do they talk about music or sing about podcasts?
― brosario nawson (m bison), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:03 (nine years ago) link
the thing about podcasts is they're very now if i wanna hear zach lowe and jeff van gundy talk about basketball it's gonna be irrelevant a week later
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:03 (nine years ago) link
those music stations on the radio have songs about having sex sometimes, thats pretty thrilling if youve never heard.
― brosario nawson (m bison), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link
do the songs make sex noises or?
― Clay, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:08 (nine years ago) link
man look SOMETIMES im not even fucking kidding there are some
― brosario nawson (m bison), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:09 (nine years ago) link
― brosario nawson (m bison), Monday, February 16, 2015 11:03 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that wld be like dancing about streaming video
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:12 (nine years ago) link
m bison otm
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:13 (nine years ago) link
sometimes i dance with music that is from a streaming video
― brosario nawson (m bison), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:13 (nine years ago) link
some pot-vs-kettle here, but yeah
http://deadspin.com/bill-simmons-is-a-name-dropping-waste-1691345977
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 March 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
lmao sneak peak of the third part of a three part series
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 March 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
lol how can you try to read that and not swiftly come to the conclusion that however bad simmons is drew magary is much much worse.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 March 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
they r just both bad in their own ways god bless
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 March 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
I strongly dislike magary but that column is basically what he's good for
― Clay, Friday, 13 March 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
simmons is a force for good in this world and if you disagree you're kidding yourself. that dude is pathetic
― k3vin k., Friday, 13 March 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link
nah/fair
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 March 2015 23:30 (nine years ago) link
too-powerful for his own good yet benevolent media mogul is a narcissist, frankly i'm shocked
― k3vin k., Friday, 13 March 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link
This trade value column two month dribble is p funny tho
Dude has basically become the George RR Martin of basketball blogging
― we just form a f#!king wall (agent hibachi), Friday, 13 March 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link
god i was reading magary do that same shtick like 10 years ago. i am amazed by ppl who possess this bottomless reservoir of bile even as they age.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 March 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link
i guess will leitch has changed his shtick? not sure who else has, tho
― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link
it takes less energy to be a sanctimonious tool than it does to be so pissed about everything all the time
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 March 2015 01:18 (nine years ago) link
neither really takes any energy at all
― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 March 2015 01:24 (nine years ago) link
― k3vin k., Friday, March 13, 2015 7:32 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hes also a writer which is what the piece is about
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link
oh come on it's 100% about professional jealousy
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:32 (nine years ago) link
im not going to speculate on the motivation, and i apparently have been following drew mcagry much less closely over the years than the rest of you, im barely aware of his work, but there is some genuinely terrible simmons writing/thought excerpted in that piece
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:34 (nine years ago) link
also suspect too simmons will at some point in the near future be just a writer and not a media mogul again and wont have employing zach lowe to speak for him, what then simmons appoligists
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:35 (nine years ago) link
btw is crazy how many ppl there are writing abt basketball on grantland right now lol
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link
also if youre going to put all the good basketball writing on grantland in the simmons credit side you have to deduct for the shit ton of truly awful prosumer entertainment/pop culture converage
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:40 (nine years ago) link
anyway all of that is a lil inside baseball for me i prefer to just appreciate the final product on its own merits and the fact is simmons is in the midst of publishing a months long three part list of which he just gave a sneak peak of the last piece, this is ridiculous, and the list isnt even any good or insightful and seems more about his own solipsistic ideas abt narrative than it is understanding basketball
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link
i should start a grantland thread where i just effusively praise molly lambert constantly
― Clay, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link
ya i like her, just read the thing where she went to the avn awards
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link
there is so much greatest character actor ever tournament bs on that site tho truly the lowest of the low
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link
For every boom in Hollywood, there must also be a bust. So while those of us who watch TV for fun and profit have spent the past 15 years reveling in a tidal wave of brilliant acting, risk-taking storytelling, and remarkable performances, our friends across the aisle in the multiplex have had a far less festive experience.
hate hate HATE prosumer pretend industry garbage like this too
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:47 (nine years ago) link
her work is smart but breezy in a way v v few writers would even attempt, it is wonderful xps
― Clay, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:48 (nine years ago) link
show runner, narrative arc, callback, plz flush yrself down the toilet 99% of ppl who write abt tv
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:49 (nine years ago) link
i think i do a good job avoiding tv writing morass by watching only basketball and blackish rn
― brosario nawson (m bison), Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:50 (nine years ago) link
not a bad way to do it tbh
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:51 (nine years ago) link
feel like outside of the av club grantland is prob the worst offender of that style where ppl are pretending to have insider industry knowledge of how the sausage gets made but are really just randos repeating the most basic cliches abt craft and business in oder to make ppl feel like they are backstage, this style is approaching total saturation in tv writing but really its everywhere these days and its awful and completely insubstantial
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:55 (nine years ago) link
i like rembert and wes morris a ton, greenwald is kinda useless (he reminds you that you really have to be pretty intellectually unambitious let's say to devote yr life to tv criticism), hyden is abysmal, like i think i'd rather read simmons pop culture writing than hyden. i think i like his sports writers across the board. i'm pretty sure he's not leaving espn also.
― balls, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:58 (nine years ago) link
eventually one way or another espn will get tired of him employing 50 basketball writers for no reason is how i break it down
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:00 (nine years ago) link
that's a pretty solid summary. lambert is good, rembert is good, morris is fantastic. anytime i accidentally like the same thing as hyden i get pretty depressed. on the sports side every zach lowe is balanced by a bill barnwell. grantland cast a wide net and got hits and misses in equal numbers. the fact that i don't give a fuck about movies or tv 95% of the time probably helps me enjoy the site.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:04 (nine years ago) link
xp
/whispers/ rembert is actually kinda bad
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:06 (nine years ago) link
eh he's fine, i've never been offended reading rembert is what i'm saying
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link
lot of precious personal writing, bad opinions
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:08 (nine years ago) link
, meme-y dorky writer presenting himself as a cool guy stuff
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:09 (nine years ago) link
i know thats like every writer int he world but still
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:11 (nine years ago) link
oh he doesn't seem cool at all, that's part of why i don't mind him. does he think he's cool?
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:11 (nine years ago) link
i think maybe, idk i unfollowed him so now its just a shadow of an impression
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:13 (nine years ago) link
i don't know, grantland's basically what they dreamed page 2 would be back in the day and i suspect it's cheaper to get solid regular product from lowe et al than it was to have david halberstam and hunter thompson phone something in every now and then. i mean they spent a ton of time and money developing whitlock's black grantland (still in development). espn has writers that don't generate the hits or have somewhat successful podcasts like lowe or barnwell or keri. they also have so many sports personalities worse than bill simmons.
― balls, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:14 (nine years ago) link
im sure theres a lot of pressure in that world to show a effortless mastery of the zeitgeist and it just kinda gets on me nerves xp self
― lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:14 (nine years ago) link