, was losing its artsy character during an interview promoting the Sonic Highways series.

Surprised the writer didn't mention Nirvana's Ferguson anthem "I Swear That I Don't Have a Gun."

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Monday, 9 March 2015 11:00 (nine years ago) link

taking shots at a member of ILM's favourite band, whatever next

Reader, I murder dem (DJ Mencap), Monday, 9 March 2015 11:42 (nine years ago) link

I had a suspicion I'd see that linked.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 9 March 2015 12:20 (nine years ago) link

Raccoon Tanuki writing for the Guardian now?

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Monday, 9 March 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/Radiator-SFA.jpg

cr4bdbgs, Monday, 9 March 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link

why does this piece get commissioned and written over and over again

lex pretend, Monday, 9 March 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

old people

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 March 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

they forget they commissioned things. it's tragic

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Monday, 9 March 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

Hate to be cynical about it since I'm a huge fan, but he's got a "protest" album coming out in a month or two (which he mentions near the end). Pretty good number of comments, too.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 9 March 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link

anything > 0 = a pretty bad number of comments

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 March 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

I'm surprised that anyone cared enough to comment. The essay didn't say much, but I guess he hit enough soft targets (UKIP) to warrant a reaction.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 9 March 2015 19:07 (nine years ago) link

i grew up on british protest music...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JctNVfE06l4

scott seward, Monday, 9 March 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

http://thetalkhouse.com/music/talks/luke-haines-the-auteurs-black-box-recorder-talks-noel-gallagher-and-the-scourge-of-dad-rock/

Not sure if this qualifies as worst or best:

But even after all the above, Noel comes across as a decent enough guy. He’d be OK in the pub. (Well, he probably wouldn’t be OK with me in the pub after this.) You’d trust him to look after your cat as well. (Although I wouldn’t trust him with my cat, not after this.) But it’s his reactionary fear of the extraordinary, and the clapped-out Cloughie act, that need questioning. These are ultra-conformist times we live in; the imagination is unwelcome, the maverick is unwelcome and the weirdos need not bother turning up. The music industry and the publishing industry are grasping at straws to survive. The middlebrow media have a stranglehold on culture, and art is, amazingly, still seen as “not for ordinary people.” Poverty abounds. No one wants to hear a rich man boasting, but when Noel speaks, people listen. As for the records, they sound like they’re getting harder and harder to make. Noel never seems like he’s had any fun making them. The slow turning of the cogs in his brain grinding to a halt is almost audible. So, as Noel has all the money in the world — as he is often so keen to tell us — maybe it’s time to give up.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 9 March 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

Oh I love the Haines piece. The Ciaran one is full of the usual ignorant generalisations though.

Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 9 March 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link

Haines piece calls Noel Gallagher's slow songs bollards, I'm going to go for 'best'

Leonard Pine, Monday, 9 March 2015 20:44 (nine years ago) link

"The most logical expansion for UMG, WMG and Sony is to embrace online video stars from YouTube, Vine and Snapchat"

uh, sure big-picture cuepoint guy, maybe you should talk to karmin

maura, Friday, 13 March 2015 16:52 (nine years ago) link

whatever i know i have an Officially Chapped Ass after getting totally lowballed by that company to start a music collection, but jesus christ the intersection of edm idiocy and mba idiocy fueled by tech dollars is just... the worst thing

maura, Friday, 13 March 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link

also i mean all of these 'online video stars' make their bones by covering popular songs... that are initially disseminated by umg, wmg, and sony. maybe this guy is just advocating for the snake-eating-its-tail process to be sped up?

maura, Friday, 13 March 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link

or maybe he doesn't actually consume music and is instead lost in a thicket of spreadsheets and impressive-sounding numbers

maura, Friday, 13 March 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link

what a great time to be alive

maura, Friday, 13 March 2015 17:09 (nine years ago) link

just in case you needed reminding how bad drowned in sound is

http://drownedinsound.com/releases/18698/reviews/4148809?ticker

to pump a bit of lye (imago), Friday, 20 March 2015 09:31 (nine years ago) link

Whoa! I didn't know Chilly had a new album out. Must investigate.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 20 March 2015 14:08 (nine years ago) link

i don't know enough to say whether that review is right, did pique my interest

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 March 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link

"What was once accepted and ignored is now the target of pieces of writing like this one."

http://www.popmatters.com/feature/191920-get-hard-and-get-angry/

Brio2, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link

I agree that that piece is a total failure when it comes to music writing

DJP, Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link

Attributing it to Ethan Cohen rather than Etan Cohen is never not funny though.

Ethnically Ambiguous / 28 - 45 (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 April 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link


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