Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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http://www.theguardian.com/profile/the-guide

was looking for an online copy of the exhibition listings that appears in the guide on saturdays, got the above, which is just an archive of the populist listicles. pah.

koogs, Thursday, 12 February 2015 16:24 (nine years ago) link

Omar El-Hussein, the 22-year-old Danish man shot dead by police after supposedly carrying out the worst attack on Danish soil for decades, was a petty criminal with a past seemingly full of contradictions. He was a smart student but reportedly had a short fuse and was prone to violence. He was a talented kick-boxer and yet appeared to have suffered from anxiety and used cannabis.

no love deb weep (nakhchivan), Monday, 16 February 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

he liked to drink coca cola yet sometimes appeared to have purchased lemonade

no love deb weep (nakhchivan), Monday, 16 February 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

"and yet appeared to have used cannabis" ffs

Mordy, Monday, 16 February 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link

Smart but violent? This is unprecedented!

Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 16 February 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

"No one who speaks German could be an evil man."

english fatuus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 February 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/HpmOJ57.png

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 21 February 2015 23:43 (nine years ago) link

didn't google glass already bomb a few months ago?

Moyes Enthusiast (LocalGarda), Saturday, 21 February 2015 23:57 (nine years ago) link

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Don't knock it till you've watched it! This week's 'watch me date' features one of my friends.

the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Sunday, 22 February 2015 00:04 (nine years ago) link

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no love deb weep (nakhchivan), Sunday, 22 February 2015 00:05 (nine years ago) link

not watched the dating video yet, but the piece in the weekend mag is generally a highlight

IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Sunday, 22 February 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

saw that earlier and kept thinking of that fan art picture of Macho Man elbowdropping Jesus from heaven

The Crucifixion Of Sean Bean (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 March 2015 11:57 (nine years ago) link

ffs Scotland is full of inbreds according to the guardians cartoonist now. How did this get past the editor? who the hell thought it was ok?
Their sales in Scotland will drop even further now,

http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-940/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/3/6/1425656930878/0d4f335a-e056-4cea-bac4-114cf1ff5d70-bestSizeAvailable.jpeg

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/mar/09/steve-bells-if-

from the same cunt who did
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/nov/13/steve-bells-if-nicola-sturgeon-scotland

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link

When did The Guardian turn into the Daily Mail?

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link

Steve Bell is just not funny.

nuumerykah (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

as 'satire' goes it's pretty bad. It may well be a paraphrase of a quote (that no bugger knows) but it's not even funny.

Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

I don't blame anyone for misunderstanding Steve Bell cartoons because they're obtuse and unfunny but you've seriously misunderstood this one if you think he's saying Scotland is full of inbreds and bears any resemblance to the Daily Mail.

Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 16:05 (nine years ago) link

Re-make/Re-model - could you please take a moment or two to explain it because if it's not gratuitous mockery of Scottish people then it makes no sense to me whatsoever. I get that "try anything once except incest and morris dancing" is a known expression but other than that I'm at a loss.

everything, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

I'm guessing Bell is the kind of old school leftie who is actually opposed to the SNP out of a mistrust of nationalist politics (see also: bobby gillespie)

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link

nothing says "firmly opposed to nationalism" like national stereotype jokes

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link

Another funny one!
http://my.mutterings.co.uk/images/politics/repository/scotland-should-itself

everything, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

I'm not entirely sure what Bell is saying by riffing on the old "try anything once" line but I can't work out what the people who think the cartoon is anti-Scottish think he's saying. Is incest a national stereotype?

Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

It is simply considered to be a general term of abuse.

everything, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:14 (nine years ago) link

eg. calling Steve Bell an unfunny motherfucker is not a reference to his national identity.

everything, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

also "incest" gags frequently levelled at hicks/rubes/yokels take yr pick lol provincial politicians etc

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link

ts: characterizing yokels as incestuous vs zoophiliac

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link

for an allegedly leftist newspaper the guardian in its coverage of scottish politics really has only paid lip-service to the reality that the majority of yes voters were young, urban, leftist internationalists. they mainly point and laugh at the provincials for their perceived petty, small-minded nationalism.

a lot of new labourite content where the columnist tries to explain why labour is the much better choice for the left-wing scot but cannot have recourse to mentioning the policies of the two parties to justify this because obv labour is really awful.

snp prob quite populist and opportunist in a lot of its choices, but the yes movement, and the glut of young people who joined the party post-referendum are going to irrevocably move the party to the left for good.

Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

chose the wrong time to emigrate :/

Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link

this wd be the same Graun that backed the Lib Dems at the last election anyway

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link

also lol Mordy gotta be a poll

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link

i had actually forgotten that about the lib dems, fuck me.

clegg did a photo-opportunity outside my old office for the lib dem pledge not to raise VAT (lol). then he performed well in one debate and the press were talking about a 3 party election for a couple seconds. heady days.

Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link

and if anything the Lib Dems' trad vote was as rural as SNP iirc?

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

tbf Steve Bell is probly still on some SWP steez or something

daed bod (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 March 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link

He's riffing on that well-worn Erich Fromm quote, "nationalism is our form of incest, is our idolatry, is our insanity".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link

lol the Tim Lott CiF piece is so perfect for the Guardian ------> bin

ey mk II, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 11:26 (nine years ago) link

It's perfectly pitched to provoke. It's good to see that his writing skills haven't completely atrophied from writing those 'man about the house' family life articles.

the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:09 (nine years ago) link

literally listing your boring reactionary beliefs in a rewrite of the same column you've been writing for a decade ≠ writing skills

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:14 (nine years ago) link

good to know that if you self-identify as a Good Lefty you can pretty much believe whatever shit you want though

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 12:14 (nine years ago) link

Lol at the Owen Jones/Julie Bindel spat

the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 13:24 (nine years ago) link

I think that Tim Lott piece is pretty good tbqh, had me nodding in agreement throughout

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link

it didn't really have much more of a point beyond 'i self-identify as left-leaning but a lot of people disagree with me', which is a bit 'so what' in my book, whereas it could potentially have been a much more thorough and interesting piece.

mcayrshire (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link

Lex otm. It is something that comes up again and again - comfortable centre-leftists who still dominate practically every sphere of liberal journalism getting shook and defensive when their assumptions are challenged on Twitter. Either stand your ground and engage or ignore it, don't whine because someone thinks you're less right-on than you believe you are.

Rainbow DAESH (ShariVari), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link

This is just Chait redux. Yes it's another centre-left middle-aged white man whining but you'd have to be in complete denial not to realise that purity tests, dogma and groupthink are a problem. It's easy to avoid that issue by clowning Lott.

I preferred this less whiny piece by an activist, which identifies similar problems:

http://www.mcgilldaily.com/2014/11/everything-problematic/

Minaj moron (Re-Make/Re-Model), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:03 (nine years ago) link

That's a really good article.

the gabhal cabal (Bob Six), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:16 (nine years ago) link

hands up itt who self identifies as a good lefty, hands up now

post you had fecund thoughts about (darraghmac), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link

Either stand your ground and engage or ignore it, don't whine because someone thinks you're less right-on than you believe you are

I was under the impression he was engaging by writing this article in a mass circulation broadsheet newspaper/website. Does every debate have to be conducted on Twitter nowadays?

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

literally listing your boring reactionary beliefs in a rewrite of the same column you've been writing for a decade ≠ writing skills

see you're falling squarely into the trap identified by the piece there, those are not reactionary beliefs

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link

xxp i self-identify as a bad lefty

Mordy, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link


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