FRONTLINE: the pbs documentary series not the flea medicine

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oof. yeah, i don't know if i couldn't handle this either, unless i have like a week to spare where i just mope around getting nothing done.

frederick wiseman has a six- or seven-hour documentary called "near death" about a hospice. can't bring myself to watch that one, either.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link

holy shit the Putin episode

not sure what i was expecting but damn

gr8080, Thursday, 12 February 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link

that NRA episode was good.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 February 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link

i watched 10 min of the one about dying and then proceeded to freak out for at least an hour
it wasn't so much the stuff about death that scared me, it just totally pressed some of my other freakout buttons and i started crying :(

i would like to warn anyone prone to intrusive thoughts about death to consider avoiding it tbh
(i'm ok now but watching it was not worth the trouble it caused for me)

groundless round (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 February 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

i fully recognize it might not be as intense for everyone

groundless round (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 February 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

who's getting psyched for THE TRUTH ABOUT CHICKEN?

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Thursday, 23 April 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link

Nooo it is like the only decent protein source left to me

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 24 April 2015 00:56 (nine years ago) link

i know i'm not happy about it either
frontline is getting a little out of control with the fear-based programming
i like it when they balance macro fear with more micro stories about the misery of human existence
the horror is a little unbalanced atm no?

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Friday, 24 April 2015 01:03 (nine years ago) link

i guess i just want more david sutherland programming
he has a lot more movies than i realized! http://davidsutherland.com/films

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Friday, 24 April 2015 01:04 (nine years ago) link

the chicken-industry footage i've seen in the past is the only bleeding-heart stuff ever to actually give me nightmares

difficult listening hour, Friday, 24 April 2015 02:08 (nine years ago) link

i like it when they balance macro fear with more micro stories about the misery of human existence

this makes me want frosted mini-wheats

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 24 April 2015 03:54 (nine years ago) link

<3 David Sutherland

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 24 April 2015 11:11 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

2 things --
a. the one about ebola was really good. I had no idea about the children and the tree full of bats.
b. tonight: CHICKEN http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/trouble-with-chicken/

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

ooh!! that sounds good.

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

Totally

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link

oh hey yes

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

i watched a little bit of it last night and decided to save the rest for later
i'm saving chicken for possibly never

Florianne Fracke (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

Chicken truth is a truth we cannot afford to hear

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

My dad called at the end of last week, horrified by that chicken documentary.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link

I actually found the chicken documentary less horrifying than I expected! Salmonella is a bitch but relative risk analysis = a million other things will get you before it does. The chicken lobby is a fright, tho.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link

the meat industry is horrifying

example (crüt), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

looked at preview online of upcoming "rape on the night shift" and just kind of said to myself, holy shit, noooo

computer champion (harbl), Friday, 12 June 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the one on growing up trans was v good

johnny crunch, Sunday, 5 July 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

Agree. It was interesting to see how the emotional vocabulary of the kids featured in the movie is soooo much more rich than when I was growing up. Even the boys who suggested to Alex that he burp more and ignore girls. It was really good!

La Lechera, Sunday, 5 July 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

i think they deliberately chose, not only kids who were especially articulate, but -- perhaps more cynically -- kids who were unusually attractive in/as their 'new' gender.

it was very powerful and raised some very difficult questions. the psychologists (psychiatrists?) were very supportive and sensitive and yet i couldn't help but detect a kind of cheerleading that, seen from a different perspective, might seem troubling.

i think the key point in the documentary was the dad (?) who said that they were making the best choices in the absence of a lot of solid answers (answers that science may one day provide).

wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 5 July 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

interesting that the doc essentially offered two endings, one notably ambivalent and the other brightly optimistic

wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 5 July 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

the perspective of the somewhat older dude who admitted its really tough to gauge/appreciate irreversible changes as a young-er person was interesting, like that juxtoposed w the eagerness these kids have to take hormones is def kinda unsettling

johnny crunch, Sunday, 5 July 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

xxp yea the clinician cheerleading too

johnny crunch, Sunday, 5 July 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

the perspective of the somewhat older dude who admitted its really tough to gauge/appreciate irreversible changes as a young-er person was interesting, like that juxtoposed w the eagerness these kids have to take hormones is def kinda unsettling

― johnny crunch, Sunday, July 5, 2015 4:16 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, and you have to contrast this perspective with the fact (?) that undergoing these hormonal treatments in adolescence can make the transition easier than undergoing them in adulthood.

what's interesting to me is the seeming consensus among psychologists that gender dysphoria is a "thing"--that is, some kind of irreducible, discrete, empirically observable phenomenon that can't be reversed or placated. which it might be, but the psychiatric profession has a history of deciding such things when they turn out to be, at least, much more complex.

there's also the issue--which wasn't really broached in the documentary--about the relationship between gender and sex. is it just that people who have a sexual dysphoria inevitably express it in terms of the dominant cultural signifiers of that gender?

the mix of culture and biology here is so fraught....

wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 5 July 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link

that is, is it possible to desire to be another sex w/o assuming the dominant cultural characteristics of the gender generally associated with that sex? or does the desire to change one's sex (via hormones, surgery, etc.) follow from the desire to achieve those characteristics?

i'm not a hardcore cultural constructionist though and i'm comfortable with the idea that some of the cultural manisfestation of gender are a more or less natural, or rather evolutionary, extension of sex. but that assumption definitely flies in the face of some of the more radical implications of the queering of gender that a lot of activists have been invested in for a long time.

wizzz! (amateurist), Sunday, 5 July 2015 21:33 (eight years ago) link

If you're interested in the topic, Andrew Solomon's Far From the Tree has a chapter about transgender kids (and their parents). The book is indispensable as an empathy-generating force. It's really great.

La Lechera, Sunday, 5 July 2015 22:43 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Exxon that climate change was real in 1977. Hope this expanded into a full hour-long episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppfpFZ92JAY

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Inside Assad's Syria is on in just a few

goole, Wednesday, 28 October 2015 01:41 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

RIP Robin Poor Bear/Kind Hearted Woman
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/robin-poor-bear-1977-2015/

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 December 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

Oh wow, so sad.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 3 December 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

i know, i can't stop thinking about it
if you haven't checked out David Sutherland's other documentaries, they are all great. i've wondered and worried for years about the kids in Country Boys
i hope Robin is at peace

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 December 2015 22:23 (eight years ago) link

Oh nooooo :(

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Friday, 4 December 2015 01:12 (eight years ago) link

Shit.... :( :(

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 5 December 2015 06:55 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm trying to watch "Separate But Unequal" about the resegregation of public schools, and I know I should be able to at least listen to this as I fold laundry but I just want to punch every one of these white men in the fucking face.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Sunday, 20 December 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link

you should occasionally glance at the screen so you know what they look like -- that way if you see them irl you can punch them in the face :)

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Sunday, 20 December 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Did anyone watch the one about Netanyahu?

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this supplement one was good & like theyre doing a gambling/fantasy sprts ep

johnny crunch, Sunday, 24 January 2016 02:20 (eight years ago) link

its cool they have the entire transcript - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/supplements-and-safety/transcript/

johnny crunch, Monday, 25 January 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

I haven't seen a Frontline episode in a few years. I eat chicken seemingly every day so I will not be watching that, lol. Netflix used to have many episodes, but I've seen them all. Are they shown anywhere else, like Hulu Plus or something?

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Monday, 25 January 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link

The Frontline website has them all, or at least almost 200.

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Monday, 25 January 2016 17:50 (eight years ago) link

They also post transcripts for virtually all of them there too. It helps my students take notes while they watch.

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Monday, 25 January 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link

I just watched a couple on MRSA-type infections in hospitals while doing repetitive work at work, but found them to be kind of thin... could not bring myself to watch the ISIS ones though, despite strong interest in the subject. Too grim. Which is silly of me, since, you know, Frontline.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 25 January 2016 19:39 (eight years ago) link

Frontline also podcasts the audio of their episodes with the descriptive subliminals. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/podcasts/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 08:29 (eight years ago) link


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