even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

trying to determine whether or not those places are "New York"

even by nytimes standards i am having a really really hard time believing that the nytimes actually ran that article in 2015? ANOTHER "rich couple make the move to brooklyn from manhattan, find out that it is not that bad"

has to be like the 100th time they've done this angle

they repeat themselves all the time. there are apparently only 600 stories in the naked city.

you get used to it. the only thing i really read religiously is the food section and i find comfort in their endless retreads of stuff like: ham! it's not just something you put on a sandwich anymore! it's fancy! beer! it's not just budweiser in a cup at a ballgame anymore. it's fancy! basically: that thing that everyone has eaten/drank forever is no longer just that thing you have eaten forever. it's a thing! a fancy thing!

Walking! It's not just a thing you do between your limo and your office building!

i'm getting pretty good at the crossword puzzle i gotta say

the humble and dreary and forgotten cauliflower? not so humble and dreary and forgotten anymore! no sireeeeee!

they also like to drive home the fact that what you've been eating forever is some sad thing that is terrible. no matter what they're talking about. and only now can you get the good stuff. which never seems true. but it's a gimmick that keeps on giving.

anyway, they do this all over the paper. it's a living.

I always like to cite the ice cream example -- "Now producers are doing it with high-end ingredients and real, local dairy." Because that's been true for at least decades.

our local ice cream company makes the best goddamned vanilla ice cream you've ever tasted. just wanted to point that out if you are ever in town. you can get it at the supermarket. they add egg custard. makes all the damn difference in the world. that's my theory anyway. very old-fashioned taste.

http://bartshomemade.com/p/10/barts-flavors

scott have you ever been to http://www.peacefulmeadows.com/

no! i'm waiting to go with you!

i'm still getting used to things being called Creamies around here...

http://www.northfieldcreamie.com/_The_Creamie/Home.html

wagon wheel ice cream is likewise off the hookin' chain. my pal carol-ann runs that place. we grew up together. anthony bourdain is a fan.

http://www.wagonwheelgill.com/

woah

http://i.imgur.com/t0gwGld.jpg

haha! best grub around. best place to eat outside too.

I was just about to post that 2/5 link, ha

SPANISH HIPSTER DOT COM

http://gothamist.com/2015/02/07/brunch_hate_reads_the_tedium_of_rea.php

"The sellers 'had perfect taste, parallel to our own,' Ms. Porter said."

All time fave

The Times actually claimed that was Ms. Porter joking (eye roll)

http://thebillfold.com/2013/05/i-made-570k-last-year-but-i-dont-feel-rich-in-fact-i-feel-worried

He reads boring books.

paraphrase of key pieces of ^^ article:

Losing several hundred thousand dollars on unwise investing meant I had to live paycheck to paycheck at a time when I was only making 200,000 per annum. That scarred me. I don't feel secure. I worry about my investments, therefore I am not rich, because being rich means not having to worry about money.

mo money mo paranoia

Maybe if you can loose "a couple hundred thousand dollars" in an investment and not end up homeless you don't really need to worry about money. This guy has a problem.

a problem known as money

lollll, i mean this is fish in a barrel but what an amazing series of ridiculous statements. dunno why but the $300-a-week personal chef is what really kills me.

i have no idea, that's probably a pretty good rate for a personal chef, but how you can square the idea that you spend fifteen grand a year on having someone cook for you with not feeling rich, but try to reassure yourself that you're not worried about keeping up with the joneses because of your lower-grade SUV....

third car (for two adults) is only an entry-level ($32K) lexus

TBH, when i saw the 300 a week for the personal chef, I started trying to figure out how I can budget for that. Would be worth it.

5 $60 meals from mobile waiters uncle julio's perimeter

If it included ingredients and it was three meals a day for the whole family, it'd almost be a good deal. I'm assuming that's not the case though.

i would have died and gone to heaven if a hefty but regular mobile waiters bill came into play

a casual aside explaining the butter sauce

it does include the ingredients apparently which honestly - 5 meals for a family for $300 a week idk that seems pretty good. like in the context of upper middle class luxuries or w/e, it seems worth it to me.

So it's just 5 meals a week?

Or you mean family of five

I can't quite figure out where the guy's money is going. He says his mortgage is $700K -- that doesn't sound very big for a guy earning half a mil.

think he said it was 3 dinners that they can regularly extend to 5 meals

it is going into his overly cautious bank account, which he pairs with his overly risky investments

it could go to you if you have a health based iphone app idea

@man alive yeah he says that she makes 3 things that they consume over 5 dinners a week. it seemed like he has two kids but tbh im not going to bother reading it to double check. but $15 a person per meal while high isnt outrageous esp considering how much it would cost him to eat out even two nights a week instead. honestly with the exception of his mortgage none of his consumption patterns seem unreasonable mostly he just seems mentally ill.

Maybe he's blowing it all on expensive pity parties

Renting an entire orchestra of tiny violinists playing very sad songs for him isn't cheap

he learned that technique from reading Your Butcher is Actually Super Fucking Rich

he says in the article that hes hoarding money in a low-interest chequing account instead of paying down debts or investing in stable, low-risk assets. and that hes ok with it because of his larger fears about macroeconomic uncertainty. idk it feels like his relationship w/ money and security is disordered in a way that isnt that illuminating or indicative of larger social issues. he even says people he knows with much lower incomes feel secure, comfortable, affluent &c

Like I said it seems like a reasonable price for a personal chef probably, but if 'personal chef' even appears as a line item in your budget or even hypothetical possible budget, you are well off, and talking to anybody about supposedly recent 'paycheck to paycheck' living is NAGL to an extent that it just conveys an incredible and hilarious lack of self awareness

like sorry if you have enough in savings to support your family for two years, stfu

One of the reasons I have a lot of liquid reserve is so that I can make investments. I’m doing my homework right now as another opportunity to make a private equity investment has presented itself.

i've got a bad feeling about this

what's fascinating about this guy is that he's clearly smart and clearly a fool at the same time. one rarely sees the two so vividly played off against each other.