Is this anti-semitism?

i think the bigger problem w/ the unserious treatment of antisemitism in the mainstream is actually bc of how unique the prejudice is. bc it's about jewish power / conspiracies it's easy for ppl who exist within the discourse to think that jews are not disadvantaged, or that they're advantaged enough, or have too much power actually, etc, so that charges of antisemitism are easier to dismiss bc after all jews are doing okay so there must not be that much /real/ prejudice against them.

Yep, I think that's probably true.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/01/22/yarmulke-clad-swedish-gentile-reporter-attacked-in-malmo-video/

*hits buzzer* not antisemitism! wait, shit

the fuck is going on in argentina

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/23/rogue-agents-alberto-nisman-death_n_6532882.html

i suppose that might be a better post on MENA? idk, it's iran related (allegedly)

*hits buzzer* not antisemitism! wait, shit

this joke gets made a lot itt but afaik this is the only thread to discuss antisemitism as a general phenomenon

just riffing on his identification as "gentile" in the hed. of course it is.

the fuck is going on in argentina

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/23/rogue-agents-alberto-nisman-death_n_6532882.html

― goole, Friday, January 23, 2015 4:47 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seriously, wtf. that article gave me whiplash. all i know is it's going to make a great movie someday.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z120/j77gm/greenfields-00006_zps50497f1f.png

Standards for cartoonists' right to offend seem fluid.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.638240

shit rip that cartoonist eh

wow i can't believe that the private self-regulatory organization Australian Press Council mildly condemned a newspaper for breaching Standards of Practice. whatever happened to freedom of speech???

meanwhile how many articles have been written so far saying that no one should be massacred for drawing a cartoon but charlie hebdo was asking for it.

extraordinary misreading of howard jacobson imo

idk if you think i'm saying jacobson wrote one of those articles and obv he didn't, or you don't think he was responding to those sorts of articles (which is why I linked to him)

The "but" that was deemed so necessary after 9/11 - that great "but" from which all the lesser "buts" have sprung - was the "but" of extenuation. It was the first, grammatical step in shifting blame from perpetrator to victim. Not only on the back of that "but" was America reminded that others had suffered, that America was instrumental in that suffering, and that America could therefore be said to bear a share of responsibility for what happened, the "butters" finally came within a whisker of condoning the act of terrorism itself.

Standards for cartoonists' right to offend seem fluid.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.638240

― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Sunday, January 25, 2015 6:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Morbs, honestly, posting that in this thread is clear trolling. Do you go in the rolling race thread and complain about people being offended by caricatures of black people?

http://www.antisemitisme.fr/dl/2014-EN.pdf

In 2014, the number of Antisemitic acts recorded on French soil doubled. They increased to 851 versus 423 in 2013. This represents a jump of 101 percent.

In 2014, violent acts increased by 130 percent compared to 2013. There were 241 violent acts in 2014 versus 105 in 2013.

Antisemitism has become increasingly violent and hyper-violent. Today, Antisemitic threats in France include persistent bias, sectarian stereotypes, deep hatred, but especially Antisemitic jihadist terror. Men and young children are killed for the sole reason that they are Jewish.

51 percent of racist acts committed in France in 2014 targeted Jews. Jews represent less than one percent of the French population. Less than 1 percent of this country's citizens are the target of half of all racist acts committed in France.

The 30-percent increase in racist acts committed in France in 2014 compared to 2013 comprises exclusively an increase in Antisemitic acts. Indeed, racist acts, excluding Antisemitic acts, that were recorded in 2014 decreased by 5 percent compared to 2013. This shows once again how much we need tailored programs, adequate measures, and specific tools to fight Antisemitism efficiently. Many anti-Racism programs do not stop the rise Antisemitic acts, far from it.

Cities most impacted by Antisemitic acts in 2014 include Paris, Marseille, Lyon, Toulouse, Sarcelles, Strasbourg, Nice, Villeurbanne and Créteil.

61% of all violent racist attacks recorded in France, 241, were directed against Jews, who are less than 1% of France's population. By comparison, only 55 violent racist acts were anti-Muslim. This means that in France, a Jew is nearly 50 times as likely to be the victim of bias violence as a Muslim is.

if true, that's rather harrowing. i wonder about the methodologies; i'll have to look for closely.

/more/ closely

to the conversation about UK antisemitism:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2926724/I-m-going-Jew-bashing-teenage-thug-texted-friend-thugs-beat-Orthodox-Jewish-man-protest-against-conflict-Palestine.html

Born in Germany to a Turkish family, Can is well-known for his anti-Israel activism. According to Die Welt, Can was caught on tape at a Copenhagen protest shouting into a borrowed police megaphone, “Death to the Jews,” “Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas chamber.”

At his Essen hearing this winter Can was prosecuted for his use of the term “Zionist” as incitement against a minority.

During the hearing, Can claimed he was not an anti-Semite and had nothing against the Jewish people but only against the Zionist state. In response, Judge Sastry is quoted by Die Welt saying, “‘Zionist’ is the language of anti-Semites, the code for ‘Jew.'”

Sastry’s judgment, which does not form a binding precedent in German law, essentially semantically equates anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.

Can was sentenced to three months’ probation and a fine of 200 euros. He has until Friday to appeal.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/german-judge-rules-anti-zionism-is-code-for-anti-semitism/#ixzz3QbyVA29n

i don't totally understand why they needed to prosecute him based on the coded meaning of "zionist" when he said things like "death to the jews," maybe there was only recorded evidence for the former?

The former was also in Denmark which might have a bearing on whether it could be prosecuted in Germany.

Latter.

smart dude if the moment he crosses the border back into germany all the "jews" become "zionists."

ffs these guys are such assholes. some french ppl made fun of mohammed so how do we protest? obvs make fun of the jews
http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranians-to-host-holocaust-cartoon-contest/

A racist agitator has appalled members of Britain’s Jewish community by announcing plans for a march next month against “Jewification” in Stamford Hill, the centre of the ultra-orthodox Haredi population.

Joshua Bonehill, who describes himself as a “nationalist, fascist, theorist and supporter of white rights”, has called for a mass protest in the north London area “against the complete Jewification of the borough” and against the Shomrim, a neighbourhood watch group, that he claims wrongly is an illegal religious police force.

In February 2015, Bonehill was also charged in St Albans on allegations that he had written a hoax story on the website claiming that food from Tesco was infected with Ebola.[17]

Not expecting a big turnout for this tbh.

more like Bonehead

more bad news for french jewry
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2938009/Three-soldiers-anti-terror-patrol-Jewish-community-centre-Nice-France-stabbed.html

ummm

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/04/world/americas/argentina-prosecutor-alberto-nisman-arrest-warrant-cristina-de-kirchner.html

holy shit

Message on that Nice stabbing is pretty clear: don't protect Jews.

http://www.clarin.com/politica/Afiches-antisemitas-Villa_Crespo_0_1297070300.html

kirchner has always been a horrid piece of shit

so kirchner et al are basically arguing that the prosecutor was being fed stuff against them by rogue elements of the security services? weirdly, i can kind of imagine that happening.

what a mess.

"Underscoring the tension surrounding the death of Mr. Nisman, who was buried at a Jewish cemetery last week, anti-Semitic posters began appearing in central Buenos Aires this week. They read: 'The good Jew is the dead Jew. The good Jew is Nisman.'"

fuck these ppl

In a bitterly ironic reading, the poster is correct. He was a good Jew, and now he's dead.

Richard Cohen discovers that anti-semitism has something to do w/ Israel - tbh the guy is a tool but i had never seen these statistics before and found them really interesting:

In the United States, high levels of anti-Semitism in the Hispanic population dissipate with assimilation. The Anti-Defamation League tells us that, while 12 percent of all Americans are anti-Semites, the figure for foreign-born Hispanics is an astounding 36 percent. But for Hispanics born in the United States, the figure is only 14 percent. America is adept at assimilation. Europe is lousy at it. Europe needs work.

I wonder if that correlates to how old-school Catholic you are. I've heard similar figures for number of babies Latinos have in the US (high for immigrants, same as non-Latino for American born).

Israel’s occupation of the West Bank has always troubled me, but it is governed benevolently compared with the way China oppresses Tibet — and where are those demonstrations?

I always wonder whether people who write this actually don't know that lefties go to lots of demonstrations about how China oppresses Tibet. How many college students have you seen with "Free Tibet" shirts and how many have you seen with "Free Palestine" shirts? Young lefties freaking LOVE Tibet.

That said, Mordy, that article is perfectly fine but I think it says exactly the opposite of "Richard Cohen discovers that anti-semitism has something to do w/ Israel" -- I think Cohen comes down to saying that anti-Semitism found fertile ground in Christian and Muslim world before there was an Israel, still does now, and still would even if there were no Israel.

i was mainly referring to this: "The title of my recently published book is “Israel: Is It Good for the Jews?” When I started writing it, I did not know how I was going to answer that question. The more I delved into the subject, the more I read and did research, the more I concluded that the answer is yes. The recent events in Paris make me even surer." and then in conclusion, "That now seems underway and, sadly, makes my book title almost irrelevant. The question is not whether Israel is good for the Jews but whether it is necessary. That answer, increasingly, is yes."

like idk the naiveté that led to him not understanding the relationship between historical world antisemitism and the need for Israel to exist, that could only be pierced by his paying attention to a relatively minor example of antisemitism. maybe i'm being unfair and he's being disingenuous but it sounds like he's saying "i wasn't sure if israel was good but now after last couple weeks in france i think it's necessary," this is pretty much the thinking of a stupid person idk.

this article's comments section is a great example of the jewish version of lewis' law

it's kinda shocking/horrific tbh the stuff they allow ppl to post in their comments section at wapost.

"Stupid person": Mordy otm. Nearly every sentence of that article is a naive shambles. The whole thing reads like a 'my first antisemitism' piece. We need stronger, brighter advocates to tell the world that 1) anti-semitism is very real, and very much on the rise (in Europe at least it undeniably is), and 2) Israel is not, or should not, be just for Jews. The question whether a nation is "necessary" for people of a certain religion is dumb to begin with. No country should ever be solely necessary to harbour people of a certain faith.

lol i doubt mordy will find that post as otm as you did his

Your assessment strikes me as not entirely unlikely :) And yet.