Kanye West -- The Life Of Pablo (he'll probably change it several times after it's released too)

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Have you heard McCartney sing lately?

Matt DC, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link

Have you heard Kanye sing lately?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

Generation Migos has no other priorities besides taking the Beatles down a peg

diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link

Anyway, you don't go to Paul McCartney for his production skills, his singing, his lyrics, his stage presence or his persona. You go because you want to try and cement your credibility with a certain type of listener.

Matt DC, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link

Xp A noble pursuit
Also gonna stop saying mille and start saying generation migos thank you

brosario nawson (m bison), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

Millenials *

brosario nawson (m bison), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

Lol kanye cant sing for shit

Οὖτις, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link

Anyway, you don't go to Paul McCartney for his production skills, his singing, his lyrics, his stage presence or his persona. You go because you want to try and cement your credibility with a certain type of listener.

Or ... if you're Kanye West and you decide you want to incorporate some rock into what you're doing, you don't go to pull in session musicians or Radiohead or whatever. You pull in a fucking Beatle because only the best is good enough for Ye.

the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link

intrigued by the idea of kanye's ram

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link

Kanye Migos - better producer than mccartney, better singer tHan mccartney, better lyricist than mccartney, better performer than mccartney, more interesting person than mccartney. Other than that I'm sure 72 year old person will add so much to this record

― the fuckin catalina wine mixer (sleepingbag), Sunday, January 25, 2015 10:25 AM Bookmark

The Reverend, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:54 (nine years ago) link

anyway i kinda like "fourfiveseconds"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

Lol kanye cant sing for shit

and his lyrics are all like "golden diamonds coming out my dick come have a splash" which is hardly like the beatles

deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

Be funny if it was just a Kanye record with old Macca singing all the hooks, sped up or no.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

it's uh better than that piano tinkle released a few weeks ago, and it's a novelty to hear Rihanna in a spare setting. Other than that, not much to say.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link

intrigued by the idea of kanye's ram

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson)

wasn't that My Boring Dull Twaddle Fantasies?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

Lyrically I think they're on par/a good match tbh. I predict a lot of poorly formed semi-nonsensical metaphors.

Οὖτις, Sunday, 25 January 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

I'm imagining the awesomeness of "Press" with Kanye producing it.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link

"FourFiveSeconds" is fucking terrible, "jaunty" in the worst way possible. The fact that it's apparently going to be on both Rihanna's and Kanye's albums is depressing

Simon H., Sunday, 25 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

In a way this is the most audience trolling thing Kanye could do, kinda awesome

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 January 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link

Maybe they just like each other, I could see that

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 January 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link

this song is dope, rihanna sounds great after the first note

also unlike "only one" this is actually, like, a written song

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link

but then you hear the lyrics of this song

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:02 (nine years ago) link

also rihanna has done some acoustic songs before, many of which have been good, so this doesn't seem as purposefully left field as "only one"

it's maybe lowkey for her first official single in a 18 months or whatever but it's don't think it would be insane to have heard this song done by stargate or whatever instead of paul mccartney

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link

kanye's parts are inane and this would be better w/o him but i think the chorus lyrics really work

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link

i like the idea of kanye hanging up his villain hat. it's time. this isn't to say that the music that comes out of this move isn't going to be extremely boring

Treeship, Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link

i'm most interested in who wrote this hook, because it feels a bi too pop for kanye and rihanna doesn't work without superstar writers anyway

i guess it was dallas austin if he was listed in the itunes credits but it doesn't seem like anyone has reported that as fact yet

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link

not ty $?

r|t|c, Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link

"Update: According to Rolling Stone, a rep for West says McCartney did not co-produce all of West’s album."

akm, Monday, 26 January 2015 00:14 (nine years ago) link

so much for that

akm, Monday, 26 January 2015 00:14 (nine years ago) link

not ty $?

― r|t|c, Sunday, January 25, 2015 6:52 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah true

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 January 2015 00:15 (nine years ago) link

i got the sense from his interview about the song that he just did vocals but maybe! that would be cool

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 January 2015 00:15 (nine years ago) link

Is this song actually streaming ANYWHERE online right now? Can't find it.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 26 January 2015 01:00 (nine years ago) link

YouTube has it.

It this thing even definitely for Kanye's record though? I keep seeing it credited as Rihanna f. Kanye & Macca, was just wondering.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 January 2015 03:27 (nine years ago) link

Nevermind, no it's not there anymore. Just a bunch of fake Beatles loops tagged as it.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 January 2015 03:30 (nine years ago) link

rip thred, u were about four five seconds from mattering

celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Monday, 26 January 2015 03:54 (nine years ago) link

Time for a Yeezus Grey Album.

bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Monday, 26 January 2015 03:59 (nine years ago) link

ever since this collaboration started i've fantasized about Kanye and Paul bonding over a mutual hatred of The Grey Album

the total lack of percussion on either of these songs is the most interesting thing about them to me in that they so painfully sound like they're missing a rhythm track. a bunch of rando soundcloud producers have thrown drums on "Only One" and one of the R&B stations in D.C. is now playing one of those remixes as if it's the real song, with the most embarrassingly on-the-nose College Dropout-era Kanye drums, it's irritating but also more enjoyable than the original. can't see "FourFiveSeconds" really doing much unless there's a version with drums.

diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 04:05 (nine years ago) link

I don't care about the Beatles but saying McCartney is a worse singer than Kanye is just wrong.

the QT conundrum (Moka), Monday, 26 January 2015 10:10 (nine years ago) link

Probably right about the rest.

the QT conundrum (Moka), Monday, 26 January 2015 10:12 (nine years ago) link

not sure if i can believe sir paul has done a whole album with kanye, though id be interested to hear it (only one should never have been released though - i have only heard it once, but it was painful to listen to - it should be heard Only Once, ho ho). i dont know if this is kanye hanging up his villain hat - to me, its half him doing an MJ and trying to please critics/the establishment ('i want in', 'i'm legit', etc), but its also him daring haters/detractors by saying, 'look i can get a beatle! look at me now!' like, it was cool that jay-z worked with jack white (on boring music) and linkin park and whoever else, but kanye went back and got a BEATLE. if elvis was alive, im pretty sure kanye would have his sights set on him too.

StillAdvance, Monday, 26 January 2015 10:37 (nine years ago) link

4 5 seconds is great.

longneck, Monday, 26 January 2015 11:54 (nine years ago) link

"woke up an optimist" - such a great verse opening.

longneck, Monday, 26 January 2015 11:56 (nine years ago) link

we only got 4 5 seconds to save the world!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 January 2015 11:56 (nine years ago) link

did Jay-Z and Jack White actually release anything together? i just remember reports they were working together and then JW saying that Jay didn't like it and they probably wouldn't release it

diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 12:32 (nine years ago) link

the total lack of percussion on either of these songs is the most interesting thing about them to me in that they so painfully sound like they're missing a rhythm track... can't see "FourFiveSeconds" really doing much unless there's a version with drums.

― diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Sunday, January 25, 2015 8:05 PM (Yesterday)

version of "4 5 seconds" floating around has to be a demo, though, right? a deliberately slight deep cut at most.

A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Monday, 26 January 2015 13:51 (nine years ago) link

Paul McCartney not esp. renowned for his productions skills?

A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2015 13:54 (nine years ago) link

those Wings songs are often nothing BUT production skillz

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 January 2015 14:07 (nine years ago) link

Maybe the thread title should be changed if every other post is gonna be about Paul producing the album when that announcement has already been corrected

diddybops 67 (120.2)(source field mix) (some dude), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link

I was thinking that myself but then I remembered how the supposed release date of Yeezus was first denied and then turned out to be accurate, so who the fuck knows. I'll edit it a bit, though.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link

kanye HAS to realize these songs are unsalable as pop in 2015, right? i was shocked when he was actually crestfallen that yeezus had no real hit singles...but here he has to realize the whole world isn't goign to be singing "four five seconds." right?

soyrev, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link

Real Friends/30 Hours/No More Parties/Fade would have been my favorite EP of the year.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

ts: "bleached her asshole" vs "sweet & sour sauce"

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

as a result of this thread revive my plan was to listen to this all day while working but i forgot and instead played some schoenberg xmas music bcz how the fuck did schoenberg write xmas music

The Twelve Tones of Christmas

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link

The caps really make it

albvivertine, Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

a lot of great music/art is made through specific intersections of bad taste and good taste. imo this album is kanye yelling bullshit over some decent incomplete collages

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

i am (evidently) quite alright with horseshit speculative gilding of rubbish music it's just that this is literally the most basic unimaginative example you could possibly apply it to. kanye kulture is abysmal and ur all headass drear hoes of the apocalypse

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

ranking the Kanye albums I like:

1. 808s & Heartbreaks
2. The Life of Pablo
3. The College Dropout

Good tracks across Late Registration, Graduation, MBDTF and Yeezus, but I've never enjoyed listening to them as albums

But anyway I'm grateful to see people itt explain how I don't know what I like and also thanks for suggesting I have any sympathy for Kanye's public persona or the hyperbole surrounding MBDTF and anything Kanye-related

niels, Friday, 9 December 2016 12:54 (seven years ago) link

I get dissociating public persona from on-record art to an extent but I don't get how that's possible with this album, which is entirely about and filtered through that public persona, and pretty much requires the listener to empathise with it (or "find it interesting")

lex pretend, Friday, 9 December 2016 12:59 (seven years ago) link

I like that Kanye has enough juice to get "Fade" on the radio, it's generally welcome there as a respite from all-Drake-all-the-time. No use for the album or interest in the ongoing Kanye drama apart from that.

birthday party, cheesecake, jelly beans, boom (tipsy mothra), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

I think it's an enjoyable record, musically. Don't find the lyrics amazing, but they work within the context of the album and I am not too offended by the persona - kinda like how I feel abt Drake.

I know what would've really pissed me off years ago would be the shameless samples, just reusing popular hooks without much creative input, but for some reason I've been desensitized to this.

Also, it's perhaps a bit of a letdown that with all the studio money and input from other artists that Kanye wasn't able to make a 'great' record, maybe it's even a bit offensive, wasted opportunities, but again, I can't truly be bothered, I enjoy the record (okay there's a few tracks I skip, but I've seen other posters say they like those)

niels, Friday, 9 December 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

the only people I know who haven't been thoroughly turned off by Kanye for damn near the past decade are music critics. obviously there are communities that still have love for him, my own cohort of friends/colleagues is hardly representative of America as a whole, but it's still been a weird disconnect. little wonder that he gets (mostly jokingly) likened to Trump, they both manage to be simultaneously widely hated and yet "popular."

evol j, Friday, 9 December 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

it's weird was talking with a young guy at work and i forget that i think of kanye as the great roc-a-fella rap producer who's gotten kinda goofy in recent years, but now there's a whole bunch of kids who don't know anything but kanye the "outrageous" "controversial" dude (basically post 808s)

i (tried to) listen to 808s yesterday and while it may be in many ways the most influential rap album of the last decade what a fucking dismal slog that is to listen to now, especially as many of its stylistic autotune quirks are now lingua franca of the hip hop industry

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

yeah I was a huge Kanye stan for the first few albums but 808s is where he started to lose me. I've liked scattered songs/appearances since then but nothing more.

evol j, Friday, 9 December 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

I'm grateful to see people itt explain how I don't know what I like and also thanks for suggesting I have any sympathy for Kanye's public persona or the hyperbole surrounding MBDTF and anything Kanye-related

around here it seems like anyone who likes any post-808s Kanye is seen as a hype-dupe

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 9 December 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

ha, I've long thought I came off as a crusty old curmudgeon for feeling the opposite.

evol j, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

i loved 808s but despair at its influence via drake resulting in shit like gnash

maura, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

guess who just walked into trump tower

maura, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

pablo

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

Donald Trump?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

I hope kanye doesn't get a cabinet position. Not because he'd be worse than the clowns that Trump has already picked but because if kanye joined the administration I really wouldn't be able to keep defending him

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

There's a line. And that's the line.

Treeship, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

wow there's a line!

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

a solid blue baseball cap, backwards. there's a line.

tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

http://m.tmz.com/2016/12/13/donald-trump-kanye-west-trump-tower/

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link

red baseball caps have a history of being appropriated by douchebags

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link

does this mean he is performing at the inauguration ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

well, he didn't say no

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

I think at this point we can all agree that black dudes who aren't named Sisqo should stop bleaching their hair

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dTQSON9dSk

Treeship, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 03:32 (seven years ago) link

I think at this point we can all agree that black dudes who aren't named Sisqo should stop bleaching their hair

― ¶ (DJP), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:16 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's possible he's transitioning to be a Trump body double, in the vein of Saddam Hussein or Liberace

simply gabbing a wonderful christmastime (crüt), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 03:37 (seven years ago) link

the hair is fine. my issue is that it looks like trump is setting him up to be his new celebrity surrogate. (1:35 - an uncharacteristically warm trump says "you take care of yourself, i'll see you soon.")

Treeship, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 03:47 (seven years ago) link

I think at this point we can all agree that black dudes who aren't named Sisqo should stop bleaching their hair

― ¶ (DJP), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:16 PM (seven hours ago)

i appreciate the sisqo exception this dude was ok imo

k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 December 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link

kayne's the only celeb I can think of not already associated with the right wing who's voiced pro-Trump sentiments so of course Trump invited him over to discuss bleach problems

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

wish kanye would go full simon phoenix with this look

http://carboncostume.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/simonphoenix.jpg

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 14:06 (seven years ago) link

is bleached hair not common among black US sports stars?

ogmor, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link

or did dennis rodman ruin it for everyone else

ogmor, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link

It's not uncommon. Odell Beckham Jr. has bleached hair

altony rightano (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link

So I guess Donald Trump cares about black people?

Tuomas, Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link

Donald Trump cares about rich people.

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

tom

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

otm

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 December 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

otm

Killer Mike said in 2006, "George Bush don't care about poor people, black or white," and that was probably closer to the mark than Kanye's famous quote.

altony rightano (voodoo chili), Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

think this is some reddit project or something, can't find too much info on it , i quite like it tho

https://thepablocollective.bandcamp.com/releases

nxd, Wednesday, 1 February 2017 10:20 (seven years ago) link


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