2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

It paints McCain as weak, and Obama in the decision-maker's shoes. Yet they knew it would happen that way. I don't see the upside.

I think it did accomplish the purpose of putting him in the spotlight and giving him the initiative. By holding the debate hostage, the focus was put on McCain's power to make a decision altering the dynamics of the race. On some level, it makes him seem more powerful, more active.

debate was never "held hostage" - it was going to go on without him and turn into a town hall PR event for Obama, basically.

A town hall event that few would have watched.

I think it did accomplish the purpose of putting him in the spotlight and giving him the initiative

and leaving him looking like an idiot, so far. I was unsure when this stunt started that it would end up this way, but so far, wow.

A town hall event that few would have watched.

what channel were they gonna turn to?

it made mccain look like a clown

lol every time i heard paulson say "700 billion dollars" i thought of this dude
http://bradley.chattablogs.com/dr.evil.jpg

Apparently Katie asked her, "what's the worst thing Dick Cheney did", and she answered "Shooting his friend with the gun".

this would be really funny if she were saying it to take the piss

HBO, TBS, CW, ESPN........

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the debate was never really in danger of being cancelled -- mccain bluffed & got called on it

o nate I guess that's true. It shows McCain DOING something. Making a DECISION. (And knocks Rick Davis and the malfunctioning PalinBot out of the headlines.) And now McCain gets to reverse his decision! It's a McCain specialty! "You know, I was wrong to have asked for delaying the debate. I was wrong. What can I say? I spoke with my heart. That's some straight talk."

I kind of think McCain's move was a bit of genius. Without having to take a stand either way on a contentious piece of legislation, he was able to present himself as a decisive, pro-active figure and basically steal the spotlight for much of the week. So after a week in which economic crisis came to the fore, and against an opponent who generally is regarded as having the advantage on economic issues, he held his own in the polls and ends the week at a tie in the latest Gallup poll.

I don't think anybody who wasn't already schizoid and blessed against witchcraft bought that line of shit, nate.

McCain's move is genius only as far as the general American populace is willing to be completely braindead stupid.

...Oh shit.

Thank god Bono is here to unite us all:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/26/bono.qanda/index.html

Bono now looks like some Camp Pendleton dude

hahaha I was going to link that

BONO: We got good news this week. I know normally I'm on your program with bad news -- the whingeing rock star -- but it's great. There's a disease, malaria -- it's 3,000 African kids die every day of mosquito bites. Sounds mad, but it's true.

WAHT NO WAI

Sorry, but that's not Bono: that's a piece of chorizo left in the sun.

I guess the news that Bill Gates donated millions (or billions?) to help fight malaria this week was buried, but Gates is always throwing money against awful diseases, so we're desensitized to megamilz mogul charity at this point.

I kind of think McCain's move was a bit of genius. Without having to take a stand either way on a contentious piece of legislation, he was able to present himself as a decisive, pro-active figure and basically steal the spotlight for much of the week. So after a week in which economic crisis came to the fore, and against an opponent who generally is regarded as having the advantage on economic issues, he held his own in the polls and ends the week at a tie in the latest Gallup poll.

― o. nate, Friday, September 26, 2008 11:01 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wow dude come on

the only good thing that mccain managed out of this fiasco was lowering the bar for his performance tonite lower than anyone thought possible. his best game right now is in the fact that everyone is basically expecting him to implode

McCain definitely helped recharge David Letterman's economy for the short term.

o nate stfu

McCain did manage to briefly distract attention from Rick Davis (and Palin's awful Katie Couric performance.) That's some kind of accomplishment, I guess.

The night of the VP debate I'll be at My Bloody Valentine. I think they should do a live soundtrack.

Now Rick Davis will only have all of October to poop himself instead of all of October and the last week of September

You Made Me Realise (He's Got The Down's)

Not a nice thing to say about Biden!

I didn't know the guys from powerline posted here!

McCain's numbers are in the tank o. nate, or did you not notice that he just lost Michigan.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1uw4eVGQfO0/SNxngkn6xbI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/ShkAVKDxiYU/s1600-h/bushbirthday.jpeg

http://www.mydd.com/images/admin/mcain_debate.gif

OK, guys, go back to your "everything McCain does is mind-bogglingly stupid" bubble and ignore the fact that this election remains incredibly close.

No, it isn't.

Well a coworker just passed on this story that some friend of his who listens to a lot of talk radio out here is claiming this is all to disguise the fact that McCain's had a stroke. Of course.

I love seeing those pics of the cabinet room because those chairs are so comfortable. The best part of the Clinton presidential museum is sitting in them in the cabinet room replica room.

it got a lot less close over the last 7 days is all

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Thinking that this election is close and definitely not game over ≠ McCain was a genius this week

Where is it close? North Carolina? Florida? Let's set the bar a little lower for the guy.

it's close ON MARS

the fact that McCain's had a stroke.

This would not surprise me!

But would Palin touch it?

It's bullshit to call someone a genius when a long-shot stunt works. Genius ≠ luck.

Obviously the best thing to do after having a stroke is to cancel a Letterman appearance but instead interview Katie Couric.

I like the idea of McCain as the interviewer.

"Why were you asking Sarah all those mean questions?"

stroke scenario seems highly unlikely. even so, i certainly wouldn't want an Obama victory to be "sullied" by his beating an ailing opponent. goddam that's all you'd hear for the next 4+ years.

did it stop Thomas Dewey in '44?

(he lost, but still)

It's bullshit to call someone a genius when a long-shot stunt works.

hahaha, he panicked and pushed all-in with an unsuited A-6.

xxxpost -- I hope it's not true too, I just wouldn't be surprised.

hahaha, he panicked and pushed all-in with an unsuited A-6.

Dude, he had the 6 paired, and he had pot odds! Shut the fuck up and play your cards!

rofl