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http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/545/transcript

goole, Monday, 26 January 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link

The irony of Ira Glass narrating the segment about vocal fry was almost too much to bear.

ledge, Friday, 30 January 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link

well, at least they point it out

Nhex, Saturday, 31 January 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

i guess 4chan, other racists and "redpill" types, have begun to fixate on a nickelodeon show called "bella and bulldogs"

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23cancelbella&src=typd

goole, Monday, 6 July 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

far-right dudes are p well obsessed with cuckoldry in general at the moment

(i first heard about this on Uhh Yeah Dude a couple weeks ago)

goole, Monday, 6 July 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

googled this to understand what the heck it was, instantly found a super racist site complaining about this, like "jew york times" territory

Nhex, Monday, 6 July 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link

yeah, sorry, should have put some kind of general warning

the nickel version is that there's a nick show featuring a white girl and a black boy as main characters. some enterprising trolls have found that the producer had done some work in cheesecake media. you'll never guess what happens next.

goole, Monday, 6 July 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/rxMMkPJ.jpg

lil dork (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 6 July 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link

Creators of media for kids have been filling it full references to their weird fetishes forever- cf the entire history of comic books

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 6 July 2015 17:13 (eight years ago) link

i would not suggest taking this seriously

goole, Monday, 6 July 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

It seems very odd that, in order to be concerned about this, one must believe that all those details, which are so subtle, attenuated, and submerged into the background of the show that they require a lengthy exposition with explanations and enlargements for adults even to see their existence, are simultaneously so powerful and irresistible that children must certainly be corrupted by them.

Exactly what is it we are supposed to think will happen to the kids watching this show? That they'll all grow up to be 'cuckold fetishists'? Seriously?

Aimless, Monday, 6 July 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

heh, i was thinking that's gotta be Rocko's Modern Life, and of course it is

i would love it if Nickelodeon gave an official "are you fucking kidding me?" response but what are the chances

Nhex, Monday, 6 July 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link

cuckolding! there's a shakespearean reference i didn't think i'd see memed this year!

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 July 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

Given what is being said about 'cuckold fetishism' in that graphic, the word is being used all wrong. By rights, a cuckold fetish ought to involve antlers, not bulls, and hasn't the slightest connection to big black men schtupping pretty white women. Especially when they are unmarried.

Aimless, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

bizarre

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link

Seems like a guy who felt like he could say anything to anyone and stir up any kind of turmoil, for any reason or no reason at all, and he would never suffer any consequences. This used to be called a power trip in the 60s and 70s.

Aimless, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link

creepy
isis stuff aside, wager this kind of thing (trolling political impersonations, sockpuppetry) not uncommon, in less extreme forms prob rife online

This is some weird shit: it's a conversation between a renowned internet troll and an FBI informant, neither knowing who the other really is and each working angles to try to get the other to do something, without either one ever realizing the other is playing a really different game.

surreal; there’s some black comedy to this
also some difficult legal questions
obv diff situation but a few strands of analogy to case of gf exhorting bf to suicide via texts

drash, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link

tanya headon one minute, tanya cohen the next

jordan amavero (imago), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

from past experience in the early internet days with trolling types,

the multi-angle trolling is really an artifact of an inability to socialize with others, on or off the internet. strong "non-partisan" ideology, claiming that "free speech" trumps all and that trolling somehow pushes out the borders of free speech to ensure even the most fringe positions are ok quickly becomes a struggle to circle the drain with all the muck without falling in

there's a complete lack of empathy or understanding of world events. things in the news, like attacks and cultural battles are still seen as important (although probably the troll denies their importance) not because of lives or actual stances but due to attention. through escalation and publicity the troll feels important.

there are definitely some pathological issues to that mindset, but at its base it's a feeling that a diminished feeling of self-worth isn't a problem, it's everyone else's problem. everyone should have a low sense of self-worth, and highlighting how trivially people who are doing things in the real world are manipulated is some sort of proof.

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

short version: this dude didn't circle the drain, he fell in, and someone needs to hit the garbage disposal

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 15 September 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

i suppose trolls can have all sorts of motives. the ones I've seen lately are just masochistic and I never considered self-worth in that equation

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 15 September 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

all sorts of "don't post pictures of yourself doing things I want to do, don't talk about activities I loathe (but really want to participate in)"

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

this is really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toap7iPpTbs

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

agreed

Nhex, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

curious if anyone else has ever noticed a pattern of one troll camping out at a site for years on end (besides me ha ha). there's a dude at 'new york' magazine who derails almost every discussion of jonathan chait's blog posts i've seen whenever i'm bored enough to venture below, and check out the comment section. however paranoid it sounds i can't help wondering how many (if any) perpetual trolls are paid moderators on big and big-ish media sites, baiting traffic?

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

there's more than a few here of course.

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

def want to watch a 13 minute video on trolls

queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

it's not what you think it is whiney

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link


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