2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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Debate is on

Quelle surprise

whew good thing McCain took a timeout to save the economy. Glad that's all taken care of.

What's weird to me is that McCain KNEW Obama would nix the idea of cancelling the debates - so he knew he'd have to come do it tonight - so he knew he'd end up in this bad-optics-for-him situation of ASKING Obama for a favor and Obama saying NO - and McCain unable to do anything about it except do what Obama says! It paints McCain as weak, and Obama in the decision-maker's shoes. Yet they knew it would happen that way. I don't see the upside.

Plus here's McCain with a deal NOT struck.. turning up for a "campaign event"!

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2008/09/26/opinion/26suboped_ready.html

McCain is dumber than a bag of hammers

(sorry, I had to go there)

There's a line forming: my mom finally rang and said we're all jealous of Sarah Palin because she's so damned cute.

F(L)AIL

hahaha yay Stadler and Waldorf

There's a line forming: my mom finally rang and said we're all jealous of Sarah Palin because she's so damned cute.

waht

I mean, I am, but she's also incredibly dumb.

was that op-art brought to us by the newly-Muppets-pimping Disney Corporation, whose ABC Television Group got shut out of the debates this year?

Cute for (vice) president!

OMG how old do I feel? Chuck D looks like he's 15 there.

What's weird to me is that McCain KNEW Obama would nix the idea of cancelling the debates - so he knew he'd have to come do it tonight - so he knew he'd end up in this bad-optics-for-him situation of ASKING Obama for a favor and Obama saying NO - and McCain unable to do anything about it except do what Obama says! It paints McCain as weak, and Obama in the decision-maker's shoes. Yet they knew it would happen that way. I don't see the upside.

otm

I still have a weird faith in the GOP election machine though; I keep seeing McCain's campaign do fuckup after fuckup but I'm assuming it's part of some genius master plan that involves releasing Michelle Obama's "whitey" tape and capturing Osama days before the election. I mean, if they could run a successful second-term campaign for Bush they can do anything. But so far I have not seen it synthesize into anything but a series of mishaps.

machine is broken yo

If the economy melts down before November, the last thing "middle America" will care about is an old tape of Michelle Obama dressing as Angela Davis for a Halloween party.

http://www.monksmedia.com/NDP-Logo1.JPG

I love that they picked two photos where McCain/Palin look like deer in the headlights.

The main thing I've taken away from this election is that the Republicans seem hellbent on wresting the "Cutting Off Your Nose To Spite Your Face" trophy from the Democrats.

John, stop stealing Sarah's jackets, you choad:

http://bradley.chattablogs.com/dr.evil.jpg

It paints McCain as weak, and Obama in the decision-maker's shoes. Yet they knew it would happen that way. I don't see the upside.

I think it did accomplish the purpose of putting him in the spotlight and giving him the initiative. By holding the debate hostage, the focus was put on McCain's power to make a decision altering the dynamics of the race. On some level, it makes him seem more powerful, more active.

debate was never "held hostage" - it was going to go on without him and turn into a town hall PR event for Obama, basically.

A town hall event that few would have watched.

I think it did accomplish the purpose of putting him in the spotlight and giving him the initiative

and leaving him looking like an idiot, so far. I was unsure when this stunt started that it would end up this way, but so far, wow.

A town hall event that few would have watched.

what channel were they gonna turn to?

it made mccain look like a clown

lol every time i heard paulson say "700 billion dollars" i thought of this dude
http://bradley.chattablogs.com/dr.evil.jpg

Apparently Katie asked her, "what's the worst thing Dick Cheney did", and she answered "Shooting his friend with the gun".

this would be really funny if she were saying it to take the piss

HBO, TBS, CW, ESPN........

xpost to gneb

the debate was never really in danger of being cancelled -- mccain bluffed & got called on it

o nate I guess that's true. It shows McCain DOING something. Making a DECISION. (And knocks Rick Davis and the malfunctioning PalinBot out of the headlines.) And now McCain gets to reverse his decision! It's a McCain specialty! "You know, I was wrong to have asked for delaying the debate. I was wrong. What can I say? I spoke with my heart. That's some straight talk."

I kind of think McCain's move was a bit of genius. Without having to take a stand either way on a contentious piece of legislation, he was able to present himself as a decisive, pro-active figure and basically steal the spotlight for much of the week. So after a week in which economic crisis came to the fore, and against an opponent who generally is regarded as having the advantage on economic issues, he held his own in the polls and ends the week at a tie in the latest Gallup poll.

I don't think anybody who wasn't already schizoid and blessed against witchcraft bought that line of shit, nate.

McCain's move is genius only as far as the general American populace is willing to be completely braindead stupid.

...Oh shit.

Thank god Bono is here to unite us all:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/26/bono.qanda/index.html

Bono now looks like some Camp Pendleton dude

hahaha I was going to link that

BONO: We got good news this week. I know normally I'm on your program with bad news -- the whingeing rock star -- but it's great. There's a disease, malaria -- it's 3,000 African kids die every day of mosquito bites. Sounds mad, but it's true.

WAHT NO WAI

Sorry, but that's not Bono: that's a piece of chorizo left in the sun.

I guess the news that Bill Gates donated millions (or billions?) to help fight malaria this week was buried, but Gates is always throwing money against awful diseases, so we're desensitized to megamilz mogul charity at this point.

I kind of think McCain's move was a bit of genius. Without having to take a stand either way on a contentious piece of legislation, he was able to present himself as a decisive, pro-active figure and basically steal the spotlight for much of the week. So after a week in which economic crisis came to the fore, and against an opponent who generally is regarded as having the advantage on economic issues, he held his own in the polls and ends the week at a tie in the latest Gallup poll.

― o. nate, Friday, September 26, 2008 11:01 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wow dude come on

the only good thing that mccain managed out of this fiasco was lowering the bar for his performance tonite lower than anyone thought possible. his best game right now is in the fact that everyone is basically expecting him to implode

McCain definitely helped recharge David Letterman's economy for the short term.

o nate stfu

McCain did manage to briefly distract attention from Rick Davis (and Palin's awful Katie Couric performance.) That's some kind of accomplishment, I guess.

The night of the VP debate I'll be at My Bloody Valentine. I think they should do a live soundtrack.