bill simmons IS bill simmons IN the book of BASKETBALL

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i listen to music podcasts sometimes

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:01 (nine years ago) link

do they talk about music or sing about podcasts?

brosario nawson (m bison), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:03 (nine years ago) link

the thing about podcasts is they're very now if i wanna hear zach lowe and jeff van gundy talk about basketball it's gonna be irrelevant a week later

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:03 (nine years ago) link

those music stations on the radio have songs about having sex sometimes, thats pretty thrilling if youve never heard.

brosario nawson (m bison), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:04 (nine years ago) link

do the songs make sex noises or?

Clay, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:08 (nine years ago) link

man look SOMETIMES im not even fucking kidding there are some

brosario nawson (m bison), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:09 (nine years ago) link

do they talk about music or sing about podcasts?

― brosario nawson (m bison), Monday, February 16, 2015 11:03 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that wld be like dancing about streaming video

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:12 (nine years ago) link

m bison otm

mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:13 (nine years ago) link

sometimes i dance with music that is from a streaming video

brosario nawson (m bison), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:13 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

some pot-vs-kettle here, but yeah

http://deadspin.com/bill-simmons-is-a-name-dropping-waste-1691345977

mookieproof, Friday, 13 March 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link

lmao sneak peak of the third part of a three part series

lag∞n, Friday, 13 March 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link

lol how can you try to read that and not swiftly come to the conclusion that however bad simmons is drew magary is much much worse.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 March 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link

they r just both bad in their own ways god bless

lag∞n, Friday, 13 March 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link

I strongly dislike magary but that column is basically what he's good for

Clay, Friday, 13 March 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link

simmons is a force for good in this world and if you disagree you're kidding yourself. that dude is pathetic

k3vin k., Friday, 13 March 2015 23:28 (nine years ago) link

nah/fair

mookieproof, Friday, 13 March 2015 23:30 (nine years ago) link

too-powerful for his own good yet benevolent media mogul is a narcissist, frankly i'm shocked

k3vin k., Friday, 13 March 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link

This trade value column two month dribble is p funny tho

Dude has basically become the George RR Martin of basketball blogging

we just form a f#!king wall (agent hibachi), Friday, 13 March 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link

god i was reading magary do that same shtick like 10 years ago. i am amazed by ppl who possess this bottomless reservoir of bile even as they age.

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 March 2015 23:56 (nine years ago) link

i guess will leitch has changed his shtick? not sure who else has, tho

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link

it takes less energy to be a sanctimonious tool than it does to be so pissed about everything all the time

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 March 2015 01:18 (nine years ago) link

neither really takes any energy at all

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 March 2015 01:24 (nine years ago) link

too-powerful for his own good yet benevolent media mogul is a narcissist, frankly i'm shocked

― k3vin k., Friday, March 13, 2015 7:32 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hes also a writer which is what the piece is about

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link

oh come on it's 100% about professional jealousy

k3vin k., Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:32 (nine years ago) link

im not going to speculate on the motivation, and i apparently have been following drew mcagry much less closely over the years than the rest of you, im barely aware of his work, but there is some genuinely terrible simmons writing/thought excerpted in that piece

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:34 (nine years ago) link

also suspect too simmons will at some point in the near future be just a writer and not a media mogul again and wont have employing zach lowe to speak for him, what then simmons appoligists

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:35 (nine years ago) link

btw is crazy how many ppl there are writing abt basketball on grantland right now lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link

also if youre going to put all the good basketball writing on grantland in the simmons credit side you have to deduct for the shit ton of truly awful prosumer entertainment/pop culture converage

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:40 (nine years ago) link

anyway all of that is a lil inside baseball for me i prefer to just appreciate the final product on its own merits and the fact is simmons is in the midst of publishing a months long three part list of which he just gave a sneak peak of the last piece, this is ridiculous, and the list isnt even any good or insightful and seems more about his own solipsistic ideas abt narrative than it is understanding basketball

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link

i should start a grantland thread where i just effusively praise molly lambert constantly

Clay, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link

ya i like her, just read the thing where she went to the avn awards

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link

there is so much greatest character actor ever tournament bs on that site tho truly the lowest of the low

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link

For every boom in Hollywood, there must also be a bust. So while those of us who watch TV for fun and profit have spent the past 15 years reveling in a tidal wave of brilliant acting, risk-taking storytelling, and remarkable performances, our friends across the aisle in the multiplex have had a far less festive experience.

hate hate HATE prosumer pretend industry garbage like this too

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:47 (nine years ago) link

her work is smart but breezy in a way v v few writers would even attempt, it is wonderful xps

Clay, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:48 (nine years ago) link

show runner, narrative arc, callback, plz flush yrself down the toilet 99% of ppl who write abt tv

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:49 (nine years ago) link

i think i do a good job avoiding tv writing morass by watching only basketball and blackish rn

brosario nawson (m bison), Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:50 (nine years ago) link

not a bad way to do it tbh

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:51 (nine years ago) link

feel like outside of the av club grantland is prob the worst offender of that style where ppl are pretending to have insider industry knowledge of how the sausage gets made but are really just randos repeating the most basic cliches abt craft and business in oder to make ppl feel like they are backstage, this style is approaching total saturation in tv writing but really its everywhere these days and its awful and completely insubstantial

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:55 (nine years ago) link

i like rembert and wes morris a ton, greenwald is kinda useless (he reminds you that you really have to be pretty intellectually unambitious let's say to devote yr life to tv criticism), hyden is abysmal, like i think i'd rather read simmons pop culture writing than hyden. i think i like his sports writers across the board. i'm pretty sure he's not leaving espn also.

balls, Saturday, 14 March 2015 02:58 (nine years ago) link

eventually one way or another espn will get tired of him employing 50 basketball writers for no reason is how i break it down

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:00 (nine years ago) link

that's a pretty solid summary. lambert is good, rembert is good, morris is fantastic. anytime i accidentally like the same thing as hyden i get pretty depressed. on the sports side every zach lowe is balanced by a bill barnwell. grantland cast a wide net and got hits and misses in equal numbers. the fact that i don't give a fuck about movies or tv 95% of the time probably helps me enjoy the site.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:04 (nine years ago) link

xp

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:04 (nine years ago) link

/whispers/ rembert is actually kinda bad

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:06 (nine years ago) link

eh he's fine, i've never been offended reading rembert is what i'm saying

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link

lot of precious personal writing, bad opinions

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:08 (nine years ago) link

, meme-y dorky writer presenting himself as a cool guy stuff

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:09 (nine years ago) link

i know thats like every writer int he world but still

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:11 (nine years ago) link

oh he doesn't seem cool at all, that's part of why i don't mind him. does he think he's cool?

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:11 (nine years ago) link

i think maybe, idk i unfollowed him so now its just a shadow of an impression

lag∞n, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:13 (nine years ago) link

i don't know, grantland's basically what they dreamed page 2 would be back in the day and i suspect it's cheaper to get solid regular product from lowe et al than it was to have david halberstam and hunter thompson phone something in every now and then. i mean they spent a ton of time and money developing whitlock's black grantland (still in development). espn has writers that don't generate the hits or have somewhat successful podcasts like lowe or barnwell or keri. they also have so many sports personalities worse than bill simmons.

balls, Saturday, 14 March 2015 03:14 (nine years ago) link


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