ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

maybe instead of voting for specific tracks we can just spend three weeks nominating and voting for what set of conditions make an "epic"

The metal polls gives everyone a chance to have a break.

maybe instead of voting for specific tracks we can just spend three weeks nominating and voting for what set of conditions make an "epic"

Good idea. I say 8:00 is long enough to count as an epic. Let's take a month to discuss.

If the bottom line is 10 minutes, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Papa Was a Rollin' Stone" multiple times.

Lots of rock epics are around the 7 min mark though.

which is what I assume jf was getting at

maggot brain isnt even 10 mins

it'd be criminal to exclude all the 23-second epics

I've got plenty of backup Phish jams in the 12 min+ range.

none of these examples are more epic than wreck of the edmund fitzgerald (6:32), but 10:00 seems pretty reasonable

crut otm His fave grindcore tracks are over a minute long and in grindcore terms thats an epic

maggot brain isnt even 10 mins

Bardo Pond's cover is!

Or 21 minutes but who's counting.

wtf u idiots

A1 Maggot Brain
Written-By – E. Hazel*, G. Clinton*
10:10

personally I wish Leee was sticking with a 15-minute minimum

i think leee should decide whatever the fuck he wants to do even if it means only bardo pond and autechre tracks are available to vote for

I have to say ... I sorta hate these polls where the majority of the discussion centers around what is actually being polled

OK poll's cancelled.

epic post

epic 10-minute long post

lol

please, do whatever you want!
i was just offering my solicited 2 cents as a voter and epic enthusiast

I agree that 10 minutes should be the absolute minimum length for the epic poll, otherwise you could just nominate a whole bunch of normal, not-particularly-epic techno/jazz/prog/etc tunes. Though I'm fine with a 15 minute minimum too.

Marquee Moon, 12" version = 9:58

Latest version off CD = 10:47

I'm OK with ten minutes. That's a good place for that dude to wave a winning flag.

What is eligible only determines one end of what gets voted for. People also have to decide whether a track counts as "epic".

At this rate the only qualified track will be "And you and I" Yes!

Is there a limit to number of Fela songs we can vote for?

*the number

I agree that 10 minutes should be the absolute minimum length for the epic poll, otherwise you could just nominate a whole bunch of normal, not-particularly-epic techno/jazz/prog/etc tunes. Though I'm fine with a 15 minute minimum too.

― Tuomas,

you could always allow epic rock tracks under 10 mins but make techno/jazz etc be over 15 I suppose. Obviously jazz and techno has a huge advantage otherwise.

lol

more eligible tracks != an advantage

20

also we don't really need to have an argument about what constitutes rock/techno/jazz on top of everything else

How about making the limit after the best known longest rock track so no rock gets in?
Tuomas otm

Just make it 60 mins and we can declare Boris - Absolutego and Corrupted - El Mundo Frio the winners now.

big ups to my mans Morton Feldman

with BT in 3rd place

oh wait nm no classical

jfc just let everyone vote for whatever they want and see what happens. that will make for the most interesting set of results anyway.

does terry riley count as 'classical'?

of course

if its just a poll on unusually long tracks then perhaps it should be 20+ mins

Is there a top limit? (asked The Flaming Lips...)

the minimum & maximum is 4:20

Uh, do live versions count?

the higher the maximum the more chance jam bands will be the dominant rock form! Phish and Grateful Dead are finally taking over ilx!

You bastards, I'm just going to poll 4'33" now.

first ten to fifteen seconds >>> middle four minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last ten to fifteen seconds

you guys aren't still discussing epics poll, are you

discussion of epics poll must be limited to 15 minutes