So that's what I was doing wrong ;-)
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 January 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
TS: hitler a film from germany vs Berlin Alexanderplatz
Posted a poll.
Also forgot to say I got a lot of Citizen Kane vibes out of this, all good!
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 January 2015 12:33 (nine years ago) link
Fassbinder was virulently opposed to him
Syberberg that is, not Hitler (lol). Fassbinder thought he was just a rip off of Werner Schroeter I think?
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link
Well this film quite diff from any Schroeter film and also this one is very specifically about Wagner and his project. Schroeter I think engages a lot more widely with operas and arias and its roots in working class life.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 January 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
I suppose Syberberg's politics had something to do with it too.
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link
That, plus they are v different filmmakers.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 January 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
They shared some actors, or rather Fassbinder people acted in his films, Harry Baer was the lead in 'Ludwig'.
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link
(btw I've only seen Ludwig (but it was when I was school probably) and Parsifal.)
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link
Right, I hadn't noticed. Quite like to see Ludwig next, just to see how it compares with the Visconti film.
I also watched a part of Shoah at the weekend. In the intro to Hitler the circus master introduces the film with words to the effect that 'this is not a film about the war and the suffering and a body count that tends to operate' in these other wwii documentaries. You see his point when in Shoah Lanzmann keeps a close up to a crying jew that is recounting this awful episode.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 January 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link
Ludwig is my favorite of what I've seen (which includes Karl May and the first half of Hitler).
― Cherish, Thursday, 29 January 2015 00:23 (nine years ago) link