ILX 70s album poll - results

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I'll have to do the top 5 tomorrow as the library kicks out in a minute.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

6

points: 810
1st place votes: 2
total votes: 25

JOY DIVISION - UNKNOWN PLEASURES

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Joy Division -- Unknown Pleasures.

I first heard "Unknown Pleasures" in 1992. It's still
the darkest record I own. The one that demands being
listened to with all the lights off. Even better, in
a cold basement. Curled up in a ball. Listening to
the soothing crackle of the needle on vinyl. Good
times. Lonely, troubling, but good nontheless. On
this album, "Interzone" is what passes for euphoria.
"She's Lost Control" is what passes for
dancefloor-filling mania. "New Dawn Fades" is pain.


"Unknown Pleasures" is therapy.

Barry Bruner

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

From this thread:

C/D: Eight-track alternate sequencing?

(as you'd expect, a few other albums on this list are discussed there too)

BLONDIE -- PARALLEL LINES

1 Hanging On The Telephone
Heart Of Glass
I'm Gonna Love You Too

2 Picture This
Fade Away And Radiate
Pretty Baby

3 I Know But I Don't Know
11:59
Will Anything Happen?

4 One Way Or Another
Sunday Girl
Just Go Away

This is also great! The proper track listing drags a bit in the middle during the "Fade Away and Radiate" ... "Will Anything Happen" section. But the eight-track version puts the Big Hits at the beginning and the end ("Heart Of Glass" works MUCH better at the start than tossed randomly into the middle of side two) and mixes things up a little better in the middle.

-- MindInRewind, October 7th, 2004 5:38 PM.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I absolutely love 'Just Go Away' and am horrified to see not one but two disses of it above. Weakest tracks for me is 'I Know But I Don't Know'. I'm never sure what I think about 'Fade Away And Radiate' either.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I never thought of either band as being particularly morbid, emotional etc., I just thought 'Unknown Pleasures' and 'In Utero' kicked fuckin' ass. Rawk on!

-- dave q (scrape10...), December 9th, 2001.

I was pretty histrionic back in the day:

i'll just say that maybe _unknown pleasures_ is a classic because it's a masterpiece, just maybe? maybe because stephen morris and peter hook formed rock's greatest rhythm section ever, able to define a song with startlingly fresh repeated lines that bled out of the most basic elements breathtaking possibilities? because crushing parallel-universe-metal riffs could be stripped, crystallized, and frozen to drip like icicles above? maybe because riffs could become drones and vice versa? maybe because of the sparsest, least pop tracks ("candidate," "i remember nothing") where a bare beat and atmospheric samples could house ian curtis's sighs and cries? because that band could bludgeon ("day of the lords"), rage ("shadowplay"), and caress ("insight")? just maybe ian curtis sang like no one else could, using a uniquely non-singerly voice to move from a purr to a sneer to a bellow?

-- sundar subramanian (ssubram...), May 17th, 2001.

In this month's Spin, Andrew Beaujon says of Unknown Pleasures: "If you've only heard 'Love Will Tear Us Apart', peep these Mancs on their sole proper album (?) for what they really were: an incompetent metal band that somehow touched the stars."

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

incompetent metal band is a praise. metal is per se incompetent. double negation = affirmation.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, Blondie was definitely the sleeper in this poll. I mean, I *like* Parallel Lines (didn't make my list though) but I had no idea it was THIS loved around here.

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

YAY for BLONDIE!!! I thought you all had forsaken it! My faith is ILM is restored. one of maybe four albums i can honestly say features no dull track.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Parallel Lines is good but #7? No dull tracks? Sure, it might not have any skippable tracks but Heart of Glass stands out leagues above the rest of the album to the point that it almost sounds like a different band.

So what happened? Did a lot of people rate Parallel Lines moderately high or did a few people put it as their #1?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

> Did a lot of people rate Parallel Lines moderately high or did a few people put it as their #1?

points: 775
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 25

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha ha, oops. I was distracted by all the pretty album covers and hadn't even noticed those numbers.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

(That Spin blurb was meant as praise if it wasn't clear. They listed the album as one of the essential 'mope rock' albums.)

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Gosh. We were different a few years ago, weren't we?

Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with Alex that the lack of The Dark Side Of the Moon seems a bit weird... I mean, I'm a techno/hip hop head myself, and even *I* think it's a good record. Just because prog got a bad reputation later on don't mean you should automatically dismiss *everything* it produced.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 07:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never heard Dark Side Of The Moon, so I couldn't really vote for it.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 April 2005 07:53 (nineteen years ago) link

5

points: 838
1st place votes: 2
total votes: 23

KRAFTWERK - TRANS-EUROPE EXPRESS

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:26 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm... was something wrong with that?

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Too big, probably.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link

IMG SRC DUDE

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:38 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm.... I'm getting this:

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I'm assuming there's a temporary problem with linking that way.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:43 (nineteen years ago) link

One last try, using the IMG SRC thing.

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah good. It's not the same without the sleeves...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:50 (nineteen years ago) link

it's a quite boring album, isn't it? i quite like it, but even people i know who swear by it admit that it's a bit dull, albeit in a good way (whatever that means).

Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link

rah!

"Trans-Europe Express", "Man Machine" and "Computer World" are all 5 star and the rest ain't too shabby either.

-- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), November 2nd, 2004.

Hmm... I'm struggling a bit to find blurbs. Perhaps its a mistake to attempt this before coffee.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:07 (nineteen years ago) link

4

points: 873
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 25

TELEVISON - MARQUEE MOON

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link

That was my number one! (sob)

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Ahh, Marquee Moon. Is there anything it can't do?

-- mark grout (mark.grou...), May 9th, 2004.

The original LP faded the track. The CD and the remaster let the track conclude to a brilliant ending, adding 2 mins onto the track.

Regards

-- mark grout (mark.grou...), May 9th, 2004.

Television's Marquee Moon influenced a lot of bangladeshis to move to Britain and thus changed English cuisine forever. In the same year, Verlaine also invented the sewing machine.
-- Pulpo (pulpopulpissim...), July 10th, 2002.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Err...Mark, what name did you send your ballot under??

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

My own, the google mail as shown here, to yours as shown there...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Poll abandoned. Start again.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Umm, I'm not bothered if my poll's been missed off on the albums vote, I don't think it would have made too much difference.

They were both (singles/albums) mailed on March 3rd.

Can my singles be included/checked though? I can resend...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Hang on...you sent it to elvistears, rather than ilx70s?

That might be the problem.. I set up ilx70s for the poll because I'm on the Avenue list at elvistears, and I never remember to read it and anything sent there disappears under a tonne of St Etienne rantings.

But I'll put the singles in, yes... its ilx70s@yahoo.co.uk

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Righto.. Commin to you...

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:57 (nineteen years ago) link

If you send the albums I can do a "what would have been" at the end of this, if you want.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link

THERE'S A RIOT GOIN ON ISN'T THAT GOOD DAMMIT

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Sly's biting his fingernails. 3? 2? 1? or number 101?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:34 (nineteen years ago) link

3

points: 884
1st place votes: 3
total votes: 21

BOB DYLAN - BLOOD ON THE TRACKS

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Is the cover usually that colour? I'm sure mine is far less red.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost: Recount! Recount!

(We've been here before with the 1000 UK Number Ones poll, when hobart's votes went missing...)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost: Recount! Recount!
(We've been here before with the 1000 UK Number Ones poll, when hobart's votes went missing...)

-- mike t-diva (mikejl...), April 28th, 2005.

Nooooooo!!!! I'm off the hook, as Mark DID NOT FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS!!
(phew....I did think I'd just missed your vote..)

But yes, I'll do the Grout 100 after this one. And the 101-200 of both.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Writing a blurb for "Blood On The Tracks" is a lot harder than I thought it would be. Though I love every track on this album, its hard to define it, somehow. Am I alone in thinking that although every track is a classic (I might be alone in thinking that, actually) it doesn't flow quite as it could? I mean, that doesn't really matter when you've got songs like this, but it makes writing impassioned bollocks about it just that little bit harder. Does someone else want to write something?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:04 (nineteen years ago) link

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=2043333

I always assumed it was a fictional narrative, which what I always thought all the songs on Blood on the Tracks bar 'Lily, Rosemary, and the Jack of Hearts' were, not knowing anything much biographical about Dylan. But basically: boy gets girl, boy and girl split up, they meet again, he decides he can't stay, and then remembering some time later boy decides to go look for girl again.
(all of Dylan's lyrics, by the way, are online at bobdylan.com, although I don't recommend looking at them without listening to the songs first, obviously. and: tangled up in blue.)

-- thom w. (thom...), March 30th, 2002.


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Dylan said somewhere that TUIB was his attempt to write a song that was like a painting - that wasn't tied to the flow of time..so the emotions and scenes in the song are all fractured and non-consecutive. Its one of the things I love about that song, and most of Blood on the Tracks. Idiot Wind is the same, you're never sure whether it's a historical or present-day song.
-- Mat O (winterland7...), March 31st, 2002.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I often think its the quieter tracks that make an album stand out. Its easy to love Tangled Up In Blue, or Idiot Wind, but its the likes of Meet Me In The Morning and If You See Her, Say Hello here that make it complete. There's the ranting of Idiot Wind, the cynicism of You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go and sprawling Western in Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts but inbetween, there are moments of recovery, quiet hope, and a sense that there's something still to come, that you can pull something back from all this.

I just said that the album doesn't flow. Looking at it again, that's almost certainly deliberate. The quiet moments follow the shouting, as the times spent sitting alone, regretting what you said, regretting what you didn't say and thinking "what the fuck do I do now?" follow the arguments in life. Maybe the difficulty in defining this album comes from the fact that there's no over-arching emotion to it, and the bitterness is tempered with never-give-up. I certainly need to listen again to be sure that I'm not talking crap.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyway, you don't want to hear my musings on that, you want to know what finished top...so...

2

points: 936
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 23

THE CLASH - LONDON CALLING

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Clash - London Calling

Nothing in the first two Clash albums could have prepared listeners
for the sprawling, omnivorous sound that makes up "London Calling."
Although there had been flirtations with reggae and R&B mannerisms in
the previous two records, the Clash go "all in" on this one and reveal
their entire record collections to everyone. You want rockabilly, New
Orleans funk, disco? It's all in here. But what is important to
point out is that the genre-hopping on "London Calling" never sounds
forced or self-indulgent, like it would on "Sandinista." Rather, the
Clash's way of paying tribute to their influences was the most
time-honored way—that is, drinking deeply from the variegated cup of
popular music and coming up with something uniquely their own.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago) link

well fuck.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i was sure that was down for the top spot.

Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean YAY #1 ELECTRIC WARRIOR

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link

1

points: 970
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 27

SLY AND THE FAMILY STONE - THERE'S A RIOT GOIN ON

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 11:29 (nineteen years ago) link


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